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<0> mbishop, heh
<1> basically EVERY window manager does it
<1> except metacity -_-
<1> snap, spb is here, shhhhh!
<2> i prefer ion3
<2> really snappy and no window decorations
<1> I like ion3
<1> it's uber productive
<2> i cant argue with that ;)
<3> i have trouble being productive on linux... so much to play with theres no time to work ;)
<4> roger55: do you know if not setting the dri USE flag would have affected this ?
<5> hi
<1> slackgen: are you new to linux? once you've used it for a while there's nothing left to do but code :P
<6> [;
<3> mbishop: ive been using it full time when i can for about 8 months



<5> can I mount a readonlly filesystem as nfsroot ?
<7> gnome for home, console for work :)
<3> mbishop: still learn stuff every day
<6> kos__: gnome is deprecated :)
<1> slackgen: I started in 1999, started using it full time in 2001 or so :\
<3> mbishop: i find the subtle differences between the distros interesting, ive gone throguh about 12 distros int he last month or two
<7> i dont see why there has to be so many distros
<1> I've used a handful, most just annoy me
<7> its a waste of developers
<3> ive only used about three that i actually stayed with for over a day
<8> to set the default runlevel in /etc/inittab, do i just change the number in: id:3:initdefault: ?
<1> any distro that doesn't install gcc and kernel sources really isn't worth using heh
<3> slackware, gentoo, and debian-unstable
<8> the handbook avoids the issue
<7> ive only ever given slackware and gentoo over 5hours
<3> wide-eye: yes
<8> slackgen: k thx
<3> wide-eye: change the 3 to the one you want
<3> kos__: what do you mean?
<9> anyone knows why is gentoo-portage so slow at adopting newer versions?
<0> tie_, what do you mean?
<9> I had to manually isntall SQLite and pysqlite because in portage they were too old
<10> tie_, cause some1 has to create ebuilds for these newer versions and put them there? thats my guess.
<9> KDE 3.5 is also not present in portage I think
<8> has anyone seen or made a livecd boot over the net, ie pxe, nfsroot etc?
<10> tie_, kde 3.5 has been in portage for a while now
<11> tie_: the latest version of pysqlite is in portage afaik (~arch masked though)
<0> tie_, you haven't read any docs on using portage I guess.
<9> klingon: you are correct but FreeBSD are much faster in my experience
<11> tie_: you probably need to read up on masked packages. Try the following:
<0> tie_, I'm running kde 3.5.1
<11> mzbot: gentoo tie_ mixing software branches
<12> tie_: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3&chap=3
<13> splash_geninitramfs dosn't show the splash until after activating swap
<9> thanks for the doc
<0> tie_, you can check versions of packages at packages.gentoo.org or gentoo-portage.com
<9> hmm didn't know there was a web interface
<14> Does anyone know if there is any reason I should have support for /proc/kcore in a server?
<15> is there any tool/program to check all broken symlinks on a filesystem, I have a bunch of broken symlinks on my Projetcs folder, and I need a tool to find them...
<5> can I mount a readonlly filesystem as NFSroot ?
<16> drew_kay: not really, and I don't either
<17> does anyone know a WLAN chipset that has a linux-driver with working power-management?
<14> drac: Thanks, I'm just in the process of tweaking my grsec kernel & with the in place /dev/kmem & /dev/mem restrictions it seemed sorta pointless.
<18> Is it okay to delete /usr/portage/distfiles ? It's 1.8G!
<2> deadaim: yes
<18> rsk: ok thank you! :)
<15> deadaim: yes if you're not using dial-up
<18> LinuxBlues: I'm not :)
<15> :-) deadaim rm -rf /var/tmp/portage/* too
<15> (if you aren't compiling right now)
<18> LinuxBlues: I just did "cd /usr/portage/distfile" "rm *"
<18> LinuxBlues: should I remove the folder cvs-src ?
<3> can you use distcc to compile the kernel during installation?
<15> deadaim: use eclean
<18> LinuxBlues: I don't have that command
<19> can I please ask a p2p question....?
<20> on a remote PC, the user is not able to print from a USB printer via CUPS. Is localhost:613 alwasy accessible even if network is not available due to Dial-up?
<19> anybody familiar w/ valknut
<20> I was able to before. Any help, please?
<15> deadaim: I have an alias to rm -rf /usr/portage/distfiles/* && rm -rf /var/tmp/portage/* in root's .bashrc you need to copy all the files like .bash_profile from /etc/skel/ to make it work though
<3> or a better question: how can you make all things compiled from portage use distcc?



