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<0> afief: I'm currently occupied otherwise, you'll have to ask someone else
<1> afief: have you done it ?
<2> Hey all
<2> Who wants to see the Gnome/Gimp siggraph banner?
<2> http://www.eyakae.com/IMG_0247.JPG
<2> http://www.eyakae.com/IMG_0248.JPG
<3> Looks quite good:D
<3> too big for me to view fully detailed
<4> there is a / missing at the end of the urls :(
<2> picky picky
<2> blame jimmac
<4> ShortWave: pedantic even ;)
<4> but the design is quite good
<2> You were complaining?
<2> heh



<2> hehehehe
<2> Yeah, Jimmac did a good job
<2> here's the blender one
<2> http://www.eyakae.com/IMG_0244.JPG
<2> http://www.eyakae.com/IMG_0246.JPG and the Aqsis/Inkscape one
<5> hey, those are really slick
<5> I can't tell by the photo...is that a matte stock?
<2> canvas, yeah
<5> ah, ok
<2> welp I'm out
<2> just thought I'd share, since that's what's representing you! :)
<3> Could someone help me write a script that opens a PNG, turns it to grayscale and saves it as an EPS?
<1> afief: i've made it work ;)
<3> neat:D
<1> afief: try to get http://www.le-radar.com/articles/gimp/download/R2Gray.tar.bz2
<1> untar it in your ~/.gimp-2.2/plug-ins directory and launch Gimp
<1> You'll get a new menu in Toolbox/Xtns/Recrusives/R2gray
<1> just tell in whiwch dir your pictures are, and it will change all of them
<3> damn... gave me an error "post script save cannot handle images with alpha channels"
<1> afief: let me try, brb
<3> pygmee: actually i don't need alpha channels but somehow they got saved when i exported from inkscape
<1> afief: so you just have to ignore the message. Transparency will be turn to white.
<1> i think this is an eps miss.
<1> in fact eps is a quite old format
<3> actually it doesn't. it opens the file but doesn't even start saving
<3> well, i need a freehand compactible format for the guy who's gonna print this stuff :(
<3> tif is mac/freehand compactible right?:D it did work for that format
<3> but gosh.... a 2 MB png turns into a 8.2 MB tif
<1> tif with transparency ?
<3> there was no transparancy in the original pictures, the alpha channel was set to FF
<1> afief: isn't png compatible with freehand. I know that PNG was the default format for many Macromedia's app (dreamweaver, Fireworks...)
<3> pygmee: i don't know for sure... i didn't see it in the import list
<3> pygmee: maybe it's just that way for macintosh... but i'm not sure
<5> PNG should be compatible with Freehand...it's Fireworks' native format
<1> MarcC: that's what i thought
<3> well guys, i don't have a macintosh here, and freehand doesn't support my native language(hebrew) without a patch, so i prefer using inkscape and converting
<3> it works perfectly fine on my linux laptop without the need for 4 GB ram they put in the G5 today
<1> ;)
<1> so finally, did the script work ?
<3> pygmee: the script works perfectly for tif, thanks a million
<3> i'm off to bed, it's 2AM here
<6> i just installed this script-fu: http://adrian.gimp.org/scripts/select_to_image.scm but i don't see it listed in the script-fu menu
<6> however, if i bring up the script-fu console, and click "browse" i can find it listed there
<6> why would it register yet not be listed in the script-fu menu?
<7> problem with compiling gimp2.23 packageconfig
<7> missing gimp 2.0.pc
<8> for some reason i can't get Gimp to load a file.. when i try i get '(script-fu:3835): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: script-fu: wire_read(): error'
<8> it's really annoying..
<9> how can I draw a triangle in a picture, and then cut that triangle out?
<10> using a path probably
<10> the path to selection, and cut it
<9> click on path,
<9> polygonal
<9> then ctrl-x after I have created the triangle
<9> cool thanks
<10> I never used the path tool myself, sorry for being so vague
<9> no problem
<9> after I am done with the path tool
<9> there is still the polygonw
<9> with the flashing dotted border
<9> how do I make that go away



