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<0> AllanonJL, I think I know what the problem is, but right now I'm in the middle of an emerge kde-meta
<1> necrocyde: ahh, lol
<2> Tdr: Uh? Why's that?
<3> _bart_: the closest I've gotten to figuring that out is the multimedia systems selector...and no matter what I do, I get clicks
<4> Azoff Now are you a gnome expert?
<5> Shirakawasuna, no not that one
<4> Azoff I just came back to Gentoo on my PC after like 1 year of Windows domination heh
<5> Shirakawasuna, grrr I am not on gnome now... but gnome has system sounds set up as default
<6> Capso: like i just said, they're complementary options..
<5> Shirakawasuna, there is a config pannel where you can just turn em off
<7> Capso, under DRM in charcter devices, when you pick <*> Intel 830M, 845G, 852GM, 855GM, 865G you get an option of whether to use the i830 or i915 DRM for it
<3> _bart_: I don't have a soundserver on startup set, and no system sounds set either
<1> necrocyde: gnome isn't my thing.... but I may be able to help anyway
<5> Shirakawasuna, ah ok, then Triffid_Hunter is probably on track for ya :)
<8> Shirakawasuna: is esd enabled? you don't need esound added to default to use it , only enable sound server at startup in gnome > destop > preferences
<1> necrocyde: what's your problem in gnome?
<2> Tdr: Yeah.
<9> how do you wget all the files in a dir listing? like domain.com/dir/*
<2> Tdr: I removed i830 and just added i915 as module... now compiling.
<8> Shirakawasuna: here works like a charm, gnome-light though...
<7> Capso, the dell i had used 865G and 915 was way better for it
<4> Azoff Alright I added gnome-session to my ~/.xinitrc, and now when I try to run gnome I only get some icons, no gnome panel or anything else
<3> LinuxBlues: I'm not sure if that would help
<2> Tdr: Alright, done... let's test.
<2> Triffid_Hunter: Now testing.
<8> Shirakawasuna: just try it and logout-login
<7> Capso, if it hangs, you should pastebing your xorg.conf
<1> necrocyde: hmm, I remember having that problem when I tested gnome and metacity some years ago
<9> wget -r does something nuts
<1> necrocyde: could you start a terminal?
<3> LinuxBlues: well, I've started esound w/out logging in or out, and it seems to be fixed...although who knows until further investigation :)
<4> Azoff Yea I created an icon to make a terminal, killed X by root, and startec xfce4
<3> LinuxBlues: so far it looks good though, thanks!
<4> Azoff I thought maybe adding gnome-panel and all of gnome's pieces to my ~.xinitrc would work, actually haven't gotten around to trying that yet though eheh
<2> Tdr, Triffid_Hunter, LinuxBlues, and Shirakawasuna: So much thanks to all you guys... it finally works! (It was i915, as TDR said, not i830 that I needed... and the HWCursor option being off from Triffid_Hunter was another good idea... much thanks!).
<8> necrocyde: Shirakawasuna perfect, disable esound and add sounserver at startup, is enough...
<2> The framerate is SO much faster now.
<8> Capso: nice, enjoy it! :-)
<3> Capso: excellent!
<7> Capso, 915 works pretty much all intel, the 830 is flakey and is (eventually) going to be removed
<1> necrocyde: no, no! just fire up a terminal and run gnome-pannel or what it's called from that, then save your session
<7> Capso, glad it works
<1> (and restart X)
<8> hmmm, sorry, -necrocyde
<4> Azoff Oooh I'll try that
<2> Tdr: Yeah, I might write a little doc. for doing this on my Site. :)
<7> Capso, that'd be cool. docs are good things
<5> just want to be sure, can I whipe /usr/portage/distfiles at any time (when not emerging of course)
<7> Capso, do you have framebuffer working on that too?
<4> Azoff right now installing warcraft 3 :D
<1> necrocyde: lamer... ohh, I mean, gamer! ;-)
<2> Tdr: You mean as in VGA?
<4> Azoff Warcraft 3 is an amazing game, and it runs perfect on wine
<5> necrocyde, do you know if Diablo II Lod works on wine ?
<7> Capso, i mean for console, as it boots up, so you're text isnt' so big and ugly
<1> necrocyde: yeah, I know.. But I like wc2 better
<3> what's the difference between boot and default runlevels?
<1> _bart_: it roks!
<2> Tdr: It's actually kind of small.
<5> Azoff, good ! time to pick up on my old addiction then :)
<10> anyone know the script to have irsii show nicks in row?
<4> _bart_ yea, Blizzard games have a knack for runnign well on wine
<2> Tdr: grub.conf contains this line: video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr
<3> perhaps it's because they're the best ever
<2> Tdr: If that's what you mean.
<7> Capso, hrm, ok. guessing it works then.. you can check by doing: dmesg | grep -i fb
<5> necrocyde, I am new to wine, hard to get it running ?
