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<0> rastejante, what arch do you have?
<1> marienz, it's gcc 3.3.6 i think
<2> Klekot, sparc64
<3> roger55: what do you mean?
<4> ViennaL, I mean that you have zero two in make.conf but don't see it.
<3> no why? all other emerge commands use -O3 .. and its O not zero!
<5> i'm not familiar with an intird. if someone gave me one and I wanted to "mount" it or unpack it or otherwise get to it's contents, what would i need to do?
<6> emerge needs a progress bar or time remaining or something.
<3> hopala .. roger55 ... i mean everything is -03 but bootstrapping is -O2 and i dont know why
<7> raccoontail: odd. I do see it mentioned in the build system, but I don't see where it checks if the flag is supported by your gcc version (yet, not sure how this build system file works). As a workaround disabling glibc-omitfp will probably make it build.
<4> it's not meant to be zero-three either
<4> ViennaL, show me your CFLAGS (pasted from make.conf)
<8> eduedix: who cares? mr. Robbins can do whatever he want with his life...
<1> marienz, how do i disable that? sorry, i'm not that good at this
<9> hmm?
<10> is there a way to write dmesg output to a text file, or to require the shell to need keyboard input to scroll?



<3> roger55: give me a second ...
<7> raccoontail: it's a USE flag (affecting only the glibc ebuild)
<7> raccoontail: add -glibc-omitfp to USE in make.conf or use /etc/portage/package.use if you prefer.
<4> Kakihara, dmesg|less or dmesg > dmesgfile
<4> Kakihara, or shift-PgUp
<8> Kakihara: dmesg | less or dmesg > dmesg.txt
<1> htanks marienz! i'll give that a try :)
<3> roger55: CFLAGS="-O3 -march=pentium4 -pipe"
<4> ViennaL, did you paste that?
<10> lmao why didn't I think of Shift + pgUp - thanks
<3> roger55: and it works this way ... but the bootstrap.sh script does it with -pipe and -O2
<10> thanks linuxblues & roger55
<8> np
<3> roger55: yes i copy and pastet it
<3> pasted
<4> ViennaL, then something probably strips your cflags.
<11> LinuxBlues, i just asked...
<12> I just got an errror from a gcc emerge, when I was doing emerge -NuD world
<11> LinuxBlues, everybody is free...
<8> ok ok
<3> roger55: i think bootstrapping script overrules it but inside the skript i cant find something
<13> toolchain is glibc binutils and gcc eh?
<4> ViennaL, if it does, there sure is a reason to it.
<3> roger55: does it really matter if bootstrapping with -O2 or -O3
<3> roger55: i think so too ...
<4> ViennaL, I bet you cannot tell a difference.
<14> does it matter in what order the entries are listed in the fstab file?
<3> roger55: do you use -O2 oder -O3 ?
<4> -O2
<7> more likely the ebuilds bootstrap is running strip it than bootstrap itself
<3> RNHy: I think it dows
<14> whats the max -Ox you can use (doesnt matter if its safe or stable)
<3> RNHy: the higher .. the earlier
<3> RNHy: -O3
<8> RNHy: -O3
<14> okay tanx
<8> RNHy: gcc "translates" -O4 and above to O3
<14> oh
<15> how do I force portage to d/l the kernel-source-2.6.13-r# ?
<16> evening people
<3> can you convert a reiserfs 3.6 to reiser4 without loosing data?
<8> RNHy: mplayer uses -O4 by default, but -Os is the best one IMHO
<16> whats the best ftp server for gentoo ?
<4> Kury, emerge -f =gentoo-sources-2.6.13-r#
<17> how do i turn off caps lock entirely
<3> LinuxBlues: size optimized ? why?
<18> LinuxBlues: -O4 ?
<14> -Os, what does that do?
<4> Kury, not sure they are on the mirrors still.
<3> size opitmized
<15> roger55: I hope so.. v2.6.15 is causing me problems..
<19> -Os is very fast compiling the stuff, but very slow running it
<8> ViennaL: and RNHy: the smallest binary and it loads faster than another -Ox one
<4> Kury, what problems?
<17> how do i turn off caps lock entirely
<15> roger55: just a sec..
<17> can't find it on the wiki
<3> LinuxBlues: you mean programmstartup is fast but running proigramm is slower
<20> patrik_mrx: if in x it would be something in xorg.conf
<17> wide-eye, that i know, i just do not know what to write
<8> ViennaL: I mean everything is faster as it reduces as much as possible the code of the binary



