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<0> Motivated: no but whats the prob?
<1> I wish xorg 7.0 would hurry up and unmask :\
<2> brianw, alright...then what can I do? cause this is abnormal slowness
<3> phoenixX: are you sure it is i/o ?
<4> GentleGiant, supposedly the sk98lin driver is used for it but the card is still unusable after loading that driver
<5> phoenixX, what does hdparm -t /dev/sd? tell you
<4> GentleGiant, so basically I cant even find the proper driver to load into a installation
<0> Motivated: did some googling? do u have different live-cds?
<1> !seen yubimusubi
<6> yubimusubi was last seen 27 hours, 18 minutes and 40 seconds ago, saying 'hrm..I've never been hit by a netsplit...' in #gentoo.
<7> anybody tried e17 yet?
<2> rommel, it tells me: Buffered disk reads: 108MB in 3.01 seconds = 35.90 MB/sec
<4> GentleGiant No, I have only tried 2005.1, and yes google is killing me at this point
<1> mike_d my buddy ravi has, says its a bit unstable
<5> well thats about normal
<0> Motivated: is the card listed in lspci?
<4> GentleGiant, yes it is
<8> mike_d: Last time I played with e17 it was unusable.
<5> phoenixX, that looks ok... not great but not abnormally slow either
<9> in /proc/interrupts i have a line like: 11: 53668 XT-PIC uhci_hcd:usb1, nvidia -- and my mouse is on the first usb controller.. this is a problem, right?
<10> whats the best image viewer for X?
<7> meeseontheleese, it "is" unstable, just wanted to know if it built ok or not :)
<2> rommel, the main issue, is that in KDE and such, it takes a lot longer to do the special animations than it should
<2> like when opening a folder in konqueror for example
<3> phoenixX: time dd if=/dev/zero of=~/test.hd bs=1024k count=2048 && time dd if=~/test.hd of=/dev/null bs=1024k count=2048
<11> anyone know how to fix an "error 13" from GRUB?
<0> Motivated: can you give me the line of lspci?
<5> phoenixX, whats your video card
<2> rommel, ATI Radeon X300
<4> GentleGiant, I am on the actual laptop right now, its my only pc :(, so no
<5> brianw, its an ati problem
<5> lol
<12> bah stupid portage tree
<4> GentleGiant, Should I just try older livecd's?
<1> mike_d lol, yeah, um built ok, as far as being really configurable it does a good job, though its themeing program is a PITA for those who are used to text file customization like in flux (<3 to flux)
<13> hahaa, ati--
<5> phoenixX, are you using ati drivers from portage
<3> matrox++
<14> how do i add modules for loopback? o_O
<13> Baeaeken, it's in kernel
<2> rommel, no, the only things I have done in relation to the card are support in the kernel and x is configured for Radeon
<0> Motivated: cant u start the desktop with an livecd, and then do a lspci?
<7> meeseontheleese, cool, ok thx :)
<14> yoruichi: well, it says i don't have the modules for loopback :S
<3> phoenixX: glxinfo|grep -i direct
<4> GentleGiant, I am trying to run gentoo on my laptop, but it being my only pc I cant just throw it on here until I know my card will work
<11> anyone know how to fix an "error 13" from GRUB?
<1> mike_d if you want an idea, grab yourself an iso of elive, its a debian based enlightenment live cd, itll give you an idea, thats what Im basing some of my knowledge off of
<13> Baeaeken, just enable loopback device in kernel and remake ?
<3> Motivated: no big deal, if it does not work, just use console
<5> phoenixX, ok i think your issue is X not the io of your disk.... maybe look over gentoo-wiki.com and search for ati driver setup .... possibly gentoo.org has a doc for it too
<5> mbishop, you still on?
<4> GentleGiant, 2005.1 is the last version I have tried so i am hoping the bug gets resolved or someone knows the fix :)
<2> brianw, do I need to execute that in kde?
<0> Motivated: try the LFS livecd, or RIP, the installation will be different
<3> phoenixX: in an xterm
<2> ok
<5> phoenixX, thats to test io... it isnt going to help you any
<5> oh... my bad... glx info... but he has none...
<3> phoenixX: no the glxinfo line i want him to exec
<5> yeah sorry... missed that one
<2> rommel, brianw, in console mode it says Unable to open display (null)
<3> phoenixX: i said in an xterm
<3> phoenixX: not a vt
<0> Motivated: LFS livecd is what i suppose
<5> phoenixX, no not console... from konsole in X
<2> brianw, one sec, I need to specify the right keyboard >_<
<15> rommel i pm'ed you
<16> Is there a way to see what block devices are attached to my system, mounted or unmounted? I want to see how many usb storage devices are attached and their /dev point so I can mount them.
<13> TheCool: cat /proc/partitions ?
