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<0> I've got a few bugs still in from recent changes <0> I want to squit those before I go any further <1> Ah, right <1> See, this is what I *should* do with code. :-p <0> At least, going by the css errors pouring into the js console I have. <0> So I'd better fixem. <1> Owch. <0> Mostly it'll just be a bit of bounds checking. <0> Calculating things based on nonexistent values, etc. <2> how to output text to the javascript console ? <2> so i don't have to use the alert all the time <0> The major insertion for tonight was optional scrollbars, so you can set them to "auto" "always" or "never" and get reasonable results. <0> defbyte, where are you from? <1> defbyte: http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/webdevel.html might help you. <3> if a form object as the same name as another does it make a list when p***ed to the js function
<1> antihc3: Hm, good question. TIAS. <0> who, clock has a fun bug now <3> looks like yep it is a array <0> Anyway, gotta sleep <0> nini all <1> Jan-: G'night! <4> does anyone know how to submit patches to prototype? i can't see anything on the website <5> ~prototype <5> that was worth a try <5> do we have a bot in here? <4> Logi: oh, there is #prototype <4> :) <5> s/hist/his/ <5> dools: could you give me a link to the prototype project? I don't have enough context to construct a useful google query <5> ah, got it <1> Logi: Search "bloat." <1> :-) <5> heh <5> well, one project's bloat is another's essential infrastructure <6> Hey Woosta :) <2> i'm new to webdevelopment <2> so please don't blame me if i don't know basic stuff sometime <2> Twey_: the link does not exist <2> sry.. my fail... i can't copy/paste at the moment <2> this i know allready >http://www.squarefree.com/jsenv/< <2> but i do't like to copy paste all the time <2> it's nicer to change the real source and debug with console.log(msg) of firebug <2> ^^ this i found a few minutes ago <5> there is also an Execute JS extension for FireFox which allows you to enter aritrary javascript code to run <5> arbitrary* <2> what scripts are you guys using to make the source unreadable ? <2> no encyption, only subsitute variable and functions names with random stuff <5> obfuscation <5> ...is the name of the procedure <7> js <7> simple man, just garble it up <5> Ive been doing javascript for ~4 hours and havent obfuscated anything <7> then degarble it <5> I've* <2> no need to degarble, i just remove all spaces and substitude all variables and functions with other names so the meaning of the code is not easy to get <2> i think all other mehtodes are useless <8> hi <8> is there such a thing as while(...) { ... } continue { ...} in js? <5> janhaa: yes <5> janhaa: isn't that the sort of thing you'd look up in your javascript book/tutorial? <8> Logi, how does it look like in js? <8> Logi, i have neither :P <5> janhaa: exactly like in Java <5> janhaa: get one <8> i don't know java. <5> janhaa: you'll just waste your own time and everyone elses <5> janhaa: well, I could recommend a good java tutorial where you can read all about it :) <8> it's a quite easy question to answer really :P <5> can anyone recommend a JS tutorial? <5> janhaa: yeah.. the answer is essentially "rtfm" <8> Logi, it feels like i'm in ##linux :P
<5> janhaa: I wish I could recommend you a tutorial, but I can't. I've only been on javascript myself for about 4 hours <5> janhaa: but... I got a book and am not wasting everyone's time <8> http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Core_JavaScript_1.5_Guide:Loop_Statements # i couldn't find anything about it here... <5> janhaa: you mean apart from the "continue Statement" link at the bottom of that page? <8> Logi, that's not what i asked for. <8> while(...) { ... } continue { ...} is not the same as while(...) { ... continue ... } <5> ok, fair enough <5> then no, it doesn't have that akaics <5> afaics <5> what would you want that form of continue to do? <8> Logi, in perl it will do what inside the continue block, regardless if you use break or continue inside the while block. <8> that means if you want something to be done at the end of each iteration, you can put that inside the contiue block. <5> ah <5> that doesn't seem to be available <8> Logi, so how come i answered your question at once, while you didn't want to answer mine? <5> the Rhino book doesn't mention it and it's not C/C++/Java-like syntax <5> janhaa: because you had an rtfm question? <5> I'd have gladly p***ed you my book, but it doesn't travel well over my wireless link <7> the fact that you said "an" before rtfm indicates that you actually refer to acronyms by their letters... which leads me to believe you probably use terms like "s-t-f-u" in real life <7> faggot <8> Logi, i don't want to argue. i just want you to think about it twice :( <5> janhaa: don't worry. I won't <7> dont worry janhaa <8> it => my latter question. <7> i got this clown <5> the-drew: what? does myt faggotry interest you in some way you don't quite understand? <8> the-drew, i'm guessing Logi haven't had much help growing up :( <7> i think his uncle helped him become familiar with his naughty parts <8> poor Logi :/ <5> just possibly I've had too many lazy n00bs around for the last 10 years <4> Logi: i wouldn't bother listening to the-drew. he's a foul mouthed, demented and ***ually depraved pervert. <8> Logi, so you'll rather waste energy on answering "rtfm" ? why not just shut up instead? <5> janhaa: actually, what I was trying to do was find a good fm to refer you to <8> but Logi, the fm wouldn't answer my question, since it doesn't exist :( <8> the answer doesn't exist :P <5> I suppose that means you don't take "no" for an answer :^) <5> but for future reference, can anyone recommend a good on-line tutorial or reference for this sort of thing? <8> i do from people (most of the time), but not from a book. <8> Logi, i like mozilla's documentation... <5> it does look reasonable <8> at least the dom-ref is excellent <5> but you don't seem to trust it, so I wondered <8> i do trust the information that _is_ there. but i'm asking about everything else, i can't find the answer to. <5> anyway, I was planning to get through the Core section today and you're keeping me from it :) <5> 6 pages to go and I'm supposed to be at the pool in another 7 hours <8> actually, you're keeping yourself here :P <5> ssshhhh..... <8> anyway, i will stop keeping myself here. going to get some sleep :/ <5> 'night <8> take care and please answer simple questions like i just asked next time :( <5> hanging around on irc and answering simple questions is... unrewarding <8> i don't think so... but i've only done it for five years now. <5> well, the next 5 are more annoying <8> the thing is that i help people in some channels, while others help me in other channels... <8> it's called "sharing information" :) <5> and the most valuable information is where to find information <5> for which I thank you, incidentally :) <8> not allways. depends on the question and the time available. <8> hmfr... ****s commiting files to svn, and forgetting one :P <5> yes <5> even more so if you do it on Friday and have a group of angry developers waiting for you when you show up late on Monday <8> ;) <5> not... that this has ever... happened to me... <8> i'm the only one developing...unfortunately :/ <5> we're 3 on a 15 man project <8> hehe. i'm one one a ... uhm ... not sure project :P <5> anybody know about 12 java and/or javascript developers who want a job and don't mind rain, wind and darkness? <8> depends. is it less rewarding than answering "many lazy n00bs" ? <5> hardly <8> hm... can i see? <5> http://www.zignal.tv/ <5> marketing fluff <8> ok...
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