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<0> hello
<0> I recently scanned a bunch of old photos with my new scanner
<0> I placed several photos on the flat bed scanner at a time, so now I was wondering if there was an easy way to separate those old photos into individual files
<0> I know that some scanners ship with drivers that are capable of this, so I know it is possible
<0> to automate that process
<0> but if it isn't possible to automate the process in linux, I was hoping someone would have some advice on how to efficiently do this in gimp
<0> or some other image program
<1> hi I need to know where the clone tool is in gimp.
<1> and if theres a desaturation brush in gimp?
<2> clone tool looks like a rubber stamp
<1> okay I see it
<2> next to the pen tool
<1> okay but when I try and use it it has a no sign
<2> no sign?
<1> circle with a line in it
<2> choose a bigger circle or brush



<1> okay
<2> the 19 perhaps
<2> hit cntrl and that will be what is cloned, when the cntrl is pressed you should see a + in the circle
<1> oh I didn't hold control
<2> that is when you click the mouse button also
<1> thanks
<2> http://gimp-savvy.com/BOOK/index.html hasnt been updated for some time but its still very relevant
<2> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/ also good
<2> http://docs.gimp.org/en/ essential as well
<1> thanks
<1> what about a desaturation brush?
<1> does gimp have one?
<2> i dont know
<3> warder: any paint tool in saturation mode can do this
<1> how do I gget into saturation mode
<1> I know its a stupid question but I am new to photo editing and textures
<3> choose it from the dropdown in the tool options
<1> alright heres the thing
<1> I am trying to make a nice UV_texture and I want to make the hole image change in saturation randomly
<1> like how white human skin has differences in color but still pretty much the same
<1> is there a script that does something like this?
<4> Is it possible to alter the brigtness of part of the image?
<5> Hello, if i want to print something on photo paper photo quality, what file format should i use to take it to printer
<5> or to print on my own computer
<6> anyone can give me a light about how can I create a HDR image using the images I've took with my brand new digital camera? (what I need to do is to 'merge' the pictures...)
<7> hi all - any developers know where the text describing layers in the gimplayertreeview comes from? Is it pulled from GimpItem somewhere?
<8> anyone experienced with CinePaint does known how do I save HDR manipuled image as JPG?
<9> hi
<9> how can i resize the canvas and the size of the preexisting layers at the same time?
<9> oh ok i did
<9> "layer to image size"
<9> my first panorama : http://smuckola.org/xoops/modules/xg2.1/index.php/v/arizona/home_landscape/mountain.jpeg.html
<9> http://smuckola.org/etc/mountain_before.jpeg
<9> i manually edited the contrasts and color balances
<10> wait until you get 6 pictures or more to stitch together :)
<9> OH I SHALL
<9> edhel: do you have a url to any of your big panoramas
<10> http://edhel.nerim.net/images/Louvre-panorama.jpg, and the making of it: http://edhel.nerim.net/soeurs/article.php3?id_article=30
<9> kthx
<10> (but making of is in french)
<9> edhel: pretty awesome.
<9> did you do it all manually or with any serious plugins?
<10> all manually, the purpose was to learn gimp
<9> :-o
<9> well, that'll do it.
<9> i trust that you fulfilled that purpose
<10> it's pretty long, that one took me 2 hours
<10> but yeah, at the end you're happy with the result and with the knowledge gained;)
<10> the original lesson is in english though if you're interested in it - I was just a translator
<9> babelfish does pretty well with french.
<9> what?! where's the english one, silly?
<9> why would you link me the french one? :)
<10> because the french one is my homework and has pictures in it ;p
<10> http://mailman.linuxchix.org/pipermail/courses/2005-April/001854.html
<9> edhel: did you use a nice tripod with degree measurements?
<10> no, pretty crappy camera and lousy angles between the pictures
<10> I'm sure I can do much better now
<9> oic
<9> did you have to rotate them?
<9> did you make a mask to blend them with?
<10> yes and yes



