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<0> Langly1: yes, and it didn't work out
<0> rigelf: that seems more like a #hardware problem.......
<1> hey im having the problem emerging the many things like glibc, xorg-x11, etc and it always says undocumented probably hardware error
<1> memory?
<2> rigelf: the usb and agp will probably always share the same IRQ -- those are both set by the mobo.
<3> my cross-binutils compile fine, bit cross-gcc-stage1 fails every time
<1> im gonna do memtest86
<4> Shirakawasuna: ok, thank you
<5> anyone know pros/cons of specifying block size with mkfs?
<0> Langly1: same thing happened to me
<0> Langly1: I gave up :)
<6> Turkish: yes
<0> heyodee: no problem, good luck with that system. Keep in mind that if you were to compile your entire system, it would seriously take a week or so to get KDE/GNOME
<2> rigelf: unless anything specifically goes wrong due to this IRQ sharing, i'd just ignore it and move on. IRQ's have routinely been shared among devices for years
<3> my quad pentium pro took almost a week for KDE because it only had 256m ram
<0> heyodee: if you can set up distcc, you could reduce that time a bit, but I had bad luck with distcc
<7> well, i know there is considerable discussion on the forums. may be docs on the docsite.
<8> Shirakawasuna, the wiki page totally forgot athlon-4, one of which is running here
<9> tdr: I think it basicallys works as, larger block size = more wasted space but faster access, smaller block size = less wasted space but slower access. It probably affects the maximum files you're allowed to have, too
<0> dli: yeah, well....it's a wiki
<10> thechris: all that's wrong is that my graphics performance is too low to be of worth
<0> dli: wikipedia or gnome-wiki?
<8> Shirakawasuna, wikipedia
<9> tdr: it's probably not all that 'dangerous' to do so however, as long as you stick to one of the recommended values (i.e., 1, 2, 3 or 4 times 1024 bytes)
<5> ro28, yeah, it effects inode #
<0> rigelf: are you sure that ti's the irq conflict?
<2> rigelf: card? x11 display driver?
<7> what is sys-devel/patch for? do i need it?
<5> ro28, basically i'm just wondering if i use 1k blocks for an install if i'll waste less space than the default 4k?
<11> Turkish, most definately.
<10> Shirakawasuna: no, but it's all i can figure
<9> tdr: you definitely will waste less space
<12> Turkish, for patching ?
<5> ro28, any idea how much slower the access time is?
<4> Shirakawasuna: i thouhgt about that too
<13> Hey all!
<9> tdr: sorry, no, don't really know... it might be significant though, otherwise I imagine 1k would be the default
<4> Shirakawasuna: The first one was a really slow lappy, almost dead, infact without any power what so ever
<0> heyodee: if you can manage to get distcc running and had a couple other computers that could compile 686 it would totally be worth it
<5> ro28, ok, i'll googel a bit, maybe i'll compromise and use 2k
<9> tdr: by the way, what filesystem is this?
<0> heyodee: the other computers would have to be faster, of course
<6> Turkish: you had some input on possible CFLAGS for an athlon-tbird ?
<10> thechris: nvidia 6200a, nvidia-8178-r3, kernel 2.6.15-r1
<5> ro28, ext3 with acl and b-hashing enabled
<4> Shirakawasuna: I'll give it a shot
<13> I'm looking to buy a nice rack-mount server so I can setup an 8hd RAID 5 array, would anyone here have any suggestions for a company to buy a machine from? (Ideally I'd like to have a dual Opteron machine)
<2> rigelf: loading GLX? not too sure on the 6200 line.
<9> tdr: ok. good choice :-) I was going to say, with reiser you don't get much wasted space regardless of block size, but I still wouldn't have recommended reiser anyway
<0> heyodee: good luck
<4> Shirakawasuna: my laptop is a 2ghz. not the fastest but its ok
<0> heyodee: more ghz than mine
<5> ro28, couldn't pay me to use it .. well technically you could, but it'd be really expensive
<7> YeTr2, ah ... tbird, not exactly. i have dual xeons. have you checked the forums yet?
<10> thechris: quite simply, with a different motherboard, same card i could play 3d games, at the moment, i cannot
<6> Turkish: which forums?
<4> Shirakawasuna: well, how much do u have?
<7> Jessica1, yoruichi, Well, F-word. I can't figure out why portage won't compile it. It says it cant run c compiled programs.
<2> robd: they now make socket939 opterons which are cheaper then two socket 940 opterons. maybe look into one. not sure where. maybe find something local?
<7> YeTr2, Gentoo Forums?
<0> YeTr2: CFLAGS? you'll be fine with CFLAGS="O2 -march=athlon-tbird -pipe"
<2> rigelf: have DMA enabled on the HDD?
<0> YeTr2: it's what I use on my athlon-tbird machine
<6> Shirakawasuna: I've done that before, now I wanna rice my machine into the ground
<3> yay cross-gcc-stage1 succeeded
<0> heyodee: 1.4 ghz, but it's a pretty darn nice brand new celeron-m with 1 meg cache
<0> YeTr2: you'r silly
<0> hehe
<7> YeTr2, have you checked out: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags
<14> does gentoo use nptl by default?
