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<0> ok
<1> infohawk: i considered Ubuntu, and tried it on another box.. but it woudln't play my MP3s!
<2> infohawk, would you use a gentoo/binary package hybrid?
<2> ironfroggy, mplayer
<3> ironfroggy: solution is easy, once you set up all correctly -don't touch it- anymore! just update for security fixes... there is no real gain in updating world everyday... I do it once a year :)
<4> which kde -meta would install kopete?
<5> I might add as well if it is a big issue you could always take time and learn to code if you don't already and solve your own desire that way :)
<6> waxbolt: yeah. I just want to install xorg and gnome without waiting too long.
<2> Shirakawasuna, that's what the firefox command runs
<7> dli, See the Gentoo docs for how to find that.
<0> ok
<1> Using gentoo just keeps me close enough to the low-levels oft he system to be reminded of how frustrated and angry i am over the state of package management in general.
<2> infohawk, i'm in the same place. there are some binary packages, but they tend to be out of date.
<8> dli: kdenetwork
<4> notben_, thanks
<2> ironfroggy, have you done LFS?
<1> I'm ready for a Standard Software Package format!
<8> dli: if you open the ebuild itself, look at the KMNAME variable, it tells which metapkg its a part of
<9> sredojevics, how do you keep track of available security fixes? glsa's only? Or have you got a special web adress?
<7> dli, http://pastebin.com/572508
<8> .. for future reference
<1> waxbolt: i dont have time for gentoo anymore, think ive got time for LFS?
<0> what the....
<6> waxbolt: yeah the utoto packages seem fairly old. Do you know of any other binary sources / repositories?
<0> can someone resolve google.com for me and give me the ip?
<4> notben_, great
<2> ironfroggy, well, it shure puts things in perspective
<9> Shirakawasuna, 66.249.93.99
<0> for some reason I can't connect to anything w/ a name, and I don't have any ips off-hand to ping
<1> I just want a single file format that I can download from a site and use whatever it is it has.
<10> notben_: it's trying to merge on xterm for some reason but xterm is at the same "level" as php (ie not a child of it).
<0> micmac: thanks
<0> it's the nameserver...
<2> ironfroggy, the cleanest running system i ever had was from scratch. if i never had to change it i would have been happy... but in the end i did
<5> Yeah..I am emerging 70 of 197 on a dual processor..it will take a while to compile gnome...oh but what freedom....heh
<9> Shirakawasuna, you got your nameserver set up in /etc/resolv.conf?
<1> programs, libraries, movies, albums, i dont care. just WORK. there is no excuse except uncooperative people.
<0> micmac: I'm setting it to the one I usually use...for some reason it was using my router
<1> freedom is nice, but its like freedom to eat a dog turd. sure, you should have that freedom, but do you really want to excersize it?
<3> micmac: "by hand" unfortunately :( and use glsa but I plan to write something better :)
<0> which uses qwest....and qwest has horrible nameservres
<8> fatpelt: pastebin your whole emerge -tpv php output if you can, we can probably tell you which flag is the culprit
<0> thanks, micmac
<11> night
<12> Shrakawasuna: Dumb question, but did you enter IP in /etc/resolv.conf?
<5> waxbolt: What really freaked me out was after installing gentoo PPC32 and compiling the kernel..I typed lsmod and damn there was nothing there...first time I have ever seen that...
<9> Shirakawasuna, maybe your router doesn't know where the DNS servers are at?
<0> micmac: I think qwest just has horrible DNS servers
<2> zarephath, did you turn on module autoloading?
<0> micmac: I'm using a public one now, and I've never had problems with it
<0> micmac: thanks a lot for the ip :) gotta go now!
<10> notben_: http://pastebin.com/572511
<12> Shirakawasuna: Try mine ---> 207.69.188.187 and 207.69.188.186
<9> sredojevics, I use glsa's, too. But they come often a little late.
<9> np
<5> waxbolt: I did..however I could not get it to boot with the sound drivers compiling static...we could not figure it out...finally I just enable it and set the sound back to module :)
<13> !Help
<13> !herd
<14> ^usuario: Perhaps I'm malfunctioning?
<15> anyone wanna give me some help with RAID1 partitioning?
<13> yes
<3> micmac: didn't know that, scary...
<13> yes
<6> waxbolt: which repository are you using for binaries?
<16> -uDav
<7> Is flex-2.5.33 newer than 2.5.4a-r6? Portage want to update flex.
<2> infohawk, i'm actually just getting into that... chinstrap
<16> eep, that was to go in #gentoo-uk
<9> sredojevics, well, I guess it's our own fault because we should be the ones filing glsa's :]
<2> infohawk, not enough experience. i just did an all-compile system update. hopefully i can save some time with bin-installs in the future
<5> Just thought of something I wanted to learn...I found out that it is necessary on PPC to run Xorgautoconfig to get it to run X correctly...anyone know what the diff is between it and doing xorgconfig?
