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<0> I need to save image as 4bpp PNG. After changing mode to 16-color indexed some images are saves as 4bpp some are saved as 8bpp. I even tried to reduce number of colors but some images are still saved as 8bpp. How do I force Gimp to save image as 4bpp?
<0> *tried to reduce number of colors to 2...
<0> is it doable at all or should I use some other program to reduce palette size?
<0> any better ideas?
<1> hello again!
<1> I have a problem : for my website I need picture with transparency, if I use .png the quality is very good but I just the transparency with Mozilla and not with IE... if I use gif, I have the transparency with both but the quality of the picture is not good at all (I use white gradation!!!), how can I do? is it possible to have the transparency with jpeg?
<0> no, jpegs can't do transparency
<0> briceg: try to use dithering when saving as gif
<1> hi gilead :-) OK I try!
<2> briceg: there is a way to display png files with transparency in msie, but it's hackish
<1> But I can't oblige all the visitors to hack their IE :-)
<2> briceg: no, it involves hacking your html
<2> briceg: not ie
<1> OK, with Javascript?
<2> actually, the fact that msie CAN display transparecy in png, but requires special syntax for that tells something about msie ;)
<1> and which syntax?
<2> http://koivi.com/ie-png-transparency/
<1> I'm going...
<1> OK, I've also found another solution : http://forum.myphphost.net/viewtopic.php?pid=393
<1> what do you think about the Javascript solution?
<2> well, if someone uses msie, he'll have all default settings, including js on, so I guess it's ok
<2> besides, it's not that the pages becomes unreadable without js -- only UGLY
<3> Hola.
<4> is there an effect like Color Balance oO
<5> Yes.
<5> It's called Color Balance.
<5> Under Colors, I think.
<6> hi
<6> how can i take a screenshot on gimp?
<7> how do I draw a circle?
<4> oO
<4> use e the cicle tool
<7> i can't find it
<4> top left the second
<7> "select elliptical region" ?
<4> i only have the german translation ;)
<7> it lets me select a circle - is there something like "draw around selection" ?
<4> jop
<8> what do you want to do with the circle?
<7> I want to draw a circle around something
<8> perhapt inkscape is easier if you don t wand to work with fine photo effects
<7> like this, only nice round circles, not funny blobs
<7> http://dev.personnelware.com/carl/temp/Jul25/a/yateclient1.png
<5> CarlFK: Circle Selection > Select > Stroke
<5> Gah, I mean Select > Border
<5> And fill that.
<7> thanks
<7> i'm surprised there isn't simple 'draw a shape' option
<9> I'm surprised to see people looking for a vector option in a bitmap app.
<10> what about gfig?
<7> what is gfig?
<9> CarlFK: filters->render->gfig
<7> is is disabled (gray)
<10> whis OS?
<7> linux
<10> hmm...
<7> gimp 2.2.11
<10> is your image in rgb mode?
<7> um... title says (indexed, 1 layer)
<9> CarlFK: image->mode->rgb
<10> ah :-) most filters/plugin can only be used in rgb (some also in greyscale) mode
<7> ok, this is 'better' :)
<7> i guess I can't zoom the gfix 'canvas'
<10> yep. it's only a simple plugin instead of a complete vector graphics plugin... If you need something more complicated, why don't you try out another program, like inkscape?
<7> "why?" ... all I can think of is "because I didn't think drawing a circle was complicated" especially given that I can select a circle
<10> ah, ok. I thought that if you want to zoom in, this must be something complicated..
<11> if you can select it, then stroking shouldn't be complicated
<9> CarlFK: you are aware that you can stroke a selection, aren't you?
<7> well, not sure what that means, so no :)
<9> make a selection, and use edit->stroke selection
<7> nope - didn't know about that either
<9> maybe you chould spend some time reading the basic documentation
<7> maybe
<11> or least least browsing the menus
<11> this is what I do when I encounter a new application, btw
<11> have a look at its menus, the "hm, what could this option do... ah!" effect and such :)
<7> I did dig around, but I was looking for something more straight forward
<9> yep, "stroke selection" isn't really straightfoward when someone wants to stroke a selection.
