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<0> er, ctrl+alt+f# even
<1> no
<1> it types letters......
<2> gp***wd then
<1> do i have the wrong keymap or somethin?
<2> jeez
<3> anyone remember how to make my console text small / native resolution when my kernel loads?
<3> isn't a simple conf edit?
<0> tragichero-gento: you should be able to ctrl+alt+f4, or something like that
<4> rommel: There you go.
<0> and then I think x is normally on f7?
<1> no
<1> i mean i kno that should work
<1> but its not
<5> DD|Server: did you ever get xorg set up?
<2> DrChandra, i edit the file... that was for you
<2> lol
<6> How do i reset the hdparm settings to the default without rebooting? Some of the ones i've tried have actually slowed down disk access, and i don't want to have to reboot before i can see what ones are helping and what ones are not
<0> I don't know what to tell you then, it works for me :)
<1> could i have a bad keymap?
<1> becaus when i do that
<0> I'm far from a guru, just a regular user
<1> it types letters
<2> jords, what defaults and use hdparm itself
<7> eniacx: I'm looking for the least painful way to upgrade my glibc. :p I'd rather stick with gentoo, just because. But I'm starting to think that, for now, maybe I might be better off making a new partition et al, installing debian, and just getting some work done <twitch>. It feels wrong, but I was hoping for some input from some people who've been doing this for a while. (I was a vim fan long before nano, and I started with slakware.
<8> mbishop: Are you kiding?
<9> jords: if you haven't changed the settings in /etc/conf.d/ , you could restart the hdparm service to get it to re-read the settings in there, i should expect
<10> xinming: what?
<2> no he has no sense of humor
<11> is there a program that will lock my machine when i tell it to?
<12> jimrthy: just use emacs :)
<0> Gamma-X: xtrlock
<7> I'd just like to hear from people who switched from Gentoo to Debian and had horror experiences. Or whatever. The whole "expediency" thing is killing me
<6> trommel: he defaults that if i restart hdparm will use. I understand that I have to do something else to get it to keep settings past reboot, but I'm just experementing now
<8> xinming handbook mentions GRP package, What does GRP stands for?
<8> mbishop GReeeeaaat Packages!
<12> jimrthy: we actually use Gentoo at work on all our developer stations
<13> jords: hdparm -d1u1c1m16k1 /dev/hda - they usually work ok for me
<7> eniacx: That's part of the problem. sbcl refuses to run until I upgrade glibc
<10> xinming: of course heh
<8> mbishop: Is that true? GRP stand for Great Package? :-/
<12> jimrthy: What is the problem you are encountering while upgrading glibc?
<2> jimrthy, debian will install really fast ... thats where its advantage wears off
<10> xinming: no heh
<7> eniacx: My last try spent 3 days building :p And I need to rebuild the tool chain
<12> jimrthy: you can always p*** the '-g' flag to emerge to see if a binary package is available. Install the binary package, get work done, while the source is compiling.
<10> jimrthy: what's wrong with sbcl?
<7> rommel: That's what I'm looking for. Where does the disadvantage wear off?
<4> jimrthy: Just keep building, just keep building!
<14> I followed: http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_DRI_with_ATi_Open-Source_Drivers but direct rendering is still not working ... any suggestions?
<15> "startkeylogger"
<16> does xchat use gtk?
<17> anyone here using just engage from e17?
<10> ..what is with these people and their startkeylogger?
<8> hm, BTW, Is there any performance benchmark on optimized version of gentoo and without optimizition?
<13> jords: xprment626: are you sure you card is supported by the open source ati drivers?
<2> jimrthy, well i think the only advantage is that it installs in 20 mins
<18> mbishop: Norton Personal Firewall "feature"
<7> mbishop: It's not a gentoo thing. It's an sbcl weakness. Their build process is insane, and everyone on #lisp just recommended installing the binary (because it's pretty much guaranteed that a lisp newb can't build the thing)
<14> broken2, yes ... I have the R200
<18> If you have it installed and it detects that phrase in an IRC channel, it'll disconnect the IRC client
<10> jimrthy: builds fine here
<12> jimrthy: The granularity of how you control your packages is the difference between the two.
<19> hi. why is DVD playback with xine very choppy?
<17> im wondering its stable enough that its worth unmasking
<10> jimrthy: course you are probably using 0.9.9?
<2> jimrthy, i found the pkg management to be a pita
<13> xprment626: have you tried the close source drivers?
<20> dma enable on the dvd drive?
<13> closed*
<19> it's enabled yeah
<21> how do i run x without framebuffer?
<20> Ralas: what is the system?
