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<0> SalsaDoom: or ink...
<1> is possible to change directorios path of /var/cache/edb and /var/db ?
<2> mattmatteh: so, do you have any clue how could i get my mice device working?
<3> tomml: its a dot-matrix ;P its like 1066 cps printer... it ****s to work on so bad ;(
<2> mattmatteh: when first installing gentoo i had a simmilar problem but i can't remmember the answer (something about udev.conf)
<4> ok same question again how do i update variables that where inserted in /etc/env.d/
<4> without doing souce /etc/profile.env =P
<0> SalsaDoom: dot matrix?? are those the ones that make funky noises
<5> azi`: some alternative mouse locations: /dev/psaux /dev/mouse /dev/usbmouse
<2> Ccx[CNX]: nop here ;(
<2> nop/not
<3> tomml: yeah, they still use them for printing multi-part forms and stuff. We actually see a fair amount of them...
<6> when will new Gentoo be released?
<3> renewip: er, i donno. Why?
<0> SalsaDoom: i have enought trouble fixing my laserjet 6L , paper feed mech is gay
<5> azi`: well, in worst case you can add them manually, the procedure is in kernel docs
<3> tomml: 6l, thats pretty old man. Buy a new one :)
<7> azi`, did you test it in the console without X working ?
<0> SalsaDoom: me is a 14yr old student
<3> azi`: also uh, make sure that you have the latest udev.conf installed via etc-update. I forgot to do that once and it caused all sorts of chaos :)
<3> tomml: oh yeah well, your screwed. :D
<0> SalsaDoom: got it at a boot sale for :)
<4> help ?
<8> Hello, having a few problems with logging in with xdm, it seems X crashes when i login :/ .. so xdm resets and i can try login again :/ ... root's X works just fine though :/
<0> SalsaDoom: its funny watching it produce windoz test pages tho
<9> whats the most efficient way to centrally locate a portage tree for a network of gentoo pc's to use?
<0> SalsaDoom: (over the net)
<5> Istasi: make sure you have some space on disk
<6> can I use stages at http://distfiles.gentoo.org/snapshots/ ?
<3> MagmaRules: K, i'm confused about your problem. You want to update your env changes, but without using source?
<6> are they stable?
<5> Istasi: this got me few times :)
<3> woah, boss.
<8> Ccx, its a all new installation so should have plenty yet :/
<6> can I use stages at http://distfiles.gentoo.org/snapshots/ ? are they stable?
<2> mattmatteh: i'm all the time in the console
<2> SalsaDoom: tryed ;(
<4> SalsaDoom, when i do source in /etc/profile.env i loose ls
<5> Istasi: Well, not sure how bout xdm but kdm keeps a log you can peer into
<10> argh, just can't get enough of #gentoo. :D ...
<10> what's the solution to fixing the old "digest verification failed" for a package that's downloading directly from a mirror and i just sync'd ?
<7> azi`, try to cat /dev/input/mice then move the mouse.... what happens? when done testing that do crtl-c and type reset to fix the garbage should there be any
<11> Vaevictus, is it udev?
<10> kojiro: media-sound/ardour
<2> mattmatteh: well the input/ dir is empty
<11> Vaevictus, usually just redownload or pick another mirror, then FEATURES=mirror emerge -f <package>
<4> SalsaDoom, how can i join the global variables with my .bashrc just like i was rebooting ?
<10> i've deleted it ... how do i pick a different mirror easily?
<2> mattmatteh: the problem is, that i alredy had the same issue :\ but i'm too stupid to remmber how did i fixed it
<0> Vaevictus: mirror-select?
<11> Vaevictus, do you have mirrorselect installed?
<10> oh ... nm
<7> azi` hmmm that is a problem. not sure i know how to fix atm
<10> it's downloading from ardour.
<10> they screwed it up
<10> someone should mark it ~x86 or something. :D
<0> Vaevictus: make that mirrorselect
<7> azi`, might be missing something from the kernel
<2> mattmatteh:ok thanks.. it's udev fault anyway ;)
<7> azi`, may or may not be
<2> mattmatteh: impossible (100%)
<11> Vaevictus, well... the digests are in portage, so it's probably one of those cases when "Upstream" isn't careful about it's md5s
<11> its
<2> mattmatteh: i alredy had the same (really the same) kernel on the previous box
<7> azi`, but the keyboard works ?
<10> kojiro: i'm thinking they replaced the binary. :|
<2> mattmatteh: i'm ircing with it ;-)
<12> yeah, I've had digest problems with opera since last week. Nothing's been done about it.
<10> oh ... it is ~x86 ... so nevermind... i'll just uninstall it. :D
<11> Vaevictus, you can work around it, but it's not recommended in general
<7> azi`, ahh
<10> kojiro: if i cared, i could rebuild the manifest.
<11> Vaevictus, (psst, there's a faster waY)
<11> Macintosh--
<10> heh
<11> doc|work, try Milk of Magnesia.
<10> is it talking for you, or just precapitalizing?
