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<0> ahhh...i see. haha
<1> if you want a dm, like kdm or gdm, you can set that in /etc/rc.conf , and set the xdm init script to run ...
<0> MidnighToker: no, like i boot into runlevel 3, and startx starts my WM (gnome) but i was wondering if there was a different way to boot into a WM without setting it as default
<1> smshpk: ~/.xinitrc
<2> oh, urm, startx /path/to/wm?
<3> you want a random WM to start?
<2> smshpk: something like that, i dont think it works. you could try running /etc/X11/Sessions/$session
<0> well, specify the WM, without setting to default "startx"
<1> smshpk: ~/.xinitrc
<3> yea, i put mine in .xinitrc
<0> ahh that works? MidnighToker: you were right :-)
<3> granted, i prefer to boot into runlevel 3 as well
<4> how do I get auto file mounting working in gnome? I have hal and famd (I ***ume that since I installed gamin famd runs gamin) running.
<3> and type startx
<1> run level 3. heheheh this is gentoo!!



<5> I'm a bit confused; in Portage, the package name of libstdc++ is libstdc++-v3, but the file is called libstdc++.so.5 ... is this libstdc++5 or libstdc++3 ?
<1> default run level can be w/X or w/o X
<6> firefox crashes when I go to www.gentoo-portage.com (and other sites) with a segfault -- I tried with a clean profile also -- where do I go to start debugging this problem?
<2> default man! default!
<6> it also won't merge with USE=debug
<2> kelvie: what flags? are you using the binary?
<7> which version of firefox
<6> MidnighToker: ipv6 java xinerama -- no; but the binary does the same thing
<6> latest !x86.. 1.5.0.1
<6> s/!/~
<6> -r3
<6> it's been doing this for a while
<2> only on certain sites?
<6> MidnighToker: yes.. gentoo-portage.com and canadapost.ca are the ones that come to mind
<2> i'll have a look and see if those sites run anything specific -you dont have java support enabled?
<8> how do I ggno
<8> gnome
<6> I do have java enabled
<8> i never had to compile it, so I dont think I have it
<2> how do you gnome? thats just not polite.
<2> :)
<8> get gnome. lol
<9> ? gnome config guide
<10> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gnome-config.xml
<11> umm emerge gnome?
<8> hmm, now that I think about it. I've never used kde, I've heard its better. should i go w/ that?
<2> thidranki: you want e17. :)
<6> MidnighToker: any ideas? =/
<8> KDE just came out w/ a new release
<1> a light kde nowadays is a pretty nice setup
<4> when I try and start gnome-volume-manager from the console I get
<4> ** (gnome-volume-manager:9085): WARNING **: manager.c/2380: not on the system console
<11> KDE is bloated crap use fluxbox
<2> kelvie: well, gentoo portage has some java in there -might be an idea to download scriptblocker plugin and see if its the javascript thats killing it. just validating gentoo-portage with w3c atm. personally i've not had any problems.
<12> hi there...im new here...im using opera web browser to chat...
<1> Curs0r: it does not have to be, and I do use fluxbox. :)
<5> Hi, fredy27 :)
<12> hi there...
<11> fluxbox ist uber
<6> MidnighToker: it didn't do this before either.. it just happened one day
<0> hello therere fredy27
<11> i need to figure out fluxspace so i can really pimp it up though
<12> hi.....any topic in special?
<13> fredy27: Gentoo Linux..
<14> how do you pipe stderr to /dev/null as well as normal output?
<12> mmmmm.....im so new here in pc that i think i cant talk about that...sorry
<1> &> /dev/null ..
<15> Has anybody run into the following problem when burning a DVD+R: ":-[ CLOSE SESSION failed with SK=2h/ASC=04h/ACQ=07h]: Resource temporarily unavailable
<2> kelvie: well, there are some minor errors in the code, but nothing that looks like it'd cause errors. -could you try opening it on another browser? it could be corruption between you and the host.
<14> brianw: thx
<16> hows xgl on intel i810? anyone know?
<15> I saw a hack byp*** posted for Debian, but nothing for Gentoo.
<6> MidnighToker: konqueror works
<6> MidnighToker: and scriptblocker did it
<1> darksiide: no worries
<6> Interesting.. NoScript allows me to use the CanadaPost site too
<6> which package controls the javascript?
<2> kelvie: really? wierd. personally i block all java as default and selectivly allow.
<6> MidnighToker: yeah I usually do that
<6> but.. canada post and gentoo-portage... are generally sites I thought I could trust :p
<2> urm, hang on, if you emerge -tvD mozilla-firefox there are 2 java flags.



