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<0> meh, thanks to IE being ****ty, xhr is one of the few places I tolerate innerHTML
<1> IE is not on the cutting edge Firefox is , but I wish firefox would get even closer to the edge.
<2> i wish it'd fix memory leaks
<2> i've had it reach over 600mb of ram
<1> I have been working with the embedded mozilla widget in gtk very cool you can make your own kiosk browser. nice so far.
<1> and not too hard to get the basics up and going.
<1> and works with all the plugins that I have worked with so far.
<2> there's always xulrunner too
<1> I have not gotten to work with that yet
<2> it's not bad
<2> firefox without any gui
<3> speaking of which...
<3> anyone know of a method to develop one xml based source tree for plugins and have it work in IE and Firefox?
<3> translate the xml/js to XUL and <language X>?
<3> maybe an activex xul wrapper?
<3> BHO xul intepreter?
<3> BHO lua interpreter?
<4> var a = document.getElementById( 'checkbox_retrive' ).checked == true ? 1 : 0; isnt this the right way to set a var 1 if checked, else 0 ?
<5> Jippi: you don't need the == true
<4> Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Index or size is negative or greater than the allowed amount" code: "1" nsresult: "0x80530001 (NS_ERROR_DOM_INDEX_SIZE_ERR)" location: "http://back/security/groups/manage/1/ Line: 59"]
<4> is what ff gives me :|
<4> ah, nm
<2> :/
<6> does IE finally have a working DOM api?
<6> especially importNode and stuff?
<7> whats the best way to embed javascript in a page to execute ASAP, without using the body:onload event handler?
<7> I wish each element had an onload or ondisplay event handler or somethin
<6> no event handlker
<6> just plain
<8> zardinuk: any code outside of a function will be executed as soon as it is read
<8> but you won't be able to access the DOM until the page has rendered
<8> so using onload is the best option - that's why the event is there
<6> nobody here using IE 7? ;>
<7> GarethAdams: i suppose I can attach the onload handler from anywhere in the page, right?
<6> yes
<6> document.onload=myfunc;
<8> zardinuk: better is to add an event listener
<8> otherwise, you'll end up completely replacing an existing onload
<7> it's to pre-load an image, is there a better way? I'm thinking just embedding the image at the bottom of the page with width 1 or something
<8> for a mouseover or something?
<7> yep
<7> I'm just re-formatting the imageready output
<8> use CSS
<7> use CSS?
<7> don't pre-load?
<8> 1 sec
<8> there's a very neat trick
<8> you make your image a background to the element you're putting the image in. Except, you make the background twice as big - with the hover and normal states both in the same image
<8> but, you set the size of the element to only show half of the combined image
<7> that's a neat trick
<7> then align top or bottom?
<8> then, using CSS, you change the background-position on :hover to show the other half
<8> http://www.alistapart.com/articles/sprites
<7> that's neat but it's too bad imageready can't automatically do that for me, seems like a headache for this navigation menu, I'm always updating
<2> ick
<2> http://www.alistapart.com/d/sprites/ala-blobs3.html
<2> doesnt look so good in safari
<8> Ratty_: it's not meant to
<8> keep reading til the next example
<2> oh
<2> i just clicked randomly
<2> http://www.alistapart.com/d/sprites/ala-blobs2.html
<2> ah yeah
<8> http://www.alistapart.com/d/sprites/ala-blobs2.html
<8> yeh
<7> you can ***ign a background-image to IMG tags, I wonder if that will be sufficient pre-loading
<7> just set background-image to the over state
<9> sup sup
<8> you shouldn't use <img> tags in nav menus anyway
<8> backgrounds on <a> tags are the most semantic way
<10> hi, I was wondering why my close browser button won't work... I used onClick='window.close()' as my code.. anyone got clues to why it doesn't close?
<2> you can only close windows that were opened with javascript
<10> Ratty_: Thank you for your response, is there a way I can close a window that isn't opened by a javascript?
<2> click the x
<10> Ratty_: no other method?
<2> it's a security thing
<2> so nope
<10> icic
<10> can I make a javascript that will change to another page and then use window.close?
<10> would that work?
<11> nope - if you didn't open it, you can't close it
<12> hi
<12> does someone know the command to draw lines and boxes with javascript ?
<0> lines and boxes? no such thing
<12> yes
<0> you either need MS VML or standard SVG
<12> ??
<11> or Canvas
<12> i just want to make a simple color select box (in a small popup)
<12> so the user can select a color for text
<11> define: create elements using the Document Object Model and style them appropriately
<12> insin: so i there are no graphic functions in javascript at all ??
<12> i know dom a bit ... but how to draw over dom ?
<12> the only thing i can do is with css.. (because i just need boxes with different colors)
<11> not in a cross browser fashion - don't think of it as drawing, think of it in terms of a web page - create elements with DOM and lay them out with CSS
<12> so javascript does not supports any drawing
<12> (lines boxes ..)
<3> chck out zorn
<3> googe zorn vector javascript
<12> insin: so when creating a popup window ... how to place some content in it ?
<13> define: much in the same way bitmap editors dont support html, css and JS
<12> bewest: that needs an plugin ?
<3> no
<13> nope
<3> just javascript
<3> also check out dhtml slants
<0> bewest: is that that disgusting thing that uses piles and piles of absolute divs with borders to simulate line-drawing?
<12> bewest: how can they draw ?
<13> heh
<3> frb-work: probably :-)
<3> define: I don't know
<3> piles and piles of small absolutely positioned divs
<12> lol
<3> most likely
<13> yeah, it does
<3> use canvas
<11> var yourWindow = window.open(...); and use yourWindow.document the same way you would use document in any other window
<3> or something simlar
<12> ok.. so the only question that remains is how to print a few <div id="color0"></div> in a popup window ??
<11> for what you want, you really don't need to draw things - just create a web page on the fly
<11> var d = yourWindow.document.createElement("div"); d.style.color = "#f00"; yourWindow.document.appendChild(d);
<12> insin: THANKS
<3> what are you needing to draw anyway?
<3> I don't get it
<3> if you want charts, there are way to do that
<11> have you tried googling for "javascript colour picker"? there are tons of them
<12> bewest: i just need a color picker (a popup window where i see many small boxes with different colors)
<3> ah
<12> bewest: where the user can choose a color
<3> I disagree with the new window bit, but I might just be contrarian
<3> go to http://amazon.com/ and mouse over the middle tab at the top
<12> bewest: that shows me a window for a short time
<12> bewest: how do they do this ?
<3> magic :-)
<3> a short time?
<12> :b
<3> and it's not a window
<3> it's more of a lightbox
<3> also see
<12> as long as i don't remove the mouse
<3> http://particletree.com/features/lightbox-gone-wild/
<14> is b0at still mia ?
<14> can i do "if((x-=1)<=0){return false;}" ?
<3> what would that do?
<3> do you mean if( x != -1) ?
<3> or
<3> if (x-- < 1) ?
<12> increment x by one and then test if it is smaller or equal zero
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