<6> waxbolt: guess I'll compile too. Chinstrap doesn't seem to work for amd64
<17> i just fried 5 8000mcd blue leds like that :'(
<2> infohawk, yep. it seems silly when there are hundreds, thousands of other amd64 ppl out there, compiling up a storm
<18> I can't login to KDE no more :'(
<6> The wikipedia entry for gentoo says you can get binaries by adding -bin to a package name, but this doesn't seem to work.
<7> Death_Wish, Bad luck. Maybe some "gnome virus" ;)
<2> for a desktop system, what's better... voluntary preempt or "preemptible kernel"? are there significant costs for the full preemption?
<18> no when i switch from kdm to xdm thats when i never was able to see kde no more
<7> waxbolt, voluntary preempt
<5> waxbolt, infohawk: Mind if I ask what the discussion is about with AMD 64? Reason I ask is that I am going to convert my only AMD64 box to gentoo...and want to make sure I know if there are problems I need to be aware of..
<3> micmac: you are right; I have reported one sec. bug at bugs.gentoo.org sometime ago that I noticed watching specialized mailing list, it was jabber related, if all do the same gentoo would be very nice distro, it is already to be honest :)
<19> is there a problem with compiling e17 for amd64 >?
<7> zarephath, AMD64 + ati-drivers = hard reset.
<2> infohawk, it works for some of the bigger packages. i don't know why we haven't been putting in more... if server space is an issue, i'm sure we can all scrounge together a few hundred megs each and host all kinds of binaries in a distributed form
<16> to update the portage tree
<20> waxbolt: if you want maximum interactivity, use "preempt the big kernel lock"
<16> to update portage it would be emerge -uav portage
<6> zarephath: I'm looking for AMD64 binaries right now. There are a lot of issues for amd64 (not just limited to gentoo or even linux) if you want to have a desktop box.
<7> zarephath, See also: #gentoo-amd64
<17> infohawk, emerge <packagename> -G
<18> can someone help me :'(
<18> i want kde back
<3> how is installer doing these days, will it be included into 2006.0?
<21> there is a gentoo INSTALLER?
<17> Death_Wish, forgot yer uname/pwd?
<2> Death_Wish, have you thought about trying screen??
<18> no
<17> BanditZa, yeah :S
<22> BanditZa: yes
<22> #gentoo-installer
<5> +AnMaster: That is definitely an issue for me since I have those two items...thanks for the heads up people..I will definitely join amd64!
<2> Death_Wish, broken compile?
<7> Death_Wish, Change it back in /etc/rc.conf
<17> rsk, scarey isnt it
<18> it gives me grey login screen then boots into a gray environment
<21> oh my word i WISH someone told me this earlier
<21> :P
<18> i changed it back but it still does it
<7> zarephath, I can't get my ATI card working. :(
<23> notben - removing /etc/asound.state and rebooting the box didn't help with the "/dev/mixer does not exist....." message. Didn't seem to harm anything, and the new version of the file is about half the size of the original. :)
<17> Death_Wish thats prolly gdm or xdm
<6> thisbullet: thanks. I saw that. But I can't find any repositories. I'm gonna check out #gentoo-amd64
<17> infohawk, sounds like a plan :)
<18> i have switched from kdm to xdm then i got the gray matter
<16> Death_Wish: use kdm, then
<18> and when i went back to default its still does it
<5> +AnMaster: That is a bummer!
<18> i even did rc-update add kdm default but it says its already at default
<17> Death_Wish, su then /etc/init.d/xdm stop
<4> Death_Wish, use xdm!!!
<16> they might have an old version of portage
<7> zarephath, What? Me having to pull out the powercable after startx?
<4> Death_Wish, and vi /etc/rc.conf
<17> Death_Wish, then man xdm
<5> heh
<5> gotta run...bbl...
<18> ok ill try that and brb im in windows right now
<24> Is there an easy way of telling what device your USB runs off of? Mine runs on /dev/sda1, but that isn't working for my brother
<25> lsusb, perhaps
<16> tezyn: check /var/log/messages
<4> any tool to check bad blocks of a hard drive?
<7> dli: badblocks
<26> weird glibc compile error: http://pastebin.com/572532 any ideas?
<4> AnMaster, thanks
<7> dli, But better use fsck as it fixes info on block size for you
<4> AnMaster, which fsck has good bad block support?
<7> |SMD|Buttsecks, Check you CFLAGS and LDFLAGS.
<7> dli ext2 and ext3.
<26> AnMaster: can you tell me what they need to be set to?
<7> dli, Maybe resierfs too.
<20> butt*** ! hi
<26> hey adaptr
<13> !hi
<13> ! hi
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