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<0> np, jedihe, and propably TheSheep_ has given the better site
<1> what else can i do to lower filesize?
<2> fontpp: lower the resolution, lower bit depth or higher compression ratio.
<0> fontpp: you _could_ reduce the number of colors, e.g., but it depends on your image and plans if that's an option
<1> where could i change the resolution ?
<0> image -> scale image
<2> fontpp: to expand rubikcube's comment: you could for example have a palette of 16 million colors available for your image, when in reality it doesn't use more than 150 colors. in that case, lowering the bit depth from 24bit to 8 bit would help you save a lot of space. (16 bits per pixel, to be precise)
<3> rubikcube, TheSheep_, thanks guys... see U!!!
<0> np
<0> wow, not a single question for 2 hours, and then three at a time :-)
<2> rubikcube: IRC magic.
<2> My problem is still unsolved, if you want to crack your brain you're welcome to do it :)
<0> redondos: just downloaded netpbm on this machine to reproduce your problem...
<2> rubikcube: I'm glad you're up to that :)
<0> np
<2> rubikcube: You can, of course, have the images that produce the problem if you want to.
<0> redondos: maybe in 5 minutes, I'll first try and see myself. but thx
<0> redondos: ok, I think I reproduced your error
<2> rubikcube: Were you able to fix it?
<0> did you check the last png saving dialog option? translated from german it would be something like "save transparency colors"
<2> Yes.
<0> because that made the difference for me
<0> redondos: could you show your image then please?
<2> Which options did you check in that dialog?
<2> rubikcube: http://twat.com.ar/images/FS/fiber****_logo2.png
<0> redondos: ok, I finally managed it to show just blanks, but are you sure that that is a "real" transparency? how would a transparent ascii-pixel look like?
<0> what would be the difference between a white and transparent?
<2> rubikcube: I don't know.
<2> rubikcube: I just want blank spaces in the background.
<2> rubikcube: You are implying that I should whiten the background and give that a shot.
<2> rubikcube: How'd I go about easily doing that>
<2> s/>/?/
<0> no, it's enough that your background color is white and that you save that inside the png
<0> i.e. the secondary color in the gimp main window
<0> that works perfectly fine :-)
<2> rubikcube: I don't understand. The secondary color is, in fact, white. But how do I have to save it so that it doesn't remain transparent?
<2> rubikcube: I saved it with 'Save background color' enabled, but it's still producing the same effect.
<0> ok, which checkboxes do you have enabled?
<2> rubikcube: http://twat.com.ar/screenshots/2006-07-17%20-%20Gimp.png
<0> hmm, works fine here with those settings...
<0> try this and have a look at the resulting pbm: anytopnm fiber****_logo2.png | pnmscale -xsize 140 -ysize 60 | ppmtopgm | pgmtopbm > fiber****.pbm
<2> rubikcube: Then can you please send the file to me so I can convert it to ASCII art?
<0> ist the transparent part white now?
<2> No.
<0> s/ist/is/
<2> I keep seeing a grid.
<0> fiber****.pbm still has the grid?
<2> pbm?
<0> anytopnm fiber****_logo2.png | pnmscale -xsize 140 -ysize 60 | ppmtopgm | pgmtopbm > fiber****.pbm
<2> rubikcube: That looks very ugly.
<0> it should look b&w
<2> Yes.
<2> And the background has little black dots.
<2> That's probably the reason.
<0> yes
<0> the background color is real white?
<0> in the gimp, I mean
<2> rubikcube: In the gimp, the background still looks transparent. I just asked you how I can make it white, you said it was enough having white as the selected background color.
<2> rubikcube: But that doesn't really make a diff.
<4> anyone use gimpshop? It would be handy if there is a way I can lock all the windows into the main window... ?
<0> ok, I didn't mean the background but teh background color, sorry
<2> rubikcube: Using the paint bucket?
<2> I'll be right back, I'm starving. Having lunch now.
<0> double clicking on the background color symbol... cu later :-)
<0> chenko: well I don't, are you working under windows?
<2> rubikcube: I don't know if I got it right: double clicking the background color opens the color selection dialog where I can choose white. (it was already selected) Is that what you mean>
<0> yes, because I couldn't understand how else you could get the little black dots
<2> rubikcube: But that was already white, so I dunno.
<2> Perhaps the b/w grid that represents transparency gets hardcoded into the background? That'd be stupid, but I don't know what else to do.