<9> so I can start making an entirely new path?
<10> switch tools?
<10> or do you mean the selection? then just select->none
<9> cool
<9> select none
<9> that did it
<9> thanks
<9> I accidently deleted the tool options window from the window that says "the gimp"
<9> how can I get the tool options window to appear there again?
<10> simple
<9> praytell :)
<10> click on the little arrow in the top right corner of that area
<10> and select 'add tab;
<10> and from the list select tool options
<11> i'd like to make a watermark... and i see some examples online; it seems easy enough and i'm pretty sure i can do it. i'm wondering how easy is it to remove a watermark?
<11> is there a way to convolve the image somehow and remove the watermark?
<11> oh.. and i'm using convolve loosely.. as i only understand what it means very loosely
<10> mindwarpd: the whole idea behind watermarks is to make them as hard to remove as possible
<10> mindwarpd: it's practically impossible to remove a good watermark without re-creating this part of picture (i.e. painting it by hand)
<11> okay... that's what i wanted to hear... i guess i knew it was a obvious answer
<12> that's pretty much the definition of a watermark ^_^
<10> but the 'goodness' of a watermark depends on many factors
<12> yeah the watermark could be textured
<12> to increase randomness
<11> okay; that's cool.. is there a watermark that is uncrackable at the moment?
<11> aah neat :)
<10> everything is crackable :)
<12> it's not hard to make a watermark that's not worth removing
<10> it's q uestion of resources and time spent
<12> when you say 'crack', you're talking about a file format watermark
<12> but you were originally talking about a visual watermark
<10> dtm: well, you could probably write some sophisticated algorithms for removing visual watermarks -- comparing lots of images with the watermark, finding the common parts and applying some sort of reverse transformation
<12> :-o
<13> is that called a 'convolution' ?
<12> the mind boggles at trying to imagine a legitimate use for such an application
<10> dtm: not that I have ever seen anything like that :)
<10> dtm: well, there are those apps for removing 'mosaic' censorship -- any idea for a legitimate use for them? :P
<12> TheSheep: what's that?!
<10> dtm: well, certain filters that are used to 'censor' some photos and moves are 'reversible'
<10> dtm: sometimes you need a p***word for that, sometimes not
<10> dtm: there are applications that can reverse the mosaic and turn it into normal photo/movie, removing the censorship
<12> :-o
<10> of course you can't do that with just any 'mosaic'
<12> whaaaaa
<10> most of them are lossy
<12> what format is this
<12> yeah like any codec i've ever heard of
<10> I can't remember, i was good old days at alt.binaries newsgroups, heh :)
<12> i mean, irreversable one-layer encoding anyway
<12> :-o
<12> who would have censored them?
<10> dtm: there were very strict censorship laws in Japan
<10> dtm: you could go to jail for distributing uncesored material
<12> lol.
<12> oh yeah.
<12> fired.
<10> dtm: but if you distributed it censored 'in reversible way', then everyobody was happy
<12> lol.
<10> well, some people used the 'p***word-encoded' mosaic to force you to visit their site to get the pasword
<10> and possibli click on some banners
<10> you know, the good ol porn biz
<12> noted.
<9> i hit a key by accident, so when I do ctrl x, it paste black instead of white
<9> how do I change it back to white
<12> maybe undo?
<9> dtm that will change the picture
<10> what's ctrl+x ?
<9> but the setting on the tool is off
<9> ctrl+x is cut
<9> edit cut
<10> martianlobster: ah, set your background color to white
<10> martianlobster: when you cut, the area is made transparent if the layer has transparency, or filled with background color otherwise
<10> martianlobster: you probably pressed 'x', that swaps the foreground and background colors
<9> TheSheep: ok thanks


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