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<0> what is the command to see the attributes of a directory
<0> ls - something
<1> Captain obvious o/
<2> ?
<3> running a laptop. would i save power if i compiled my kernel with usb, network and sound as modules and only load them after boot as needed?
<2> anybody running svnserve on gentoo?
<4> GUIPEnguin: which attributes ?
<4> Captain_Obviou: i am
<2> Ticho, is there a setting that binds svnserve to tcp port?
<2> tried on gentoo and debian- on both machines- svn commands work great from the machine itself- and netstat says svnserve is listening on tcp port- however a nmap of the machine from localhost or from another machine on same network says it is not
<5> hi there. i'm trying to give myself VNC access to the livecd while it's installing. problem is, i only have port 80 open and i don't know how to configure vino (the Gnome VNC server) to use it.
<6> hmm guys, i am reading this document but i dont understand how to create package.keywords file
<6> http://gentoo-wiki.com/index.php?title=HOWTO_Installing_3rd_Party_Ebuilds&printable=yes&printable=yes
<0> Ticho: I just cant figure this out... a user via ftp can make files and delete them.. but if they make a new directory and try to delete that they get 550: failed to change directory
<6> /usr/local/portage/kde-themes/polyester/polyester-0.8.8.ebuild
<7> hey everyone... I'm getting "undefined symbol" from alsa errors when starting up... anyone know what can be causing this? I don't have alsa-driver installed and am using kernel 2.6.16 (problem existed before 2.6.16)



<8> did gentoo.chem.wisc.edu just go down for anyone?
<8> ah there we go, seems to have crapped out for about 2 minutes
<9> /join 3gaim
<10> To get PCMCIA to work you no longer use pcmcia-cs you use pcmciautils right?
<2> so ticho did you have to add some entry that enabled network access?
<11> dahkneth_: i'll bet there is a good gentoo-wiki.com article on that
<8> *Crosses fingers*
<10> score: I've tried the wiki
<11> dahkneth_: well, i think you want the utils + kernel support for pcmcia
<11> dahkneth_: and fix the init.d script to run
<9> So I got this shinny new Gentoo install. I did some stuff different, I'm using hte preempt stuff in the kernel. Curious as to why my load is at 1.0 no matter what is or isn't running.
<4> Captain_Obviou: not really
<12> New0rder: never saw preempt do that. You're sure that's caused by preempt?
<13> What happened to the universal cd from x86?! The link has gone! :/
<9> marienz, that's mostly what's different. any other ideas?
<0> I just cant figure this out... a user via ftp can make files and delete them.. but if they make a new directory and try to delete that they get 550: failed to change directory
<12> New0rder: I'd verify it's really preempt by compiling a kernel with as only change disabling preempt.
<12> GUIPEnguin: umask? what permissions does the newly-created directory have?
<9> marienz, yeah. performance is still excellent, and well, I just don't have time to deal with that right now. but I'll attempt to debug next week
<13> Is the live cd supposed to the universal cd now?
<13> For x86 I mean.
<13> Because I cannot find the universal cd.
<12> New0rder: ***ume catting /proc/loadavg gives you a consistent 1.0 too, and the actual uptime reported by "uptime" is correct?
<0> marienz: the new created dirs are cireated with dr----xr--
<12> GUIPEnguin: that doesn't sound right.
<0> ls -o thats what it shows
<14> emerge gnome gdm fails with the following error: http://pastebin.com/628788 any ideas?
<14> i have done revdep-rebuild
<12> GUIPEnguin: afaik you *should* still be able to rm then, but not having +x on them might prevent it for some reason.
<13> Guys please ... just a moment of your time.
<0> I need to figure out why it is creating them with those permissions
<12> GUIPEnguin: I blame umask getting set to something silly somewhere
<15> which is the file where I edit which user groups have access to certian devices?
<13> I'm trying to get a friend onto gentoo since he's been having frustration with ubuntu. However, he cannot find the universal cd anywhere.
<3> Narada http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml
<16> Narada: well, if he's frustrated with ubuntu...
<17> Narada: Is he a person that dislikes reading?
<9> marienz well, can't do that now. Machine is doing things. :)
<9> I'll look into it more later.
<16> Narada: what's wrong with http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml
<9> ok. nfs is br0ke. I had it compiled in the kernel, not as mouldes and it won't mount. smbfs is a moudule and does well.
<9> grrr.
<14> i found my same error here, but it's in german... :\ http://www.gentooforum.de/artikel/7417/geloest-Fehler-bei-emerge-apmd.html
<13> eisen: r4624d I can't see x86 in universal cd section
<5> hi. i'm trying to forward a port on the gentoo installer livecd. can it be done? there's no iptables :(
<18> Narada: I don't think there is a Universal disc anymore. THere is a LiveCD. Iaam I wrong Anyone?
<17> jmpnz: That's correct.
<17> jmpnz: I think..
<13> jmpnz: Yes but how do you do the universal install now using the live cd?
<5> jmpnz: yes, but only for x86
<17> Narada: All the stuffs are on the LiveCD i think. :-o
<5> jmpnz: other archs still have universal cds
<15> how do I make sure all the users have full access to USB,.. I can only acccess my digicam through root as it is :(
<17> Universal >> LiveCD :P
<17> greeny: Create a group that is named USB and grant it permission to the usb devices? or put it on the users group? :-o
<9> is gaim 2.0 beta 2 somehwere in portage?
<19> New0rder: yes
<15> where do I go to set the usb device to be part of the users group?



