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<0> i think so too
<1> score: Each version gets stuck in testing for at least 30 days.
<2> how to check program version?
<0> mkay, maybe its not a priority, but that doesn't imply that they hand out extremly crappy driver for a card my brother paid 600 bucks for ??
<3> Next time you buy graphics-card: vote with you wallet.. avoid ati
<0> i mean.... hell... what kind a world is this?
<1> espen++
<0> yes espen... you're damn straight there
<4> look if you don't like them, don't support them buy paying for their cards. end of story.
<5> is nvidia much better?
<6> sinizzl, i like ATI
<4> with linux drivers, superior.
<7> woah, $600 for a vid card... i wish i had that kind of money to blow
<1> score: Their drivers are.
<4> ati makes good hardware, terrible linux drivers.
<8> sinizzl: emerge gentoolkit so that you have equery.
<5> Fieldy: yes, but they are still binary. for all i know, i'm loading a rootkit
<4> score: shrug. don't use them then, i don't.
<0> thx nanobanshee
<5> <3 i don't
<2> what is gentookit?
<0> that would also be nice to mentioned in the gentoo-wiki howto
<1> score: Unfortunately, they are binary.
<4> only thing i don' tlike about this great laptop is the damn ati x300 card
<6> koad, all kinda neat tools
<9> how do i use grub stage 2?
<2> how can i install it?
<8> sinizzl: I run DRI on ati on gentoo on a freakin' ibook ppc G4. so I don't want to hear you complain.
<4> i had to kick ati-drivers out of this thing, it was causing my system to hardlock when resuming from any susupend or hibernate, and hardlocking the system completely upon logout
<10> nekoi
<10> admin online
<10> ima li ?
<1> oneeyedelf1: I gave you voice.
<6> koad, emerge gentoolkit
<4> xorg 7 radeon works fine. but i have to go without hardware accel...
<11> How do I debug a "MySQL NOT started! Continuing anyway." message from /etc/init.d/mysql most easily?
<6> deitarion, how u doing?
<1> deitarion: Try starting it manually and follow the messages
<2> how to recompile firefox?
<1> koad: re emerge it.
<12> sinizzl: When I do that, it seems to want to install xorg 6.8.2. This version will not work with my laptop, any way around this?
<2> need much time compile firefox?
<8> koad: emerge mozilla-firefox
<13> Where is the World file? :-o
<4> similar time that you had before: genlop -t mozilla-firefox (emerge genlop)
<2> how to check version of firefox?
<0> DebolazX, maybe you should use a newer version of X then
<6> koad, emerge -pv mozilla-firefox
<1> koad: Start it and check the about box under the help menu.
<7> koad: run it and check help:about. or emerge -s or -p it
<12> sinizzl: ...how?
<13> Can someone tell me where the world file is?
<1> ErZo: /var/portage/world ?
<0> DebolazX, by unmasking them
<13> ah, thanks RiverRat.
<0> u sure that it would work with X 7 ?
<8> ErZo: /var/lib/portage/world
<6> ErZo, /var/lib/portage/world
<11> richiefrich: /etc/init.d/mysql start
<2> how to speed up compiling process?
<1> Oops, sorry.
<14> koad get faster box :)
<4> koad: ccache, distcc, faster hardware
<1> koad: Buy a faster processor.
<8> koad: don't watch it.
<14> CPU is just one factor
<4> heh
<13> thanks nanobanshee and richiefrich :)
<14> even with -j3 i don't really get full load all the time
<6> np
<4> you're not supposed to
<14> i know
<4> throw -j0 at it heh (runs)
<11> RiverRat: Just prefix the initscript call with an echo and then feed the output to bash? (It really is an initSCRIPT)
<4> great way to abuse ram
<14> well, ram would help
<14> indeed
<15> Does cron have a log?
<1> deitarion: Look in the script for the command that starts it and execute it on the command line.
<12> sinizzl: Yes, the chipset isn't properly supported in 6.8.2. But, how do I tell portage to use 7.0?
<16> SmileyG: logs through syslog, so if you have a somewhat decently configured logging daemon you'll find something in /var/log/ for it
<5> Fieldy: what does -j0 do?