<12> nope
<14> ok
<15> gentoo doesn't do much by default
<6> Turkish: yeah, I glanced over that
<0> duxex: but like most things with gentoo, there's probably a guide
<2> YeTr2: depending on GCC version, maybe try -fweb and -ftracer . these are safe, but make compiles longer and don't garuntee a performance increase.
<3> damn linux-headers failed that time grrr
<14> I know that smart ***
<15> duxex: please watch the language
<6> ok, I like the fact that everyone is throwing out CFLAGS, but I would also like to know what part of performance they may or maynot increase, so a site maybe or somewhere with a small explination?
<16> Does anybody remember a SourceForge website editing program? It has a purple logo :\
<4> Shirakawasuna: not bad one bit
<17> YeTr2: http://www.funroll-loops.org :P
<15> YeTr2: the safe cflags article is all you need
<6> I've done safe Ginsu_Squirrel, now I wanna do flipping dangerous
<18> have anyone of you ever had problems with KDE 3.5.0
<15> YeTr2: you wanted to know about performance... you wont get anything
<18> i can't restart my PC or log out of KDE
<19> Anybody have a good tutorial on how big partition sizes should be, stuff like that? Im a linux noob
<20> Hiya, I'm finding myself in a bit of a problem for the 2nd time trying to install gentoo. Once I chroot, the bash keeps coming up with 'command not found', and claims bootstrap.sh doesn't exist
<15> Iceman2oo0: all you can give it
<19> I have a 2 gig HD
<0> hehe
<19> I cant give it much
<15> gildedlink: what guide are you following? not the handbook
<0> Iceman2oo0: what do you want to do with it?
<17> Iceman2oo0: 2G is a little on the small side for Gentoo...
<7> more incredible and awe inspiring processing powers, preferably in pairs = better performance.
<0> Iceman2oo0: you couldn't use gnome/kde with that size
<19> >.>
<7> uber manipulation of cflags = despair.
<19> I dont really want to do much with it, just learn
<20> Ginsu_Squirrel: I've been following the AMD64 handbook, no other guide
<15> gildedlink: no handbook makes any mention of bootstrap
<12> gildedlink, why not stage3?
<6> LSD`: is that your site?
<17> YeTr2: no
<20> I wanted to try a stage one to see if I gained worthwhile performance form it yoruichi
<15> gildedlink: in the end, stage1 is identical to stage3
<15> gildedlink: but alas, if you choose to not follow the handbook, we cannot offer support
<12> gildedlink, you can always rebuild your system
<21> Turkish, you from turkey ?
<12> stage1 is troublesome :P
<10> thechris: oddly no, i will run some hdparm
<8> gildedlink, I suppose stage3 followed by "emerge -e system"
<20> yoruichi: This is the 2nd time it happened =P
<6> LSD`: cause there's a type in the --USE-flages section, paragraph 7, sentance #2 wunning
<12> gildedlink, see? now sitch to stage3!
<12> switch*
<17> YeTr2: if it's in one of the quotes then it's most likely intentional
<22> also stage3 by default will make the GUI installer fit in more gracefully, that's how it should be. stage1 is really "ricer" stuff and does more harm than good for gentoo's image (though its very important from a developer / poweruser perspective)
<6> oh...
<6> bleh..
<17> YeTr2: the quotes are just copy-paste jobs from the gentoo forums
<2> rigelf: hard drive issues can affect game load times, and performance if you are starved for ram. 6200tc will take some of your ram...
<17> Kernal32: making the GUI installer fit in is a reason to *not* use stage 3 ;)
<22> *then
<22> whats the best one for the installer LSD` ?
<8> kernel: <1>Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000028
<15> Kernal32: the best way to use the installer is not to use it
<22> typical response there
<10> thechris: the load time isn't the issue, it's the actual video performance, glxgears reports about 530fps
<10> iirc should be like... 1500-3000?
<2> rigelf: maybe opengl-update nvidia
<17> Kernal32: if a GUI installer is so important to people then they should really be looking at a different distro
<15> LSD`++
<10> thechris: tried that too :(
<22> I do agree with that, I was only commenting due to the fact an installer exists, I just wish there was a central way to do gentoo installs, but i suppose I could script that
<7> eduedix, No, I'm not from Turkey. I took this name up when I was a big fan of Camel Turkish Golds. Then I switched to Camel Filters, but kept the name
<22> the idea of mine was to boot of the network and start the installation without me being there, ie, things "filled" out, un***ited install, hardware is nearly the same
<21> :P
<8> is "reboot -hf" a good idea to force reboot?
<15> reboot has no -h flag
<15> oh, it does
<15> stupid man page
<23> evening... no, its now half 8... morning guys...
<8> Ginsu_Squirrel, since it's a remote box, I don't want it to hang and simply out of control
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