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<0> lapator: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81012
<1> Kurcz: installer most first compile files
<2> redphoenix1, no need. xorgconfig is already there
<0> lapator: (that was "ALL equery depend")
<3> any gcc/g++ toolchain guru around (not a c/c++ programming problem) that can help me narrow the bug described at http://paste.linuxhowtos.org/gcc.htm ?
<2> ? xorg config
<4> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml
<5> marienz: thanks ;)
<6> yea but when i run that and then try to run gdm it says device not found
<6> but xorgxfg runs fine
<7> roger55: for CDR/DVDR drives
<8> Thanks guys. I just want to check to see if my bind is working. I will check them out though
<2> redphoenix1, does startx work?
<7> i have a DVDR drive, but i've never had to set one up
<6> i dont know i just tried to start gdm
<9> !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "ooextras" have been masked.



<9> .. any suggested solution ?
<2> redphoenix1, you probably didn't specify /dev/input/mice for your mouse
<8> bind-tools was it.
<1> install failed http://pastebin.com/729894
<10> roger55: do you know if CNet or Gigabyte wireless cards is supported by linux?
<6> nope it does not find the monitor
<2> zezzy, linux-wless.p***ys.nl
<6> no screen found
<6> but when i try to run xorgcfg which starts x everything is fine
<2> redphoenix1, that doesn't use your config
<2> redphoenix1, read the guide jeeves linked you to.
<10> roger55: as a url? got me to Apache site
<2> zezzy, hmm
<6> i know but i am just saying that my monitor is stil there
<6> ok
<2> zezzy, http://linux-wless.p***ys.nl/ works for me
<10> thx, i used www.
<10> ;)
<2> redphoenix1, it means your xorg.conf isn't right
<11> while gentoo is installing should I be getting some type of ouput?
<11> im using the graphical installer.
<6> ok brb
<11> I mean compiling
<6> going to try this
<6> thank you for your help
<6> :)
<2> pvd2006, that means that package failed
<12> How do I start a second X session on tty8 (or whatever you call Ctrl+Alt+F8) ?
<11> roger55, if I Get output or if I dont?
<2> pvd2006, better try a manual install using a stage3
<2> pvd2006, sorry wron nick
<2> p3thupv, that package failed
<7> roger55: any thoughts on what i should do to get CDR/DVDR support working?
<1> can i install anyway
<13> amy__, for gnomebaker? or k3b?
<13> amy__, there are some USE flags you'll need to set
<7> i have dvd dvbr and dvdread set in USE
<2> amy__, support in what?
<2> p3thupv, ?
<2> p3thupv, it looks like it failed after the base system so I guess the rest is already installed
<7> roger55: im not sure how to make sure it works on the kernel/hardware level, what do i need to include to have it work? specifically im not sure whether i need to add CDROM Scsi emulation, or make sure not to add that
<11> gentoo seems to complicated for me right now, maybe in 6 months;). I dont really have any use for the customization and such right now anyways.
<2> p3thupv, you can try if it works to boot the install and then emerge the rest from within your new install
<14> I'm getting "ARCH not set" after repointing my profile to 2006.0
<2> JB318, then you did something wrong
<2> JB318, readlink /etc/make.profile
<14> roger55: Yes, and I'd like to know what :)
<13> amy__, when you rolled your kernel, what options did you include?
<14> ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux-x86/2006.0
<2> JB318, well that doesn't exist
<14> Ah. That's what I get for not using filename completion. ty
<2> roger@t20 ~ $ readlink /etc/make.profile
<2> ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0
<7> lastnode: i excluded using cdrom scsi emulation, what else should i check for?
<2> amy__, scsi emulation is a thing of the past
<13> amy__, wait, to recap. you've emerged whatever with cdrw support etc, but it wont work, so you're trying to check at the kernel level?
<2> amy__, iso966 and udf support in filesystems
<2> iso9660 even
<15> argh! somebody has got to help me with this binary part of portage, its drivng me nuts!
<16> Channel: To Desktop Environment or not to DE. That is the question. Discuss.
<5> hey roger55 ;)



