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<0> I got a desktop in 30 minutes
<1> i quit the installer after it had all the essentials installed
<0> why'd you quit ?
<1> i had to fix something in the bios
<1> it was running VERY slow
<2> e2fsprogs
<1> it would have taken weeks to finish the install
<0> so what are you doing a stage 1 install ?
<1> so i did stage 3
<3> I'm getting a problem with k3b + gentoo. Whenever I open it, it immediately gives me a "malformed URL: file://home/nick" error
<0> ahh ok
<0> well if you use the gui it makes it quicker
<1> it was just running really really slow
<4> Shirakawasuna: sorry for being rude earlier, i was stressed^^
<0> I used the gui and did a GRP install
<1> maybe ill do that
<3> after this error, the mouse is a constant 'working' icon and I can't browse using the built-in browser. Furthermore, it doesn't recognize mime types
<3> AndrewMac: no worries
<3> AndrewMac: I don't take anything in here personally :)
<5> Is it a bad idea to set ~x86 in the make.conf file?
<3> fholmes: yes
<0> yes
<1> last time i installed gentoo on my computer it took like 30 hours
<4> Shirakawasuna: lol good
<3> fholmes: only if you don't want to spend a lot more time keeping your system working
<4> Shirakawasuna: one thing, can you look at the build error i get and see if you know what it means?
<0> ~x86 is for testing beta versions basicly
<3> andrew_: the installer is version .3, I believe, so using the cli install is still better
<0> Shirakawasuna, I used the gui and had no trouble
<5> So I should set it specifically for packages who need it.
<3> andrew_: imo, using the graphical installer is more of a testing kind of thing....as in you test it out and report a bug for the benefit of the community
<1> yea i used the gui on this computer and no problems at al
<3> ah, good :)
<5> So basically if I have to ask the question, I should not be using it in the make.conf file. :-)
<3> sometimes the installer just dies on people
<1> well i guess ill just start the gui installer over again
<3> fholmes: feel free to ask in here
<1> it should be done in the morning
<1> right?
<3> fholmes: I can get you a nice happy make.conf ;)
<6> which morning?
<5> Oh I don't have a problem asking. :-)
<1> if i just install kde and xorg-x11 vim and some other essentials
<0> naww you can have a desktop in a reasonable amoount of time
<3> andrew_: I recommend split ebuilds for the kde installation
<0> andrew_, what kind of system ?
<5> shir: I would love to see your USE= line. :-)
<1> p4 3ghz
<7> Distro^Junkie, linux is a ongoing beta, like every other peace of software ;)
<1> 1024 mb ram
<3> andrew_: kde 4 isn't going to have monolithic ebuilds, e.g. kdemultimedia
<3> andrew_: yes it will be done within 8-ish hours
<0> give it 30 minutes to a gnome desktop andrew_
<1> ok ill jsut do that since ill just be sleeping
<0> then about 6 hours to emerge world
<3> andrew_: gnome would be faster due to the fact that it's prepackaged....but I hear KDE is going to come in the same form in the future :)
<3> making a KDE gentoo installation a 4-hour deal, average :)
<0> I'll love that
<8> hi there, a while ago I was using cinelerra to do an anime music video and noticed that the synchronization was horrible after a render. it was perfect when playing from the program though.
<3> fholmes: sure thing
<8> does anyone know how to fix that or why it may have happened?
<5> yea!
<3> fholmes: I run a KDE system - do you plan on running KDE?
<5> No, but I can take that out.
<5> -kde -qt :-)
<0> I'm a kde user
<5> Unless there are any I am missing...
<3> fholmes: yep. remove my kde and qt lines...as well as arts if it's in there
<5> ok cool.
<8> anyone???
<0> 1 more file to emerge then i can switch to kde
<9> omega21: probably best to take that up w/ the cinarella people
<4> Shirakawasuna: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-464688-highlight-.html can you look at that for me?
<8> brianw: but they wont answer me..... >_<
<3> Distro^Junkie: nice
<8> brianw: ive been waiting a good 10 min. for a reply on IRC
<10> how might i extract a tar archive to a difference directory that i'm not in (pwd)?
<9> they are probably afk, stay in theree someone may answer, otherwise see if they have a forum or mailing list
<10> *different
<7> synackuator, -C /path/bla
<11> I'm surprised the topic doesn't say "Xorg 7.1 will be in the tree when it's ready" or something like that. Hasn't there yet been a barrage of annoying users asking when it would be available
<9> synackuator: --directory, it is in man tar
<10> liquiem: ty
<3> AndrewMac: obviously it's having problems w/ some drivers
<9> makzu: nope
<12> Shirakawasuna: what is a split ebuild?
