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<_AxS_> standard usb-storage driver provides support
<nanobanshee> nightvision: you typed too many lines at once and got kicked.
<richiefrich> _AxS_, how many MEGS
<_AxS_> 1g
<richiefrich> _AxS_, i want one
<ehaase> whats the difference between UNIX and Unix?
<_AxS_> 'The Source' by circuit city -- 80$CDN
<_AxS_> ehaase, ..three capital letters?
<W3BMAST3R101> Hey I'm a beginner in C++ and so far i've been using nano and the command line to compile source code. Could any one suggest to me a good C++ editor that is text based? -- Since i'm just beginning i just want to learn the language not a gui
<_AxS_> W3BMAST3R101, vi, emacs, jed .. there's a bunch
<Teknoenie> W3BMAST3R101: emacs
<richiefrich> ehaase, the capitals
<richiefrich> lol
<sloloem> I do everything in VI.
<_AxS_> W3BMAST3R101, if you're using X, kwrite isn't too bad
<W3BMAST3R101> alright, I'll check them out
<W3BMAST3R101> thanks
<Teknoenie> in X KDevelop is quite good as well
<Teknoenie> full IDE
<_AxS_> myes, kdevelop is better
<richiefrich> nightvision, or trying to get the liveCD to boot?
<Sulis> no, go for vim
<richiefrich> emacs
<W3BMAST3R101> Teknoenie: I have that. I'm just uncertain how to deal with makefiles for the time being
<sloloem> emacs = confusing
<nanobanshee> ehaase: http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/U/Unix.html
<_AxS_> W3BMAST3R101, make files are easy, just syntax-pains in the ***
<chron> * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)... <= how do you get rid of this
<nightvision> ya
<nanobanshee> W3BMAST3R101: vim has syntax highlighting.
<W3BMAST3R101> _AxS_: I intend to learn them later, but right now i just want to get C++ down
<nightvision> i started to do something and now ive lost my train of though
<nightvision> *thought
<W3BMAST3R101> i'll test out vim then
<richiefrich> nightvision, not installing gentoo then
<W3BMAST3R101> thanks guys
<_AxS_> np
<nightvision> im just trying to remember what I was doing
<nightvision> I feel like such an idiot rightn ow
<nightvision> lol
<dli> hard to imagine somebody does c++ with nano :(
<ehaase> nanobanshee: thanks!
<dweimer> Teknoenie: Ahh, I see. You want to use portage inside ubuntu... that would be quite difficult.
<richiefrich> nightvision, liveCD would boot, but are u just wanting to get that to boot and no install? .... or are u installing gentoo after u boot liveCD
<Loki> eclipse cdt :p
<nightvision> ...well yes the purpose is to install gentoo
<nightvision> if thats what your asking
<Solv> I'm getting a strange readout when I do cat /proc/interrupts..instead of 1, 2, 3 so on I have 0,8,9,14,15,50,58,66,74 etc etc....is this right? I mean my sound card is showing up on irq 66????
<meeseontheleese> I know im probably going to need nvidia-glx for xgl, but Im having some serious issues getting the nvidia drivers working on my friends computer, can someone help?
<nightvision> oh ya
<nightvision> i remembered
<nightvision> :D
<richiefrich> nightvision, then just boot any liveCD that works
<richiefrich> nightvision, knoppix is great for that :)
<phr023n> guys is this a safe CFLAG "-march=pentium4 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" to use with the 200.0 live CD?
<nightvision> and then what can do after that?
<nightvision> copy over the filesystem from there?
<phr023n> i mean 2006.0 liveCD
<richiefrich> nightvision, u can install gentoo from any liveCD
<nanobanshee> Solv: 0-16 are from the ISA days. the higher ones are for the PCI bus. no worries.
<nightvision> cool
<richiefrich> nightvision, all u need are two files
<dweimer> Solv: Are you on an x86_64 system?
<Teknoenie> damn i wish the GI supported LVM2
<nightvision> what two files?
<nanobanshee> richiefrich: post a link for the gentoo using knoppix trick. I am curious.
<richiefrich> nightvision, --> portage-latest.tar.bz2 and a stage3
<nightvision> alright
<nightvision> well I can just sftp those from the other computers
<Solv> dweimer..yes
<richiefrich> nanobanshee, let mem look
<paveq> phr023n: use -O2
<nightvision> would you wanna step me through it?
<nightvision> I can transfer the files over the network, so it would go fast
<nanobanshee> richiefrich: no way. you would need to unmount the knoppix and then mount the gentoo. I don't see it.
