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<0> Peper, oh, lol, forgot about that, wow thanks
<1> here
<2> WMAN, what does?
<3> Triffid_Hunter: yes, I have the support in the kernel... how safe is that?
<0> brianw, I tried user a while ago, remember it didnt work, I still had that inability to write
<4> mrwoody, emerge cpufrequtils
<5> Squawk: netfilter does :P
<6> torsionbalance: i've seen no such script lying around myself.. can't see it being too hard to write though, just gank xdm and mod it a bit
<7> meeseontheleese: you said mount, nothing about file permissions
<2> WMAN, if it didnt then a lot of people have been duped
<6> mrwoody: what do you mean "how safe"?
<5> :)
<3> dli: thanks
<3> Triffid_Hunter: well is it a dangerous thing to do?
<1> heres my deal : my system freezes from time to time, especially when im doing cpu-heavy things, gaming, emerging/compiling. The same sys runs smoothly with win XP. my question is : could it be that my gentoo is setuped wrong, using X86 when running AMD64? or what? :S
<0> brianw, ah, yeah my bad, well basically it mounts and everything, but Im mounting it from root, hence I think its only setting the permissions for root, I was questioning if there was a way to mount it from user, that way it would hopefully give me read and write for that user
<7> mount it as your user...
<8> Triffid_Hunter, brianw: it was cdrom.
<8> thx
<0> brianw, I tried that, it gives me only root can mount error
<7> TJNII: ya
<0> brianw, hence my groups question
<9> any tips on making transparency not so insanely slow with an ATI M7?
<6> mrwoody: only if you're using nforce2 and you turn on full bus disconnects during halt
<7> meeseontheleese: you have to have the "user" mount option set...
<4> pontusen, overheating?
<3> Triffid_Hunter: nforce3 here
<3> Triffid_Hunter: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/ exists but not cpufreq
<1> dli, well, i can play/benchmarking things smoothly in windows?
<0> brianw even with user set in my fstab (which just double checked) it still gives me mount: only root can do that
<6> mrwoody: hehe if you're even able to find out how to turn on full bus disconnects, you'll probably be able to read the kernel source for the modules and decide for yourself... I find my nforce2 scaling to be extremely stable without that (hard to find) option turned on. consider, that my connection to freenode has been up for over three weeks ;)
<7> meeseontheleese: here is mine: /dev/sda1 /mnt/flash vfat noauto,user,exec,umask=7077 0 0
<3> Triffid_Hunter: :-) ok... thanks for your hint...
<0> brianw, hmmm, any chance its because my file system is type in fstab is set to auto?, or that my umask is umask=022
<10> Do I need to format my partitions somehow before installing Gentoo?
<4> Impulse2, no :9
<10> thx dli
<6> Impulse2: you need at least one partition you can put a linux filesystem on
<10> so i can just write over my debian installation?
<11> hi
<4> Impulse2, write over? you'd better delete the old folders
<12> anybody know when the gentoo wiki will be back up?
<13> Hell-Razor: you can use google cache
<6> Impulse2: yes, though i'd suggest formatting debian's partition since its quicker than deleting, and if you don't remove the old it may bite you in the future.. save any pertinent configs and /home though ;)
<12> Peper, how would i do that
<12> ? installing gentoo on vmware
<14> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=66930
<0> brianw I really think its a group issue, so far my groups are wheel, audio, vide, and users
<10> to format it can i just mke2fs it?
<3> Triffid_Hunter: sorry... I am a bit ignorant. What module do I really need?
<7> meeseontheleese: add yourself to usb group and try then
<3> Triffid_Hunter: cpufreq_userspace?
<4> Impulse2, if you can format it, yes, mkfs on it
<13> meeseontheleese: just check what's group of what you want to mount
<0> Peper, any chance you know of a site with a list of all available groups?
<0> brianw, err that was for oyu
<1> are there any simple tools for just monitoring your gpu/cpu-temp?
<6> mrwoody: that one allows you (or a program) to control your cpu's frequency. you may want to also look into conservative and ondemand
<0> cant type today....
<7> meeseontheleese: less /etc/group
<13> meeseontheleese: check group of what you want to mount, will be easier
<15> so, if i have a 2004.0 install cd. it's all i have. i don't have any blank cds. i need to reinstall the system cos it's too old to update. if i start this cd, which i think is based on 2.4 kernel, i should be able to use the net to install the latest snapshots and stages without a problem, right?
<6> pontusen: there's a little info in /proc/acpi, but you probably want lm_sensors
<0> Peper, how do I do that?
<16> where does Gentoo install KDE headers by default?
<10> dli, shuld i try using genkernel this time?
<7> meeseontheleese: add yoursels to the usb group, and logout/in w/ your user
<13> Turkish: i think so
<6> Turkish: should be able to, though it may get a shade bumpy in parts
<16> IE for ./configure --prefix=`kde-config --prefix`
<4> Impulse2, no :( just do make menuconfig :9
<15> Triffid_Hunter, where might those bumps pop up?