<11> of course, doing application integration as a main job probably results in a different approach ;)
<7> still surprised an app with as many options and power and age as gimp doesn't have a simple "draw circle"
<9> CarlFK: it doesn't contain a spreadcheat either.
<7> well, it does contain 2 ways to do what I want
<7> as far as I can tell, there are no ways to do a spreadsheet
<9> CarlFK: drawing a circle is a basic operation for a vector app, whic hgimp isn't. drawing a circle with gimp is a two click process.
<11> CarlFK: that'sd probably because many people consider the select + stroke to be this simple draw circle (or ellipse or rectangle or other weirds shape)
<7> what 2 clicks?
<9> one click for the selection, another to select the right menu entry
<7> 1 select, 2 Edit, 3, stroke selectk,n 4 ok
<7> I'll admit I have never done any studies on how often people want to do this
<7> It is probably top of the list of things I do because I markup screen shots quite a bit, which is probably not what most people do
<9> thne you really should use inkscape, not gimp
<7> maybe - even at 4 clicks I'm guessing it will be easier to keep using gimp than start using a new app
<7> it is 4, not 2, right?
<9> you can do it with 2
<9> by using the keyboard
<7> 2 mouse + 2 keypress?
<11> 1 mouse and 2 keys
<7> hmm, I can do 1 mouse and 3 keys: mouse to select, alt e, s, alt s
<7> or better: alt e, s enter
<12> hello *
<13> hi
<14> hi!
<12> is there an equivalent to Photoshop's edit->transform->distort ?
<14> would you have a suggestion of a program to manipulate ppm image files on windows (the gimp seems to freeze)
<15> jhfghd: yeah, fixing your gimp.
<11> jhfghd: netpbm, probably
<14> schumaml: I would like to have an image editor if possible
<14> dtm: how do you fix it? it's not on my computer but on a client's
<15> jhfghd: well i suppose reinstall and/or upgrade it
<12> jhfghd, 1st make sure you have the latest and greatest ?
<15> i mean, do something to troubleshoot it.
<15> "doesnt work" is meaningless
<14> dtm: i'm so happy, troubleshooting by phone
<15> :-.
<12> dtm: "seems to freeze" is meaningful enough for me...
<14> ok ok freezes
<15> wildman: sorry other people don't have psychic powers. good luck with all that, then.
<12> jhfghd, maybe those PPM images are big and your client's system is just out of RAM?
<12> dtm, neither do I ;)
<15> wildman: well then your statement is false
<15> jhfghd: what *exactly* are they doing? recreate the situation, step by step with them
<14> "your statement is false" => that's philosophy
<15> "seems" is irrelevant... does it or does it not freeze
<15> jhfghd: no, it's logic
<14> is it a sophism?
<15> unless the implied end of his ellipses was "meaningful enough for me...to want to ignore his request"
<14> don't try, do or do not
<15> ^_^
<11> hm.... 3 megapixel ppm loads just fine here
<15> hooray, schumaml has established that there is no psychic alien malevolent force that's causing every copy of gimp in the world to suddenly break!
<14> i'll update the client's brain
<11> 512 MiB of RAM and gimp may use up to 400 of it before having to swap out tiles to the disk
<12> anyone knows about the transform->distort thing above? (GIMP's equivalent, or another way to do the same) to Photshop's distortion transformations
<14> shwwwweeet !
<14> wildman: what do you want to do?
<14> describe
<11> wildman: how do they work?
<12> jhfghd, trying to adapt an OOB tutorial to GIMP
<12> schumaml, you get handles to the 'selection' which you can move freely to distort the image, making it not rectangular, for example
<14> right click on image -> filters -> distorts, there are several distortion there
<14> try this
<12> schumaml, think on grabbing one of the rectangle's corner and pulling it up and the rest of the rectangle following... into a non-rectangle shape
<11> the free transform tool does rectangle -> quadrilateral
<12> jhfghd, I don't want to use a filter
<12> schumaml, ah... checking...
<12> gimp 2.2 here BTW :)
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