<15> someone who could talk me it through?
<7> oh no, this is rather preventative, making sure i know what needs to be there for it to work. I havent tried it yet and i don't have X or anything up yet.
<17> few people use binary in gentoo, gotta be more specific
<7> roger55: thank you :D
<0> cstPilot: that's a pretty flaimbaitish question, what are you trying to accomplish with it?
<13> amy__, id reckon you prolly dont need to roll any custom options. the default kernel options should cover it, but roger55's checklist is good to follow
<13> :)
<15> Fieldy, downloading and emerge binaries via portage.
<16> marienz: To know wether or not I would be better with it or not
<17> nimda562: no idea.
<13> nimda562, gentoo builds from source. binaries?
<18> Hi, i fixed my hard disk problem with the utility testdisk which is in portage.. nice util by the way..
<15> no one who has experience with it?
<0> cstPilot: that depends entirely on your "taste". There is no objective answer, and trying to have an "objective" discussion about it doesn't work.
<15> lastnode, yes, there is a binary function to save time
<2> nimda562, what binary part?
<19> cstPilot: Try it with and without and make up your own mind.
<13> cstPilot, do you like your bread with the crusts on or off?
<7> awesome, i already have those options set, i think they may have been default, actually.
<15> roger55, ..?
<20> how to reload my /etc/group? don't use reboot.
<0> ckebabo: logout and back in.
<13> amy__, iirc, they are default
<18> i upgraded my kernel from 2.6.15-gentoo-r7 to 2.6.16-gentoo-r7, and even tho i recompiled all modules, iptables gives me this when trying to start: FATAL: Module ip_tables not found.
<2> nimda562, so you have some binaries made for your system?
<17> roger55: no, he expects someone else has already done that. not sure where people get that idea.
<18> i recompiled iptables just to make sure it used the right kernel
<13> {pa}, you ran update-modules?
<15> no, mirrors with binaries, so instead i download the sources, i download binaries and save time
<13> (sorry, just weeidn out the obvious)
<18> lastnode, tell the truth, no.. should I?
<0> I guess that ~rac/binaries page is gone now :(
<13> {pa}, er, yeah?:
<17> as far as I know, there are no public / known binary mirrors
<2> nimda562, that's debian, not gentoo. gentoo let's you do that if you create your own binaries
<13> nimda562, why are you using gentoo if you dont want source? there are a bazillion other distros out there that ship binaries
<16> ok well um thanks guys.
<15> roger55, look it up yourself
<13> cstPilot, you're welcome. i like my bread with crusts btw
<17> nimda562: trust me. roger55 knows what he is talking about.... why don't you give him a url instead?
<15> lastnode, lets not worrie about that.
<2> nimda562, you tell me to rtfm? show me the fm then.
<16> lastnode: I prefer crust too.
<18> lastnode, even after running update-modules, it gives the same error when trying to start it
<13> nimda562, you're being kinda patronizing for someone who wants help
<17> indeed. the attitude isn't helping you get help.
<15> http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Using_PORTAGE_BINHOST
<13> {pa}, is the module loaded from the kernel config, or did you get it via a package?
<15> lastnode, well im sorry if i am, not on purpose
<17> gentoo-wiki isn't even run by us, while they often have good material, we can't vouch for it
<13> nimda562, gentoo is not optimized to provide bins. that was what i was getting at.
<2> nimda562, Warning: The following links are not pointing to official Gentoo binhosts. Gentoo does not provide public binhosts at all. Usage of binary packages provided by the listed binhosts may prove a security problem.
<17> and that warning sums it up.
<21> thats probably the best part of gentoo anyway :P
<0> nimda562: that binhost approach only really works if you use packages from that single binhost exclusively (don't mix source-compiled and binhost stuff) and the binhost uses a fixed set of USE flags. While gentoo probably could technically supply that it does not make much sense: you lose the main advantages of gentoo as a source distro (USE flags mainly). Just use something like debian.
<13> nimda562, you're basically letting an untrusted repo install software on your machine. think twice, esp if it's a productiom box
<15> yes i know guys, it not safe and so on... but the feature is there, and i would like to use it.
<17> you're pretty much on your own then.
<0> nimda562: I'm trying to dig up an archived version of a page explaining why mixing binary/source does not work reliably.
<13> nimda562, use it, but dont come ask in here when you break something. we wont be able to help you
<13> at least, not well
<21> nimda562: I agree, your best bet is to use an alternative distro thats designed for this.
<13> nimda562, i dual boot debian, it's great for when i b0rk my gentoo ;-)
<21> lol
<18> lastnode, i have the iptables package installed
<15> marienz, okey
<13> {pa}, ok, there is no kernel option?
<22> any apache2 experts here? i cant get apache to display my php pages correctly - it shows the php code and not the php output
<2> ]TLA[, #gentoo-apache
<21> nimda562: you will likely have problems if you try to do it
<3> using a binary approach on gentoo works fine if you got 3 or 4 identical machines (mainly cpu arch) and want to install updates on all of them. 1 compiles, other only install.
<21> so if your doing it just to play, thats cool
<21> but otherwise I would use debian.
<18> lastnode, well in 2.6.15, i had all the required kernel options set up so iptables worked.. i did make oldconfig when i upgraded the kernel, so the options should have been p***ed


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