<15> deadaim: I meant cp /etc/skel/* /root/ edit .bashrc and add an alias ;-)
<21> damn i downgraded from xorg 7 to xorg 6.8 and now now 32bit app is working they all segfault :(
<21> anyone experienced same thing
<18> LinuxBlues: I can also delete /var/tmp/portage?
<15> deadaim: yes, if you aren't emerging any program right now
<14> slackgen: ***uming it's emerged and setup correctly, just make sure the following line in in /etc/make.conf exists: FEATURES="distcc"
<22> Where is the world cl*** stored?
<3> drew_kay: thanks
<23> are their any pure kde multi-protocal chat clients that don't use GTK?
<21> kopete
<23> PhanLordIRC: it uses gtk ... according to 'emerge --pretend kde-base/kopete'
<21> it shoudlnt be using gtk its part of kde
<15> Jessica1: you mean /var/lib/portage/world ?
<14> slackgen: If you have ccache emerged place it there as well. Mine looks like this: FEATURES="distcc ccache"
<21> if kde uses gtk then koete uses gtk
<3> drew_kay: where should i set DISTCC_HOSTS?
<23> gtk+ is one of the libs emerge wants to merge for kopete
<23> kde uses qt, last I checked ...
<22> LinuxBlues I believe that's preciecely what I mean.
<21> yeha thats why kopete is not using gtk
<15> ok
<21> maybe some other depndency wants gtk
<21> add -gtk in make.conf
<23> [ebuild NS ] x11-libs/gtk+-1.2.10-r11 <-- that means it wants to merge gtk+ ... no ?
<21> what is the whole list
<23> -gtk -gnome are in my use flags in make.conf
<3> drew_kay: or in that part of setting up gtk
<15> zoul: disable gtk2 too
<23> http://rafb.net/paste/results/FIjnty67.html
<3> drew_kay: or in that part of setting up ***distcc
<21> ther eis something else that is trying to get gtk and specially the old gtk, which koete definelty wouldnt use
<23> -gtk2 ... still has gtk+
<14> slackgen: You mean which hosts should your local copy of distcc contact to compile?
<15> zoul: and? so -gtk2 -gtk
<19> can anybody help me with valknut....?
<23> LinuxBlues: -gtk2 -gtk -gnome are in my make.conf
<3> drew_kay: yes, i havent set up distcc on my gentoo box yet but on slackware you did export DISTCC_HOSTS=192.168.1.1/24 then make CC=distcc
<24> Here's a weirdo issue with portage and kde. I'm trying to get rid of KDE completely (and perhaps start fresh). I've got kdelibs-2.2.2 and cannot get rid of it. emerge -aC kdelibs shows selected: 3.0.5a 3.4.3-r1 2.2.2-r4 3.0.2 3.3.2-r9 3.1.4 3.2.3-r2 and it chokes on 2.2.2 with inheritence issues. Advice on whacking this manually? Can't figure it out from forums.
<3> drew_kay: where do i set to use those hosts?
<14> remote hosts should be listed in: /etc/distcc/hosts with them all on one line in order of priority.
<3> thanks
<23> ahh, it must have been the xmms stuff ...
<15> zoul: use emerge -vpt whatever_you_were_trying_to_emerge to get a list of deps
<23> USE="-xmms" emerge --pretend kde-base/kopete
<23> just shows kopete ;)
<25> whats going on with portage??? i keep getting make errors when updating world lately
<25> !!! ERROR: app-emulation/wine-0.9.8-r1 failed.
<25> Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1928: Called dyn_compile
<23> apparently xmms requires gtk ...
<25> zoul: use noxmms for gtk free
<26> a little doubt - from stage 2, after of run emerge -e system, is necessary run source /etc/profile; etc-update?
<23> loopy: noxmms?
<24> Actually, it might be choking on 3.0.5a first...
<25> zoul: noxmms = cli gui bloat free app
<14> slackgen: emerge automatically uses distcc once you add the features line in make.conf
<21> zoul yeah xmms uses gtk 1 and xmms2 uses gtk2
<15> BleSS: stage2 isn't supported anymore, so you're on your own...
<27> # Compile with these changes:
<27> # - makefile without -DETSI
<0> BleSS, etc-update yes
<23> hrm ...
<26> LinuxBlues, yes, i know it, anyway i follow compiling my system from stage1 without any problem
<26> roger55, thanks
<25> anyone else having problems with emerge -uD world?
<23> there a nice alternative to xmms that's similiar ... with skinning ... not one of those flaky 'media player' like players?
<25> first it was the time zone data that failed to compile, now it's wine
<0> loopy, I've seen someone today who had the same problem, check bugs.gentoo.org
<2> zoul: beep-media-player
<27> help me
<27> # Compile with these changes:
<27> # - makefile without -DETSI
<0> lizz, what are you talking about?
<27> hello roger55
<25> roger55: ok


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