<13> hi guyz..i'm confused with /etc/crontab..this is the system wide cron, right? in the documentation..i didnt see how to edit and use it..if i use #crontab cron - cron that i create..does it affect the /etc/crontab? thanks
<14> makzu: it's available in ~, and there is a wiki tutorial for it
<3> AndrewMac: I haven't had all that much experience w/ amd64, but my usual 'fix-all' is to run revdep-rebuild, just in case
<3> AndrewMac: I'll be back in like 30 mins to help more
<9> DarthLord: yes, but it's use will vary depending on your cron deamon
<9> DarthLord: which are you using?
<11> dj-fu, 7.1?
<4> Shirakawasuna: ok
<15> How do I unmask stuff that's masked with [P]?
<3> arrummzen: when you 'emerge kde', it pulls in about 10 packages like kdemultimedia, kdepim, etc
<14> makzu: oh, sorry, lol. 7 ;P
<3> arrummzen: those are monolithic ebuilds
<13> brianw, i'm using vixie-cron
<11> dj-fu, Innocent mistake
<9> ni1s: emerge -pv actually says masked by P >
<3> arrummzen: split ebuilds are just like the usual ebuilds - it's where you explicitly emerge the essential packages of kde like konqueror, kicker, etc
<12> Shirakawasuna: so you are sugesting we use emerge kdebase not emerge kde?
<3> arrummzen: the benefit of that system is that updates are easier and it's more gentoo-ie (customizable)
<9> DarthLord: ok, then you can use the dir's, cron.* to place your scripts, and crontab already has the entries to run those scripts
<14> blah, gnome>kde.
<14> afk.
<3> arrummzen: nope
<12> Shirakawasuna: how do you switch to split ebuilds?
<13> brianw, sory but i dont understant what you mean..aehahe..
<9> DarthLord: you see the dir's /etc/cron.* ?
<3> arrummzen: I'm recommending you emerge kde-startkde, etc.
<13> brianw,yes
<3> arrummzen: what I did was emerge -C kde and then emerge -pv --depclean
<9> DarthLord: you place your scripts in there and vixie-cron will run them
<3> arrummzen: as well as follow the gentoo guide on the subject - it's covered in the installing KDE section
<13> brianw,..ah..ok
<16> hi people
<3> arrummzen: if you'd like a list of things I've emerged I can give you one
<9> DarthLord: if you notice the entries in /etc/crontab , you will see the dir's being used and their times
<3> arrummzen: you essentially have to recompile all of KDE, and it takes a little bit longer because it has to run the checking phase every time
<16> i have updated my system a while ago. when i start system it gaves me error in net.eth0 and net.lo. saying that is_function is invalid
<17> do i need to mount the usb before i can retrieve pics from a camera?
<9> GeorgeAScott: yes
<16> i have to setup interface with ifconfig
<12> I might just stick with wmaker. I have been using it lately and it appears to work as well as kde .
<17> how do i do that, and how can i configure it to do it at boot?
<3> fholmes: http://rafb.net/paste/results/8l4iew51.html
<3> fholmes: that's from a machine w/ a 2005.1-r1 profile, so who knows how many of those are redundant, but I dont' have any problems
<4> Shirakawasuna: i dont think i can be on in 30 misn its late, catch you tomorrow maybe?
<18> ok, I got a status report on the problem
<9> GeorgeAScott: why would you want it at boot?
<13> brianw, yes..so for example i want to make emerge --sync everyday..so i'll make a cron.example file to cron.daily?do i use same syntax on the cron.example and place it in the dir's?
<9> GeorgeAScott: you can mount it like any other drive... use fstab or manually
<17> hrm ok
<3> just switch the kde, qt, and arts (-kde -qt -arts) and if you plan on using gnome replace -gnome and -gtk with the respective positive values
<9> DarthLord: just make a bash script make it executable, and plop it in there
<3> fholmes: ^
<3> fholmes: you can also remove the -eds line, which was kde-specific for me....same w/ the mozilla
<9> GeorgeAScott: if you set it to mount on boot in fstab, then it will complain if it is unattached
<17> oh ok
<3> arrummzen: http://pastebin.ca/58256
<13> brianw, ah..ok..now i get it..so i'll make a bash script. i thought i'll make a cron file like in the documentation.aehhae..so i need to study bash script..ehhe.
<18> I seem to be able to get xine to work right with dvd video, as long as I have 2 xine instancese open
<3> arrummzen: there's the explicitly emerged kde ebuilds that I have. Obviously you don't need a lot of them, like the games, etc
<9> DarthLord: as I said every cron deamon is a bit different
<3> arrummzen: most people don't need kalzium either
<3> arrummzen: basically, emerge -C kde && emerge -pv depclean, then emerge -C all of the programs depclean wants to remove, emerge that list I posted and run revdep-rebuild
<13> brianw, yah..your right..by the way.. can i edit the file /etc/crontab?i'll just add some cron task thier..then do crontab /etc/crontab?
<3> arrummzen: all of this will take 9-20 hours depending on how fast your machine compiles
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