<1> _bart_: havn't had any problems running LoD under cedega atleast
<4> _bart_ I recommend getting cedega if you don't know how to run wine
<3> _bart_: you know you want to play diablo II
<7> Capso, hrm, inteffb works on that chipset too
<5> necrocyde, isnt that commercial ?
<4> _bart_ for the most part
<3> _bart_: the newer wines are very nice
<5> Shirakawasuna, I wasted over 5000 hours on that game, but enjoyed every second of it
<3> _bart_: and they tend to play blizzard games very well
<7> Caplain, if you're using regualr vesa, intelfb is better, and you can change modes after it's booted
<2> Tdr: Yeah, it works.
<3> anyone? a nice, quick question :) What's the difference between the boot and default runlevels?
<5> will look into it then gents :) soz for the OT :)
<2> Tdr: Ooh, should I change it to Intelfb?
<7> Capso, i would, but if you don't use console much it doesn't matter. video works nicer on the intelfb tho if you do that
<5> Shirakawasuna, you mean init 1,3,5 and such ?
<3> _bart_: I suppose. I mean what you see and edit with rc-update
<2> Tdr: I don't have an "intelfb" option in my "Graphics Support" menu in "Device Drivers", though... where might it be?
<3> _bart_: what the uses are for each
<7> Capso, one sec.
<3> _bart_: I'd like to add esound to one of them.....but I don't know which one would be better
<5> Shirakawasuna, oow... that has me confused too :)
<5> Shirakawasuna, checked man rc-update ?
<5> Shirakawasuna, forget that, its a bit brief
<7> Capso, under graphics, you should have <*> Intel 830M/845G/852GM/855GM/865G support
<2> Tdr: Yeah.
<2> Tdr: Enable it?
<7> Capso, turn that on and turn vesa off.
<11> Morning all.
<3> yep
<2> Tdr: Alright... thanks for all the help, I appreciate it. :)
<3> hi Cuddles_in_KY
<11> Shira!!! How's tricks?
<8> Shirakawasuna: and _bart_ I have everything hardware related in boot and everything software related in default/text...
<7> Capso, syntax in grub.conf is the same, just make it say video=intelfb instead of vesafb
<3> Cuddles_in_KY: pretty good
<3> LinuxBlues: but do you know the difference between the two?
<11> Hey Shira, know anything about PLIP?
<3> LinuxBlues: and the advantages/disadvantages?
<3> Cuddles_in_KY: never heard of it :)
<7> Shirakawasuna, stuff in boot gets loaded before it enters the runlevel
<11> :(
<11> Anyone else know about PLIP?
<12> Why does KDE tell me there is "No support for HAL on this system"
<7> klingon, do you have hal in your USE flags?
<8> Shirakawasuna: I've modified them, I have a runlevel text and default doesn't seem a default "default" now, that's why I need more stuff in boot (hardware) and default / text customized accordingly
<12> tdr, indeed
<10> ;/
<13> i think hal is a daemon
<10> sorri
<3> tdr: sorry, but what would be the default difference? I'm not entirely sure what the runlevel even is
<8> Shirakawasuna: boot starts first, default after boot
<13> maybe it has to be started
<7> klingon, maybe hald isn't started then?
<2> I love screen.
<13> me 2
<7> Shirakawasuna, boot gets the system up and running. then it enters the "default" runlevel. you can have differnt things start if you have different runlevels enabled, like LinuxBlues does.
<13> its like argubally the best program ever written
<7> Shirakawasuna, so, for example, you could have a net runlevel and a net-less one, where it doesn't start your eth0
<7> Shirakawasuna, or, you can define a runlevel where gdk or kdm starts up, and one that boots you to a console login
<10> how does one install dictionaries and thedautis for OOO?
<7> seren, openoffice uses either aspell or ispell
<10> thesautis
<8> Shirakawasuna: /etc/runlevels if you want to modify them, and edit /etc/inittab to add a text runlevel to runlevel 3 (SysV tradition)
<13> seren, emerge aspell-en
<13> change -en to whatever language you use
<7> LinuxBlues, runlevel 3 is what gets normally booted into tho, as "default"
<10> ritalin: that include thesaurus and dictionary?
<14> someone from moscow?
<13> im not sure
<13> touch, russians
<8> tdr: well, I use X by default, so my default is runlevel 5, ok
<7> seren, that's the dictionary backend, then you add aspell-en or whatever for your language
<14> ritalin, russians who?
<14> :)
<13> heh
<7> LinuxBlues, yeah, that's "normal" (the way other distros do it)
<10> any gusses how long it wil take to build ooo 2.0.1?
<13> I just learned about russia in school!
<8> tdr: sorry, but I've configured it and considered my defaults everybody's defaults sorry
<14> yeah, me too :)
<13> cool
<10> p4 2.53 1gb ram
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