<9> rsk, package.unmask is needed I suppose
<19> New0rder: thats correct
<9> rsk thank you.
<14> any ideas whether this is a problem in gcc, or what?
<13> ErZo: hmm weird
<17> Narada: What's weird? :-O
<5> so, can i do a simple, local port forwarding on the x86 livecd?
<5> would netcat do the job?
<20> anyone know the permissions (in numbers) for /root /home and /tmp ?
<14> okay okay... after a bit of research i have found the following: my error is because it is looking for gcc 3.4.4... however, i have 3.4.5.. why is it doing that, how to fix it?
<21> quiet, man gcc-config
<14> gcc-config -l lists all 3.4.5
<22> hmm, who's maintaining the gentoo/gentoo-dev/gentoo-forums fortune ?
<21> quiet, is there a * beside one?
<14> yes.
<23> i think so
<14> and there is no man for gcc-config
<21> hmmm
<21> ok, which one is gcc-config beside?
<14> # gcc-config -l
<14> [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5 *
<21> can you put the error onto pastebin please?
<14> http://pastebin.com/628788
<21> ok, I have no idea :/ tried bugs.gentoo.org?
<22> doc|work: fix_libtool_files.sh 3.4.4 ?
<24> someone here familiar with potracegui ?
<14> doc|work, i found this: http://www.gentooforum.de/artikel/7417/geloest-Fehler-bei-emerge-apmd.html
<21> CrashandDie, possibly
<21> quiet, does it list 3.4.4 in gcc-config -l ?
<14> no
<25> is the Gentoo Reference Platform still in existence? I can find references to it (no pun), but I can't find links to the packages isos.
<21> any version other tahn 3.4.5?
<21> *than
<14> nope
<21> hmmm
<14> the one i listed, 3 versions of hardened, and vanilla
<22> quiet: I actually broke my gentoo a few days ago, thanks to emerge --prune lol... DrChandra helped me out, though vice-vers*a actually told me to fix_libtool_files.sh ... Which got rid of the last problems
<14> i did fix_libtool_files.sh 3.4.4 (tried 3.4.5 too but it didn't do anything)
<26> hi
<21> CrashandDie, only useful if he can figure out what version was there, and according to gcc-config -l, there's no other versions installed :/
<26> i've one qeustion
<27> what is the difference between the following:
<27> Timing cached reads: 608 MB in 2.10 seconds = 289.52 MB/sec
<27> Timing buffered disk reads: 70 MB in 3.02 seconds = 23.18 MB/sec
<26> i use gentoo 2005.1 and kde 3.4 how could i update to kde 3.5 with portage
<19> bytekiller: unmask kde
<21> fluxdude, your hard disk has a cache (memory, which is faster) and is the first, buffered is being read of the disk I'd guess
<5> fluxdude: the first uses the in-kernel cache, the second uses the on-disk buffer
<22> doc|work: well, the pastebin copy shows us it's trying to access to 3.4.4, and he only seems to have 3.4.5
<26> hm, unmaks?
<14> yep.
<26> k, i will try
<26> thx
<27> JMilton: what do you mean in-kernel cache, how is this related to disk performance?
<21> CrashandDie, fair point
<5> fluxdude: the kernel caches data to memory
<5> fluxdude: and RAM is way faster than your IDE controller
<22> quiet: as I said, drchandra seems to be quite sharp on these kind of issues... You might wanna try to get him whenever he's around
<14> okay, thanks.
<5> fluxdude: the two tests exist for you to see the improvement in speed you get with caching
<14> in the mean time, i think i'll hit the forums
<27> JMilton: ah, thanks, so the second one is really the only relevent one for disk speed, correct?
<22> quiet: sure, any help you can get will be good... Just wondering, do you any library linking inconsistencies? revdep-rebuild --pretend
<26> hm, if i type #unmask kde or #emerge unmask kde
<26> nothing happens
<22> bytekiller: you're new to gentoo right?
<26> lol
<14> CrashandDie, i have run revdep-rebuild a couple times already... that was the first i tried :)
<26> right
<22> bytekiller: unmasking has to be done manually, there's no command to do it for you
<22> bytekiller: and that's probably a very good thing


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