<3> TheCool: if you have udev setup right, just ls /dev/sd*
<7> TheCool, ls /sys/devices
<16> brianw: I guess I don't have it setup right cause there are like 20 /dev/sd devices listed
<17> I had my fbsplash working just how I wanted it with an initrd - it would fade in after grub immediately - but I just upgraded to 2.6.15 and now it doesn't show the initial splash (I don't think the initrd is working) - i compiled with all the same options as 2.6.14 - any ideas?
<13> aegray: umm, do you have /dev/fb0 ?
<17> yea
<7> TheCool, you could also vim/nano /proc/bus/usb/devices
<16> yoruichi: Your method worked exactly as I was looking for.
<13> TheCool: ah, glad to hear that ;)
<16> mike_d: You pointed me in a direction that I like. It gives me more details for what I have attached to my system.
<0> aegray: did you made your initrd manually? then i think you have to do that again
<17> k
<16> Is vfat for both fat16 and fat32?
<13> fat16 is fat iirc
<18> Hi. I have a strange problem. At seemingly random times, gnome will not let me open certain applications. The windows come up, but it has nothing in it, and is even missing the top level menus, such as file,edit,view, etc... If I restart X, then it often will not completely load gnome. I usually have to reboot to get it working again. Anyone seen this before?
<0> get kde :P
<16> USB memory sticks are fat16, aren't they?
<3> TheCool: depends
<2> brianw, I'll need to figure out my keyboard problem first, cause the | doesn't work. But what about the drivers in portage that rommel mentioned?
<3> phoenixX: i have never used ati
<16> Is there a way to find out what format the partitions are on a device?
<7> TheCool, fdisk
<3> TheCool: fdisk -l perhaps
<19> Hey all, Im having a seriosuly wierd problem with my /boot partiton
<5> phoenixX, http://gentoo-wiki.com/Ati
<7> carl_1, is your boot partition liste as bootable?
<19> I can boot fine, grub reads the stuff in /boot etc. etc. but once I get booted I do a ls /boot and it lists bzImage, and a folder listed as boot, the folder /boot/boot has the same thing
<17> thanks for the help
<3> carl_1: that is fi ne
<18> TheCool, My USB memory sticks are often mounted as "vfat"
<7> carl_1, that is normal, grub has a circular file system
<16> brianw: That worked perfect. And it ****s. I take it mount can't really tell the difference between fat16 and fat32. I mounted the stick with vfat but fdisk says its a fat16 device. Good thing I haven't written anything yet.
<19> brianw: I cant change my bzImage though, grub reads the same one
<16> ki4cgp: But vfat is fat32, right?
<3> TheCool: vfat works for all fat
<0> carl_1: i think boot is not mountet, then u got that cycle
<16> Ahh, ok, cool. I was worried there for a minute.
<19> GentleGiant: Ahh possible
<18> TheCool, I'm not sure. I was thinking it was a common mounting scheme, and could handle both
<7> carl_1, that's done in /boot/grub/grub.conf
<19> aha! umount /boot /boot: not mounted
<19> thanks all
<0> np
<20> hey guys there a good source for the lxnay RR4 cd's or so?
<13> c14n: download source ?
<7> huh?
<0> RIP
<20> yeah, the only mirrors for his livecd take like 34hr+
<20> lol
<0> c14n: take RIP and you are done
<20> RIP?
<21> c14n: linuxtracker.org
<20> arbiter_dev: that torrent is dead
<20> i can't connect to one single seed
<21> then so are your hopes and dreams
<13> lol
<0> c14n: recovery is possible
<20> not really
<21> it's also a liveDVD so it will take forever no matter what source you find
<20> GentleGiant: thanks for the suggestion
<22> anyone ever get FreeNX to work on gentoo with resumable sessions?
<23> Why doesn't chatzilla exist in portage?
<20> VxJasonxV: cause it's a module for firefox not an independent application
<20> GentleGiant: http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/looplinux/rip/ <-- that?
<0> c14n: dont know how u cam to that link, but seems fine
<23> oh, I didn't know that
<23> modules for firefox/thunderbird (either or) right?
<20> GentleGiant: you have another link?
<17> hmm regenning the initrd didn't work
<22> anyone ever get FreeNX to work on gentoo with resumable sessions?
<21> don't repeat while your first question is still visible
<0> c14n: no :) dont know where i got mine from
<18> Hi. I have a strange problem. At seemingly random times, gnome will not let me open certain applications. The windows come up, but it has nothing in it, and is even missing the top level menus, such as file,edit,view, etc... If I restart X, then it often will not completely load gnome. I usually have to reboot to get it working again. Has anyone had this before?
<20> probably distrowatch
<7> ki4cgp, /tmp dir full?
<18> mike_d, I'll look
<0> c14n: i thought there have their own site :)
<21> c14n: which RR4 iso are you trying to get?
<20> arbiter_dev: the DVD, might just go with the 2.65.1 or a livecd, not sure. I just need to migrate some stuff from a corrupted FS to a good drive, fix somet stuff.
<20> RIP seems like a good deal
<18> mike_d, /tmp is part of / and still has gigs free
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