<Loki> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/altinstall.xml#doc_chap3
<nightvision> alright
<nightvision> im booting the second computer in Annvix
<phr023n> paveq, right now I'm using -03, if something breaks maybe I'll choose -02 the second time around
<richiefrich> Loki, thankis
<seren> http://pastebin.com/630220 any ideas
<nanobanshee> Loki: awesome.
<paveq> phr023n: well happy breaking, and -O3 is propably slower anyways
<richiefrich> nanobanshee, why unmount knoppix it not mounted
<phr023n> paveq, have you seen any problem by using -03?
<dweimer> Solv: That's normal. I have a 3ware card on 209. It's either a 2.6 kernel thing or an x86_64 thing. I only have x86_64 2.6 systems at the moment.
<Teknoenie> ahh.. finally it's working
<Solv> dweimer...cool so I'm not going crazy! thanks
<nightvision> alright, richiefrich, ive booted annvix in the second, and gentoo(stage 3 and portage) in the first
<richiefrich> i've installed gentoo from an ubuntu live cd
<nightvision> whats next
<Rat> What is the correct command to set default permissions for user to have access to the /etc/ folder ?
<phr023n> paveq, can you please tell me why is -03 slower?
<Rat> chmod what ?
<paveq> phr023n: no, because no-one uses it :P
<paveq> phr023n: its overoptimized
<richiefrich> nightvision, did u fdisk your hd's
<phr023n> paveq, damn I'm in deep sh*t then.
<TheSim> is there a how to for installing php with apache on gentoo?
<TheSim> i've done it many times before
<nightvision> no
<TheSim> but for some reason today it's giving me problems.
<paveq> phr023n: just add -funroll-loops and it will go MUCH faster :)
<nightvision> ill do that now
<nightvision> do mount hda first
<TheSim> so i wanted a how to to go through step by step to see where my mistake is
<nightvision> or can i just fdisk without mounting
<dweimer> Rat: The traditional permissions for /etc are 0755.
<richiefrich> nightvision, mount them untar --> the stage3 and --> untar portage-lastest --> then chroot
<nanobanshee> richiefrich: you need to get the two files from the internet, then. because until you chroot, you can't eject knoppix.
<nightvision> alright
<nightvision> well im just fdsiking them right now
<nightvision> hold on
<Rat> dweimer, alright
<richiefrich> nanobanshee, i don't eject anything, i fdisk/mount/untar/chroot/setup/reboot
<Rat> dweimer, I think I accidently changed them by accident, so now I dont have DIRCOLORs ro anything
<nanobanshee> richiefrich: untar what? the knoppix cd is in the drive. it is mounted. where does the stage 3 come from?
<phr023n> paveq, looks very much like I have to reinstall then :(
<paveq> phr023n: nope if it works
<paveq> phr023n: just change it
<Rat> dweimer, Thanks a lot for that... That worked
<paveq> phr023n: and them emerge -e world if you want
<richiefrich> nanobanshee, i have it on my ftp server/or download it from a gentoo mirror
<dweimer> Rat: Your welcome.
<phr023n> paveq, thats a good suggestion thanks
<nanobanshee> richiefrich: ahah! that was my point. you can't install from a cd using knoppix. it must be over a network.
<Teknoenie> is anyone using hardened?
<richiefrich> nanobanshee, i'm ***uming that ppl installing gentoo are on a network
<paveq> phr023n: you do have pentium4 right?
<dweimer> TheSim: I don't know of a single guide, but there is mod_php installation info here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Apache_Modules_mod_php and a link on that page has separate Apache setup instructions as well.
<phr023n> paveq, yes
<richiefrich> nanobanshee, how could u emerge anything :), but no i see your point
<paveq> Teknoenie: I'm using it
<richiefrich> nanobanshee, now^
<Teknoenie> how do you find it performs? any breakage?
<nanobanshee> richiefrich: nope. I got full gentoo stage 3 with GRP and openoffice running on my ibook before I plugged it into the network.
<phr023n> paveq, is i686 or Pentium4 better?
<paveq> Teknoenie: haven't noticed anything
<nanobanshee> richiefrich: then I started updating.
<TheSim> dweimer: thanks!
<paveq> phr023n: i686 is old, like pentium pro
<diamonte> anyone know what the s/pdif output of a digital effects petal would be go for on the computer?
<richiefrich> nanobanshee, did u get it from the source CD or live CD/ cause there really not much on them
<diamonte> if for a guitar
<paveq> Teknoenie: but desktop apps like X may not work
<nightvision> ok, its formatting right now, richiefrich
<nightvision> there
<TheSim> dweimer: and i think my problem is already fixed :)
<nanobanshee> richiefrich: about a year ago I got the install cd and package cd for ppc. worked smooth as silk.
<TheSim> dweimer++


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