<0> brianw how does the gp***wd command go again, I remember usermod, just not gp***wd
<13> meeseontheleese: ls -l /dev/.....
<10> ok
<7> gp***wd --help
<3> Triffid_Hunter: thanks. I do have all of those (as modules) ... I just wanted to know which one I had to modprobe now
<7> gp***wd -a user group
<6> Turkish: really disparate version requirements may cause strangeness.. see how you go though
<0> Peper ah, I get what you mean, man I dont know whats wrong with me today
<6> mrwoody: whichever ones you want to play with ;)
<17> i'm trying to install grub on a new gentoo system but i'm having trouble
<13> :D
<13> hth
<17> i get "Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time." but nothing happens afterwards
<17> for a very long time, as in over an hour
<17> i tried grub --no-floppy and grub-install /dev/sdc
<6> tgnb: try lilo
<15> is there a way i can clear out my / partition and replace it with the most recent stage and portage tree?
<15> i don't want to redo my kernel just yet or change grub or anything.
<13> Turkish: you can just format it
<15> Peper, but i can't format it when i'm using it.
<6> Turkish: boot up the 2004.0 cd, format, download, install.. ignore the tarballs on the cd ;)
<13> Turkish: from cd...
<15> oh no duh.
<15> i'm being such a moron.
<18> isn't the preferred way to permanently set options for modprobe to use /etc/modules.d/<module> and then modules-update?
<15> then just copy over my old make.conf, fstab, and go on, eh?
<4> drphibes, I think you mean /etc/modules.autoload/kernel-2.6
<7> meeseontheleese: did it work?
<18> dli: no thats what i want to avoid
<0> Peper, I added myself to the group disk, which is what ase1 was onder, yet when I try to get into it, I delete anything I cant
<19> is -O2 acceptable for make.conf CFLAGS?
<20> kn0x: yup
<21> i cannot belive that i burn 2 cds and i still cannot boot gentoo
<7> ase1 ?
<17> Triffid_Hunter, i'd rather try getting grub to work first. i dont feel giving up so easy makes sense
<3> Triffid_Hunter: btw, since you seem to be an expert... I am trying to play with sensors. conf, I think that I get everything +/- correct, except for the temperature. The temperature is 45 degree higher than what it is should be (according to sensors)
<4> kn0x, -O2 is recommended
<6> Turkish: i would surely save them, but not just copy them back and hope it all works out ok.. i would instead get everything working with fresh ones then move settings over when things have calmed down a bit
<19> cornet- Dual Processor?
<22> papaz: how did you burn it?
<3> Triffid_Hunter: do you know anything about this?
<22> papaz: as a file or as an image?
<19> anything special i should put in make.conf for a dual processor system?
<20> kn0x: ??
<21> yoruichi k3b - burn image disk :) speed 8x )
<20> kn0x: as in you have dual processor ?
<6> mrwoody: go play in sensors' config file.. sometimes they have a few alternate calculation methods for your chip
<19> right
<23> Did the latest portage (pre4) remove a whole bunch of USE flags? My emerge --newuse has more than 60 packages in it, and most seem to be audio/video stuff that has been removed
<21> yoruichi image
<22> papaz: so what's the prob? :P
<21> yoruichi lol
<21> yoruichi nothing everything works
<6> mrwoody: i've tweaked mine a fair bit to correlate with some real sensors i had available
<20> kn0x: no real CFLAG stuff needs setting for dual cpu
<18> i created an /etc/modules.d/bttv file with card=63 and tuner=2, then i did a modules-update
<21> yoruichi cannot bott to start the installation man
<20> kn0x: just set MAKEOPTS="-j3"
<0> brianw, nope, added myself, mounted it in root, couldnt write, umounted, tried to mount it in user, no love
<3> Triffid_Hunter: they don't... I completely rewrote that file. If I write @-45 it would give me the right temperature, but I am not sure if it is the right correction to do
<6> mrwoody: onboard sensors tend to be precise but not accurate
<18> thinking that modprobe bttv would then pick up those options
<10> dli, for the stage3 tarball, shuld i use i686 or x86 for a pentium 4?
<21> yoruichi it should boot from cd but it doesnt , it still boot from disk
<18> but it doesn't for some reason
<3> Triffid_Hunter: well so how do I know if I am not overclocking too much?
<7> meeseontheleese: did you logout/in after you added yourself to the group?
<4> Impulse2, i686
<6> mrwoody: emerge glibc, if it bombs you've gone too far
<22> papaz: have you set the bios to boot from cd? ;)
<3> Triffid_Hunter: ok... :-)
<21> yoruichi hell yeah
<3> Triffid_Hunter: bombs means ? ;-)
<20> doesn't build mrwoody
<0> brianw, hehe, whoops, brb
<6> mrwoody: randomly fails for no reason, and in a non-repeatable manner
<24> I'm trying to load this url but i get no response, could someone else have a try at it http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ATI_Drivers
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