<14> i see a debate coming
<20> patrik_mrx: like the swap-caps-ctrl option
<3> LinuxBlues: i dont think so?
<21> if I wanted to update "ndiswrapper," would I do "emerge -u ndiswrapper" ? When I do a "emerge -pu ndiswrapper" it only lists ndiswrapper-1.2 but the latest is like 1.8 or 1.10 ...
<15> roger55: http://pastebin.com/573741
<22> I still use Samba if i want to be on a windows workgroup?
<8> ViennaL: so test it for yourself
<22> This linux computer has no printer but wants to use a windows one on the network
<20> patrik_mrx: man xorg.conf ?
<3> LinuxBlues: emtpy tree would take to long ... maybe for firefox or something?
<17> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_X11_Keyboard is the only one i find, and i can't figure it out
<4> Kury, it can't find the firmware?
<8> ViennaL: latest stage3 include Os by default ;-)
<17> wide-eye, i'll give it a try
<8> ViennaL: some programs such as firefox filter it
<15> roger55: ya aparently... I haven't been able to figure out why though..
<4> Kury, put it in /lib/firmware/
<8> ViennaL: and add O2 instead
<23> is there a special chost flag for a semperon CPU?
<17> wide-eye, caps is not mentioned in man xorg.conf
<23> or will i686 suffice
<4> Kury, or check bugs.gentoo.org maybe you need a higher version ov ivtv?
<15> roger55: in addition to this problem.. I'v also found that I can't enable LVM (compiled in or as a module) in the kernel.. without loosing functionality of my 2nd IDE controler..
<21> i686 will work but you may not get all optimizations ..
<8> |Xaero|: a 64bit extensions sempron?
<15> roger55: I've tried 3 different version, and I get the same error for all three of them.. :(
<23> LinuxBlues -> yes it is
<3> LinuxBlues: intresting
<3> LinuxBlues: your whole system is -Os ?
<4> ModelNine, if you ever want to say something on topic ask #gentoo-ops for voice.
<8> |Xaero|: add x86_64-pc-linux-gnu instead
<23> LinuxBlues ->ok
<22> im following the samba quick guide on gentoo.org, what do i omit from smb.conf if this computer doesn't have a printer but wants to use a workgroup winow's printer
<8> ViennaL: yes except the packages that filter it, openoffice, firefox and so on
<20> patrik_mrx: Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps"
<24> could anyone help me?
<23> LinuxBlues -> what about for mcpu ?
<17> wide-eye, will that not make my caps lock into a control key?
<3> who else uses -Os ???
<23> or -march?
<4> ricer-time
<8> |Xaero|: mcpu is deprecated, mtune instead, I only use march anyway
<20> patrik_mrx: that option is Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps"
<20> patrik_mrx: so no
<17> ah
<8> roger55: lol
<24> if I have Intel Celeron 1.7GhZ do I take the x86 installation cd?
<20> patrik_mrx: as seen on http://www.google.com/search?q=XkbOptions
<23> LinuxBlues -> ok so -mtune -march, but what values ? same string?
<23> Sider ->yes
<24> k thx
<25> LinuxBlues: however, current installations will still initially use gcc-3.3 which will not recognise -mtune. conversely, gcc-3.4 will recognise -mcpu (which, although it has been deprecated, has not yet been removed)
<25> LinuxBlues: so new users need to be careful ;)
<24> Is it hard to install if i'm not familiar with linux? :\
<8> kerframil: wrong, gcc 3.3 recognized mtune perfectly
<20> kerframil: are there 3.4 tarballs around?
<21> Sider, yep
<25> LinuxBlues: hmm, really?
<24> aww
<23> kerframil ->so what do I do in my case (I'm confused now)
<8> kerframil: sure :-)
<20> s/tarballs/stages/
<25> wide-eye: no official ones, no
<21> but it might make you more familiar =)
<24> yeah its a fact
<17> wide-eye, thx, i'll give it a try
<24> is there any easy to use linux version?
<21> hell, i am familiar with Linux and its not stealing candy from a baby for me either
<21> fedora, ubuntu, and a few others
<4> Sider, if you want an easy installation try ubuntu, kubuntu or suse.
<26> how do i give permission for a user to run nice with high priority


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