<11> Vaevictus, the darn trackpad is oversensitive, so whenever I type my mouse bounces all over the screen
<10> opera always gives me digest problems... all that high singing....
<7> azi`, might want to post in the forums
<0> so hard to get decent work experience for school down here in cornwall,UK. in the end i settled for "supporting hundreds of users in a mixed OS enviroment (Unix and Windows)". if only i could route all windows calls to /dev/null....
<12> kojiro: o.O
<13> i was wondering how i can connect my rio karma via ethernet to my gentoo box. it also brought up the issue of having one Cat5 in my room. is there anyway to make more connections off one cat5 that goes to the router to the modem so i can connect my riokarma to gentoo
<0> thisbullet: switch or hub
<10> kojiro/doc: i'm thinking of scheduling a emerge -B world, so that i can manually emerge those bins later... is that something anyone does?
<13> tomm1, any way i can make one?
<0> thisbullet: nop
<13> tomm1, is a switch/hub/router the same thing?
<11> Vaevictus, doesn't work well
<7> thisbullet, no
<10> kojiro: no?
<0> thisbullet: you cant just split the cable... u need a switch or hub. switch is better as it reads the MAC and sends it to target.. hub blindly sends it everywhere
<11> Vaevictus, unfortunately, emerge -B will fail when there are unmet build-time deps
<2> mattmatteh: thanks
<7> azi`, np
<0> thisbullet: router joins ur dsl and ur cat5 or wahtevr
<10> kojiro: oh... sweet..
<10> kojiro: so ... if i wanted to install with the bins, i'd have to install the source first. :D
<13> and hubs do what
<11> Vaevictus, it works great for packages whose deps are already built, though :-)
<10> kojiro: so ... emerge -B world will *fail* out? that ****s pretty bad. it'd be one thing if the individual packages failed but the batch continued.
<7> thisbullet, routers generally take 1 ip provided by an isp and make more private ips on an internal subnet...
<11> Vaevictus, yeah :-(
<14> is there any way to share a printer between a unix server and a winxp client without samba?
<0> thisbullet: hubs get a signal and send it down all the ports, not jsut wher its supposed to go. is what i use
<10> kojiro: ipe. oh well... it was a thought. maybe i'll work a queue around it.
<15> nfs on the xp
<0> psofa: not really, but M$ relased some thing called tools for unix which may be of help
<16> Hi, does anyone know how to stick to one view mode in Konqueror?
<10> kojiro: emerge --sync && for I in `emerge -p world | awk '/[U]/ {print $1}` ... or something. :D
<11> Vaevictus, heh. I have emerge -uDf world in cron. That's about it :-)
<11> well. emerge --sync && emerge -uDf world
<11> and --quiet ;-)
<17> ??
<17> oh
<11> quiet, you knew when you signed on that your nick would get you in trouble. :-P
<16> tomml. Chuck Norris compiled Gentoo from stage1 and ALL packages, twice.
<10> kojiro: :|
<10> zaggy_nl: lol
<11> Vaevictus, there's always ccache and distcc :-)
<10> kojiro: and i've got a 128 opteron cluster. :D but that's still not the point.
<0> Vaevictus: can you cluster over the net?
<18> im usinga kanotix disk to chroot into my gentoo, how can i reinstall grub from here?
<10> maybe i'll write a little app that /tries/ to do the equivalent of a full package build... and keeps a total of the number of busted packages. :D
<11> Vaevictus, well, unfortunately it's a reasonable breakage -- how would you work around it if you're a gentoo dev?
<10> tomm1: ya
<13> tomm1, would something like this suffice http://cgi.ebay.com/FAST-ETHERNET-SWITCHING-HUB-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ5867776478QQcategoryZ11180QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
<11> heh
<0> Vaevictus: is it worthwile, over 2mbps adsl
<10> kojiro: i'm not saying it's unreasonable.
<19> kojiro
<19> korjio: guess what...my KDE is working :)
<19> thanks for the help earlier
<18> im usinga kanotix disk to chroot into my gentoo, how can i reinstall grub from here?
<11> Vaevictus, I know. You could have a gentoo system running in chroot that uses emerge -b
<10> tomm1: depends what you're trying to accomplish. certain clustering could take advantage of a slow serial connection.
<20> distcc over the intarweb isn't secure
<20> or too practical
<15> chroot into the gentoo system
<17> Old, it's easy just chroot the same way you do from the gentoo livecd
<15> then emerge it!
<11> Vaevictus, and then you could merge those packages to your "production" out-of-chroot box when you're happy with them
<21> it's also too slow, you need a very strong upstream to make it worth anything
<18> yeah, i've done that, is it installed automatically into my MBR after emerge?
<17> Old, mount proc and dev
<21> on the order of 45Mbps or so, at the least
<2> mattmatteh: just in case you wanna know the root of the problem it was because a lack of coldplug/hotplug, thanks
<11> FieldySnuts, or an incredibly slow original host
<17> Old, copy the proc/mounts to /etc/mtab and grub-install
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