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<0> RiverRat: What environment var would that be?
<1> don't use unstable X crap
<1> thats my idea
<2> how do i prevent emereging the 1.2 version of nexuiz and emerge the 1.5??
<3> ^zeon^: kill XGL? It's pointless crap anywayz
<4> psycophobia: unmask
<3> anywayz? I must be more tired than I thought./..
<5> hi there..can anyone tell me if XGL can use direct rendering on a ATI graphic card ..it looks like it's using the mesa gl extension
<6> LSD`: hey, itz really cool. just that gnome-them-manager crashes, otherwise itz fine
<3> ^zeon^: doesn't make it any less pointless
<7> what's the command to extract a .bz2 archive.. I forget lol
<2> rsk, I'm having a go but it does not seem to work
<3> GUIPEnguin: tar jxf
<0> Otherland: It *should* if it's a radeon, but why bother? Xgl is a basic X server at best. Problem is, quite a few programs use more than the basics...
<8> Otherland, you need the mesa gl interface because the window manager needs some extentions (not included in the drivers yet)
<9> hi
<5> pwuertz: ok thanks :)
<10> Q: i want to run a stable gentoo, but xorg7 is ~x86. what is the best way to install it?
<7> LSD`: it is not a .tar.bz2 just .bz2 and that command says tar: tis does not look like a tar archive
<11> How do I tell what version I have emerged of something?
<8> Kobboi, look for the Gentoo modular X server HOWTO
<3> GUIPEnguin: bunzip2 is what you want then
<10> pwuertz, i'll do that
<12> I'm getting X BadWindow errors in ssh -X, how do I find out which software to blame?
<8> try "ssh -Y"
<8> helps sometimes
<5> silverpower: it's just for the run..to see how far it can be pushed in speed... anything special you thinking it's missing ?
<13> hi!
<0> Kobboi: I wouldn't mix ~x86 and x86 for mod-X - what 'x86' would give you is the pre-mod-X-prepped packages for the most part.
<5> silverpower: and..yes it's a radion (9600)
<10> i'm ok with xorg 6.8.2 but i need to install a touchscreen driver and the driver on the disk is giving me troubles. i noticed there is a gentoo package for it, but it requires x7
<6> anyone using XGL right now ?
<8> yes
<3> nope :P
<14> ##gentoo-xgl maybe
<0> Otherland: Like I said, it's a basic implementation of an X server. It's not going to provide all the functionality, and since more effort is being expended on eye-candy instead of making it fully capable, you're going to run into trouble.
<15> I have it working, but running regular atm
<8> no... #xgl is the right one
<12> pwuertz: thx, that worked
<11> Hey, I seem to have two versions of gcc: 3.3.6 and 3.4.5. Its using 3.3.6. How do I make it use 3.4.5?
<12> gcc-select
<3> kevman: gcc-config
<12> ah, sorry
<0> It *may* be faster on certain systems, but short of a year's worth of effort and an overhaul of the majority of the drivers there's not much reason to play with it right now, and that's all I'm going to say about the subject.
<11> OK. I
<0> kevman: Follow the GCC migration guide. You have to do it or Very Bad Things are guaranteed to happen.
<12> i'm getting module load errors: bcm43xx: Unknown symbol ieee80211_wx_get_auth
<12> i believe my iee80211 module SHOULD export this symbol.
<5> silverpower: ok thanks for the headsup :-)
<12> can anyone verify this?
<16> silverpower: really? i just switched to ~x86 one day. what can happen?#
<0> Otherland: No problem. It's an interesting project, especially if you have hardware suitable for it, but there's a reason it's CVS only.
<0> drigz: If you have to ask, you *definitely* have no business running ~arch.
<11> silverpower, doing it now.
<0> kevman: The guide's method takes a while but is pretty much guaranteed to get you a working toolchain on the other side.
<0> Good luck. :)
<0> drigz: Running pure ~x86 or pure x86 is better than mixing the two, especially with modular X. If you run ~x86 x.org and x86 everything else, a lot of ebuilds will puke as the stable ones don't contain the mod-X fixes.
<16> silverpower: i know
<0> I run ~ppc here, and it works great, but I'm well aware of what I'm getting myself into. Unless you have a good reason, it's not a good idea.
<16> do you miss out on much using mac? do the packages take longer to release?
<16> i find that, apart from the occasional failed build, ~x86 isn't particularly unstable
<10> ok, i'll try to ignore the xf86-input-magictouch package (although it sounds as if it would solve my problem) and stick with xorg 6.8.2 and a completely x86-system
<10> thx
<0> My hardware is fully supported, so I need no binary packages, and there isn't *too* much lag on ppc. Other archs may differ, of course.
<16> it gets boring when emerges _always_ work, anyway
<0> drigz: hehe. ~ppc is about as bleeding edge as I get - I don't run cvs/svn ebuilds, I don't play with GCC4.1 (may try 4.0 again, worked wonderfully on my machine), so it's safe to use from day to day.
<16> i use a couple of rcs ebuilds, but only for the packages where it really gives something extra, like for amarok
<16> is there much to gain from gcc4?
<17> I hope I'm doing something wrong... my laptop's built-in WLAN can't connect to my network.
<18> i would also have this question
<0> I'd try Xgl on my system, but the r128 driver doesn't have the proper extensions to make use of it.
<16> i tried it, but compiz lacks xinerama support (among many other things)
<17> Anyone care to help me figure out why my WLAN won't work?
<16> krillancello: is your card supported?