<0> DebolazX, there's a really nice howto in the gentoo-wiki
<4> score: fire up as many jobs as possible, i think. or maybe it was just -j
<4> i think it was just -j actually
<11> RiverRat: The command that's p***ed to startstopdaemon is generated by a subscript of about a dozen lines.
<2> bye,guys
<15> well its a got a few things in messages, but not what im looking for
<0> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Modular_Xorg
<16> SmileyG: which is?
<4> generally it's a good way to irritate your system and overheat it
<1> deitarion: Your going to have to dig into the situation then.
<15> to find out if logrotate is working xD
<11> Ok. One sec.
<16> SmileyG: should be able to figure out if it is run from what cron logs through syslog
<16> SmileyG: kinda hard to figure out if it is properly rotating without generating bogus logfiles
<15> ah i see ^_^
<15> i see emerge sync running...
<15> ntpd doesn't run anymore iether (my cronjobs got wiped :)
<15> i've still got a log here from the 23rd feb
<1> ntpd is started with the rc scripts. And I think that the main server rotation.ntp.org is no longer.
<12> sinizzl: Thank you.
<15> Anyone else iin UK confirm the time : D
<8> SmileyG: ntpdate?
<15> tim@beast ~ $ sudo ntpdate
<15> 29 Mar 10:44:31 ntpdate[24857]: no servers can be used, exiting
<15> heh
<15> nothing works xD
<17> hello..
<16> RiverRat: <countrycodehere>.pool.ntp.org is your friend
<11> Got it. Something had removed the /var/log/mysql directory and it was failing when it tried to open it's logs for writing.
<1> marienz: I fixed mine a couple of months ago, I just didn't remember what I did.
<1> deitarion: So you got it? Nice.
<11> Looks OK so far. The mysql command works. Now to try PHPMyAdmin.
<8> SmileyG: ntpdate http://ntp.isc.org/bin/view/Servers/StratumTwoTimeServers
<18> marienz: aye, I started using openntpd because ntp wouldn't build on amd64 hardened, and it was the first ntpd I'd used that ever actually worked :)
<15> tim@beast /etc/logrotate.d $ sudo ntpdate uk.pool.ntp.org
<15> 29 Mar 10:46:47 ntpdate[24979]: step time server 82.152.150.47 offset -1.324712 sec
<15> right hum, now i want to set up ntpd to run nightly or something?
<15> ntpdate*
<16> blackace: also it's waaaay easier to configure than ntpd if you don't need weirdo authentication/encryption features imho
<1> SmileyG: Let it run all the time.
<15> by hving rc-update add ntpd default RiverRat ?
<7> ntp-client only runs at boot, doesn't it? i was off over 200 seconds
<1> SmileyG: That's the way I do it.
<13> http://ntp.isc.org/bin/view/Servers/StratumTwoTimeServers
<13> ops
<13> sorry
<15> ntp-client | default
<16> one line to get the time from the server pool, another line to act as server on a specific port, doesn't get much simpler :)
<16> only thing you need to know is to add -s to the conf.d file for ntpdate-like functionality
<1> ntp-client runs at boot and ntpd starts after and runs constantly.
<15> ah ok
<15> and if it drifts too much it corrects it@?
<7> i only use the client. i wasn't aware it was a one shot deal
<15> so i guess theres a config file somewhere.
<16> ntpd does that
<16> ntpclient is a one-shot thing run at boot
<1> It has a theoretical maximum deviation of 65 ns. Since your hardware can't keep up with that it will be less accurate. Somewhere in the ms range.
<15> ah i've found the config file : /etc/ntp.conf ?
<16> also, ntpd should not normally "skip" the clock, while ntpclient may.
<8> SmileyG: ntpd continuously corrects the system clock, which is then saved to the hardware clock at shutdown and loaded again at boot.
<7> i guess 251 seconds over 77 days isn't too bad
<15> nanobanshee, kool thats what i want...
<15> just now to configure it
<17> oppss
<16> SmileyG: ntpd or openntpd?
<15> ntpd
<15> as far as i know :D
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