<12> jimrthy: For instance, you can turn on, or off specific support within packages. If you know you aren't evern going to use gnome, you can just -gnome in your USE flags and gnome bindings never get compilied into any of your packages
<7> mbishop: I think that's the one I'm trying to install
<14> broken2, I had that before but I had a few problems with it: system hanging and I couldn't get planeshift working because of the card
<12> jimrthy: or if you dont want anything to do with ipv6 you can -ipv6... Or if you want emacs support where available in packages, turn it on.
<7> eniacx: Yeah, I've figured that out. That's why I chose gentoo in the first place, a couple of years back. (After about 10 years of slackware geekhood)
<22> is there any way to install Gentoo the good old way from console line type deal without using this new GUI installer? I can't get that thing to work
<23> Crimjob: download the minimal or universal CDs
<24> gui installer? (installing gentoo via cmdline atm)
<12> jimrthy: Debian will probably be fine until you try to do something out of the ordinary.
<21> the gui installer is far into testing stage
<22> I dunno, I popped in the CD and booted with it and it hopped into Gnome
<23> Modern_Myth: yes, in the continuing n00bification of Gentoo they've deceided a graphical installer is needed and there's currently a test version ISO doing the rounds
<19> jsheedy: AMD athlon XP 2200, 768 mb RAM, kernel 2.6.11-gentoo-r1, xine-lib-1.1.1-r3
<12> jimrthy: and in that case, you could always get the source and build it...
<21> theres a gui installer and text based installer, then theres the old way, and the old way is the only way so far
<25> I got PAM authentication error, while su to root, I'm in wheel, and root couldn't login in console either
<10> Crimjob: you've got the wrong cd
<12> jimrthy: but you may not take advantage of your hardware to the fullest
<7> eniacx: I tend to do a lot of that :/ I'm seriously thinking about a "RYOL" thing
<22> oh
<20> Ralas: this is on all movies?
<22> what CD should I be getting, then?
<13> xprment626: the open source drivers tend to be very twitchy. i would suggest getting the latest version of the closed source drivers instead.
<19> jsheedy: I think so but let me verify that...
<21> how do i run x without framebuffer?
<10> Crimjob: either the minimal or universal livecd's from gentoo.org
<12> linux from scratch?
<7> eniacx:Yes, thank you
<22> mbishop: I got the universal live CD >.<
<14> broken2, all right
<14> broken2, thanks
<0> anyone know which package the kde run command is in?
<19> jsheedy: it is on all movies
<23> ig88b: kdebase would be my guess
<20> Ralas: what is the drive?
<26> How do I use emerge to force a package to recompile with new USE flags?]
<21> ig88b: kdebase-startkde
<23> ig88b: godknows what it is in the split ebuilds though
<0> I just use kicker, and I want the run command to work
<19> jsheedy: creative pc-dvd 12x
<1> sweet
<1> i got it fixed
<1> it was my keymap
<1> im happy so far
<1> sound is next
<20> Ralas: is mmplayer slow also?
<22> mbishop: the link on the page shows the same ISO that I downloaded that gave me the GUI :S
<20> -m
<0> I hope my new gateway laptop I'm getting works well with gentoo
<27> Help I cannot play audio CDs, this is what i get from mplayer, ++ WARN: error in ioctl CDROMREADTOCENTRY for track 1: Invalid argument
<28> ok
<27> I tried rebooting and doing env-update
<2> Tarantulafudge, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ioctl+CDROMREADTOCENTRY+for+track+1%3A+Invalid+argument&btnG=Google+Search
<28> I'm trying to emerge kdebase-starkde-3.5.1 and it has a dep that doesn't exist... this ****s.
<19> jsheedy: verifying that
<29> why gentoo remove my symbolic links from my dev dir
<29> ??
<1> whats a good wm thats not Gnomes or KDE?
<7> eniacx: I'm looking at a very short-term fix at this point. Contracts that need to be fulfilled now, that sort of thing. I wondered if anyone had any horror stories that would tell me that I'm totally screwed if I [did the unthinkable and] switched to Debian until I get some spare time
<0> openbox
<20> Ralas: ok
<0> I love my openbox
<7> tragicharo-gento: I like fluxbox
<1> i want something like u know, more linux
<27> rommel, that doesn't tell me anything, I've already searched for it
<0> I used to love fluxbox, but it has the freezing issue with mplayer, et all
<1> im tired of windows like wm
<0> openbox doesn't, so I use it
<1> ill check it out
<1> ty
<0> I'd try openbox or fluxbox
<12> jimrthy: have you ever used debian?
<7> ig88b I've never had it freeze on me, but, then, I'm not an mplayer sort of guy.
<0> maybe xfce
<0> well, when you move windows, X freezes
<7> eniacx: No [scared]
<30> hi
<0> which makes mplayer, xmms, anything, basically, freeze while you're moving the window
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