<0> 4.0? Somewhat better build times. Even on my G3/500 the gains in speed aren't all that dramatic. 4.1+glibc-2.4 is far too raw to bother with, especially for such important parts of the system.
<16> which driver are you using? is the network encrypted?
<17> drigz: I have the drivers for it installed under ndiswrapper, and it reports that the drivers are installed and the hardware is present.
<17> drigz: Also, dmesg shows that the adapter's there. The only problem is getting it to actually connect.
<19> krillancello: try making sure your adapters radio is on
<19> krillancello: when you type iwconfig what does it show...
<20> Does anyone know where there are some true black & white gentoo logos?
<17> c0ns0le-hm: Brb... need to get a USB mouse. >_>
<21> hlieberman: true black and white meaning no grayscale? nope
<22> Isn't it possible to open several xmms att once?
<23> hello
<18> flogisto1: there is an option to allow multiple instances of xmms, yes
<23> i'm searching for someone to help me to configure xorg7 !
<23> please :)
<18> flogisto1: i think you need to set it in the xmms preferences dialog
<20> TFKyle, Hmm... know some greyscale? Perhaps I can convert, or trace, or something.
<17> c0ns0le-hm: http://pastebin.com/629377
<22> nollidj: oh.
<22> I see.
<23> it only work with vesa in driver parameter :s
<21> hlieberman: not really, theres probably one or two floating around though
<23> i have an ati radeon 9600 pro
<19> krillancello: ifconfig wlan0 up
<19> krillancello: then re post
<17> c0ns0le-hm: Repost iwconfig output?
<19> yup
<21> hlieberman: I think theres a filter in the gimp/etc. to make a coloured image grayscale, need to look for it though
<24> hey how can i force a portage sync? it says timestamps match and nto ding
<20> TFKyle, There is.
<24> but i removed something, and ineed a new sync
<25> has --inject been removed from emerge?
<20> TFKyle, But, that may not work... hmm...
<11> Damn... it wants to reemerge ALL of KDE?
<24> why am i getting so many error 416 problems trying to emerge xorg 7.0?
<17> c0ns0le-hm: http://pastebin.com/629379
<19> krillancello: do you have an essid to connect to?
<26> hello
<5> silverpower: You seem to know something about X and such...maybe you can ask this... is there any advange to to use Xegl (using cario)..here I'm thinking speed and features (fx) ?
<23> hey ! :( plz
<26> wots this gentoo chatt all bout?
<5> silverpower: maybe you can ask this -> mayne you can ANSWER this...sorry
<26> soecial subject ?
<27> mad-ali: support and getting help with problems
<27> mad-ali: or, of course, helping others
<27> =)
<18> mariux: that is different from --oneshot, correct?
<28> Hey. How do you emerge a specific version of a given package?
<17> c0ns0le-hm: If this thing were running Windows, I could just input the ESSID, the key, set the key options, and connect. The WLAN router is sitting on top of my desk, about three feet from this laptop.
<0> Otherland: I'm not sure about Xegl, just that it's even more raw than Xgl.
<18> (i remember seeing --inject as an action, maybe, but never had to use it)
<19> krillancello: try iwconfig wlan0 essid <youressid>
<29> hey folks, does anyone know of a handy tool for clearing out cruft from distfiles (i.e. archives that have no realitive ebuilds in the current portage tree)?
<19> krillancello: try iwconfig wlan0 essid <youressid> enc <key>
<30> AidanJT: rm
<25> nollidj: inject doesnt really install anything, it just tricks portage to think its installed, so that a package that is blocking a big install (in my case kcontrol for kde) can be skipped
<31> Hello. I wonna to emerge pam-login, bcouse I cant login without ut to system. I can't emerge pa-login bcouse shadow-4.0.14.-r2 is blocking package. What should I do??
<18> ahh, that's right
<18> hmm
<17> c0ns0le-hm: essid has yet to work. I've tried doing it before setting the key, after, both, setting the router to broadcast the ESSID, but it still doesn't pick it up. Brb while I try your second suggestion.
<5> silverpower: ooh... hmm... I'm prol'y wrong here..but it is possible to use cario on X (pure xorg) ? (sorry for all those questions)
<29> drphibes: i have over 2000 files in there, checking each file and rm'ing each would be a little painstaking :P~
<32> hello everyone
<31> Someone know how to repair conflict between pam-login and shadow??????
<18> mariux: gentoo bugzilla shows http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124347 , which indicates that --inject is indeed no longer present in emerge
<4> glubq: chek the topic
<21> glubq: boot from a live cd, chroot into it, and update shadow to the current ~ version (pam-login is now merged back into shadow)
<30> AidanJT: the contents of /usr/portage/distfiles/ is thoroughly deletable
<0> Otherland: Cairo proper should work, but some of the fancier features might not. Keep in mind that I don't follow Xgl development all that much as I disagree about the importance of it and am worried about it destroying the usefulness of older hardware.
<21> glubq: (***uming you're running ~arch on that machine, if not just merge pam-login)
<29> drphibes: not when you're sharing your distfiles over the network
<33> Hello
<30> AidanJT: i disagree. it's just a download area. emerging any package will simply re-download if its not in there
<17> c0ns0le-hm: http://pastebin.com/629388
<21> er, I guess he didn't have to boot from a liveCD if his env wasn't b0rked, but I thought he couldn't login already :D
<26> does ne one else get private chats linkin them to porn? shouldnt them ppl be blocked
<26> i get all excited thinin some1 talkin to me
<34> any1 experienced on wireless networking? the handbook claims wpa_supplicant is best, but it doesn't like me (ie no work, and i see no proper fail messages to give a clue)
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