<0> :-) nope
<0> could you do "anytopnm fiber****_logo2.png | pnmscale -xsize 140 -ysize 60 | ppmtopgm > fiber****.pgm" and have a look at the resulting file to see with the color picker in the gimp what color the background has?
<4> rubikcube, yes windows :)
<4> i know it doesn't match CS2s behaviour but it would be nice as an option :p proper MDI apposed to an SDI
<2> rubikcube: 0x878787
<0> oh, that's not quite FFFFFF :-)
<2> It's a solid grey.
<2> Nope.
<0> chenko: IIRC that's a project at the google summer of code, so it'll propably be a proper option in the medium future
<4> ah mint :)
<4> million windows whilst you have a million windows open gets a pain
<0> another question: did you try to save it not as an indexed png but with rgb color mode?
<2> rubikcube: No.
<0> chenko: yes, esp. if you only have one desktop to clutter :-)
<2> Just a sec.
<0> redondos: sorry I forgot to mention that i did that quite at the beginning
<4> at home I only have single because of the way I have my tv setup, I do use virtual desktops sometimes, but its a pain
<0> chenko: why? I had quite good experiences with multiple desktops under windows with my nvidia card
<4> ati, I use theatre mode, and its a pain using a 2nd monitor with it :(
<2> rubikcube: :-D
<4> it wants to clone the video onto the 2nd monitor and not the ruddy tv
<0> redondos: that looks like a happy redondos!
<2> rubikcube: Which means: Thanks, man! You got it right this time. :)
<2> Yes, sir!
<0> no problem...
<4> and maybe desktop space, im a CRT fan :p though I can get away with maybe another 21"
<2> rubikcube: Can you briefly explain what Indexed mode is?
<0> redondos: in rgb, you have the "full" color space from #000000 to #FFFFFF, whereas in indexed, there's only a much more limited palette of colors available
<2> rubikcube: To save space?
<0> nowadays this palette is created when the image is tranformed to indexed, so that "pure white" may not be available
<0> exactly
<0> or for design purposes, although there should be other possibilities for that
<0> chenko: I was talking about virtual desktops
<4> ah ok, they work fine, that's not a problem.... its just the switching irks me
<0> chenko: but I admit that the gimp and windows usually don't fit that well...
<4> stopped using it for a while, libexif zip is farked on sourceforge
<5> okay the GIMP used to have a plug-in it
<5> that made images out of ascii files
<5> they have taken it out
<5> I really like that plugin
<5> and it is disappointing that it has been taken out
<5> I want to know of there is a way to find it and put it back in
<6> it's not
<6> you need aalib forthe plugin to work
<5> what's aalib?
<7> it's aalib.
<6> ascii art lib, a library that converts graphics to ascii
<0> AsciiArtLIB
<7> if it's the answer to your question, then what precisely do you suppose it is?
<5> ah I found the page
<5> anywhere in particular it needs to be installed?
<5> I'm guessing for windows I use the DOS port
<8> Hi, is there any way to batch-sharpen a directory of JPEG files in the Gimp?
<8> *with
<9> hello!
<0> hello spiekey
<9> a friend of mine uses photo shop to create picrtures. what format should he save it in so that i can use it with gimp?
<9> so that akk the layers and features etc... are still there (e.g. to edit a text field)
<0> trygvebw: I'm sure you can, but I don't know how, but I'm certain someone here can help you
<8> rubikcube, :)
<8> Ill try to google it again
<0> trygvebw: I don't know how to do the gimp options from the command line, but the rest should look something like:
<0> "for image in *.jpg; do gimp <whatever actions> $file; done"
<8> okay
<8> thanks :)
<8> Hmm
<8> i've used the filter Sharpen to sharpen my images so far, should i use the Unsharp Mask filter instead?
<10> spiekey: there is currently no format that will keep text editable when loading it in gimp
<10> unless photoshop can save xcf now
<8> can't the Gimp open PSD files? i mean, it can save them
<10> it can open them, but text won't be editable
<8> ah
<10> you can add new text layers in gimp, however
<10> with the same drawback, i.e. you won't get editable text if you save as psd and open it in photoshop
<8> that's a shame
<11> hi, is there a script-fu that can handle UTF8 characters ?
<11> or, does someone know the name of an arabic font for the gimp ? -thanks
<10> script-fu doesn't handle utf-8
<11> schumaml: ok, i guessed that :)
<11> k, i guess i'll google to find the fonts
<11> thanks
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