<9> k
<10> the original pics were so crappy I had to use every technique possible ;)
<9> i dont really understand masks.
<9> yeah it seems mildly blurry but impressive
<10> aah, masks... once you do you can't stop using them ;)
<9> yeah like layers, i bet
<10> yup the original pics were even blurred... I have to make another one someday
<10> exactly :)
<9> how is a mask different than a selection?
<10> a mask allows you to control the transparence of everything in each layer
<9> in a panorama, would you use a mask kind of like a gradient transparency?
<10> so it's pretty useful for blending
<10> yeah exactly
<9> is a mask only for transparency?
<10> gradient on a mask makes a perfect blend
<9> okay so why wouldn't they just add transparency to the gradient tool?
<10> it controls transparency, so I don't see what else it could be useful to
<10> there is transparency to the gradient tool, but that does something very different
<10> you can draw a black-to-transparent gradient
<10> you'll have black on top of your picture on one side, and black blending in your picture, and just your picture on the other side
<9> do you have the java plugin?
<9> in your browser
<10> but what if you want to blend a picture in another one?
<10> yes
<9> then you'd use a layer's opacity
<9> right?
<9> er
<9> i mean
<10> layer opacity only controls a general transparency, the same on each pixel of your layer
<9> you'd set a transprent gradient at the edge of each picture, in each picture's direction. but you couldn't adjust that later. so i guess a mask is a persistant transparent gradient.
<10> dtm, you misunderstand what a transparent gradient is. it will put some color on top of your image, and you don't want that
<10> a black to transparent gradient will put black on you image
<10> there is no "image to transparent gradient" - or rather, that's what you do when you draw a gradient on your layer mask :)
<10> and you draw it black to white
<10> (well, white to black in fact, but anyway)
<9> no i dont misunderstand it. i'm hypothesizing.
<9> i'm hypothesizing "what if they made an 'image to transparent' gradient"
<9> as compared to a mask
<9> <3
<10> well, a gradient is a paint tool, you can't do that
<10> and you would still need the mask for a lot of other things
<9> not even hypothetically?
<9> how about a gradient selection tool then
<10> no, a gradient cannot change the transparency of a pixel that is already there
<10> I don't understand why you want such complicated things when you already have masks to do that :)
<9> i'm not stating a desire. i'm using a hypothetical situation for the purpose of learning.
<9> do you understand what a hypothetical situation is? :)
<10> sure, but your hypothetical gradient selection tool seems quite complicate for something that will only serve one purpose :)
<9> yeah.
<9> it's just that my skills progress slowly, from one point to the next. :)
<9> and they tend to prefer immediately visual tools, whereas a mask is not immediately visual like a layer is
<10> that's pretty normal. I still discover a lot of things (sometimes even on tools I code...)
<9> my design skills are extremely iterative
<9> i have to tediously complete steps in succession, and i can usually only think one or two steps ahead.
<9> with graphic design
<9> but this is good because i think primarily technically
<9> i think in terms of a solution looking for a problem
<9> so now i'll start trying to think of how to use masks
<9> other than just panoramas
<10> and this may evolve with more practice. I have yet to find time to practice more :)
<9> yea.
<10> by the way, there is in fact something like a "gradient selection" : you can use the quickmask and paint a gradient on it
<10> that's a problem I have, always using masks when the quickmask would have been enough
<9> so you're saying you can make a mask and then paint on it, and the mask uses the contrast as a gradient?
<9> 01:55 < edhel> there is no "image to transparent gradient" - or rather, that's what you do when you draw a gradient on your layer mask :)
<9> 01:56 < edhel> and you draw it black to white
<9> ?
<10> no, the quickmask is something different
<10> the icon to activate it is in the lower left corner
<10> looks like a small selection square
<10> your image becomes red, and you can paint on that red.
<10> what is painted becomes white (or paler red if you use a soft brush or whatever)
<10> then you turn the quickmask off, and it transforms everything in a selection
<10> so if you paint a gradient on the quickmask, you'll get a full-to-none selection gradient


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