<6> I thought java != javascript?
<6> and I see one java flag
<2> kelvie: yeah, ditto. its not about trust tho. its necesity. personally i'll live without rollover jpegs and the script too.
<2> kelvie: hang on, had to install the other day, i'm sure there were two relating to it.
<1> yup, one java USE flag for mozilla-firefox
<5> I'm a bit confused; in Portage, the package name of libstdc++ is libstdc++-v3, but the file is called libstdc++.so.5 ... is this libstdc++5 or libstdc++3 ?
<17> any good theme or icons around for gnome?
<5> DarnSnake, http://gnome-look.org
<5> Lots of them :)
<17> Hikaru79, ok thx ill check
<5> np :)
<18> Hikaru79: well there's no such thing as libstdc++ version 5, so take a wild guess :)
<19> does emerge have an easy way to dump all the old version of packages?
<20> Hikaru79, libstdc++5 i believe
<19> selected: 1.0.4-r1 1.0.4-r2 1.0.4-r3 1.0.4
<19> for example
<18> DarkSnake: also art.gnome.org
<2> kelvie: its on the dev-java/blackdown-jre that gets called as hte dependancy when Java is enabled on firefox. i think you might have to set mozilla and browserplugin as useflags for that.
<1> ^Spinner: emerge -c
<5> reisio, no such thing as libstdc++ version 5??
<2> kelvie: kinda right, just had it the wrong way round :)
<18> Hikaru79: correct
<6> MidnighToker: ah.. browserplugin is off
<19> brian - so can I do that on wolrd?
<5> Some quotes from a random search on libstdc++ version 5
<5> The XaraLX binaries we distribute require libstdc++ version 5, which is not installed as standard on some modern distributions
<2> kelvie: try setting that and then rebuild both
<6> MidnighToker: aw.. rebuild firefox again?
<5> ... with libstdc++5 installed alongside the default libstdc++ version on your ...
<6> we'll see :p
<6> MidnighToker: thanks for the heads up though
<18> Hikaru79: oh, well if you found it online, it must be true, then
<5> Well, if several software packages all say they require it, then I was inclined to think so, yeah.
<20> Hikaru79, libstdc++5
<5> Not saying I'm right, just saying that's where my thought came from ^ ^;
<21> which plugin is the culprit for firefox crashing on most of the myspace sites... ? flash,mmplayer-plugin,java?
<2> kelvie: well, i'd rebuild firefox, but then i'm not trying to use it ;) -no probs. its nice when a stab in the dark goes squelch.
<11> ok, now, is anyone else suffering with intel 845 video?
<2> dip: already had one where its java (but on another site). try it again using scriptblock firefox plugin.
<2> dip: but then i dont trust flash, and still havn't gotten it working on my linux box....
<6> MidnighToker: would rebuilding blackdown-jdk be a good idea also?
<2> kelvie: yes, definatly. you have to to set the extra useflag.
<6> mm.. this is odd because I've never had this use flag
<6> and this problem popped up recently
<20> Curs0r, i was
<11> odla, did your opengl totally **** *** with it?
<22> do i have to set use flags if ill be running both kde and gnome?
<23> what does that measn --> checking keysymdef.h... configure: error: Cannot find keysymdef.h
<20> Curs0r, oh...i don't know
<23> sorry how can i fix it, i mean
<2> kelvie: what version are you running? latest seems to be 1.4.2.03 on blackdown....
<1> richiefrich: what version of xorg-x11 are you on?
<6> MidnighToker: yep, that one; had it for a while
<6> MidnighToker: had it since December
<23> brianw, i'm trying to emerge -modular X on my other box,
<2> kelvie: wierd. just booting gentoo now, so i can see if it crashed on that box too.
<1> richiefrich: on my workstation (x86 KEYWORD), x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r2 (/usr/include/X11/keysymdef.h)
<1> richiefrich: my laptop is on modular, but I do not have it at the moment
<23> brianw, i did everthing the same as my other box
<23> brianw, and now i get that
<24> I want to make a firewall out of gentoo, how much space am I going to need?
<1> richiefrich: on your other box, see who owns the file: equery f /usr/include/X11/keysymdef.h , or qfile /usr/include/X11/keysymdef.h
<22> do i have to set use flags if ill be running both kde and gnome?
<6> MidnighToker: alright.. just installing the jdk and jre didn't work -- looks like I have to build firefox =/
<1> detectiveinspekt: you can get it down quite low if you exclude /usr/portage/ :)
<23> brianw, !!! The query '/usr/include/X11/keysymdef.h' does not appear to be a valid package specification
<1> detectiveinspekt: otherwise, I would stay at least 2-3 GB's
<6> konqueror is a great browser.. but all of my plugins I'm used to are for firefox
<25> detectiveinspekt: as brianw said, if you can nfs-mount /usr/portage/ on another machine, you might be able to squeeze it into 1gb, 2gb easily.
<24> yea what I'd do id make the sys on a hdd, delete unnessary stuff and copy it to a cf card
<23> brianw, --> x11-proto/xproto (/usr/include/X11/keysymdef.h)
<24> ok thanks
<23> brianw, that what the qfile output


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