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<0> I think so
<1> pvd2006, i always thought that.... but it means "unix system ressources" ^^
<0> oh seriously?
<2> blackace, AllenJB, how i get ufed then :S
<3> pvd2006: yeah, seriously.
<4> SiSteM[32]: you read the handbook...you've skipped steps, which is bad, and I don't know how many or which you skipped...so I suggest you start over and don't skip anything this time.
<0> I didnt know that, I figured user since user files go in there, lol.
<1> user is quite illogical.. if you have a "home" where the "user" lives...
<2> .. im at use flags.. i dont think i skipped steps
<5> SiSteM[32]: I believe it has its own package. Try "emerge ufed", and listen to blackace - he knows more about Gentoo than I do
<1> but everybody is pronouncing "usr" as "user" ^^
<0> ahh I see
<2> i did emerge ufed it says failed to get packeage or something
<6> originally /usr was used in the same way /home was
<6> then there is /usr/home
<1> so usr was called user once?
<4> SiSteM[32]: if you had network on the livecd at first, but not inside the chroot, you skipped steps.
<6> and linux just moved it ot /home
<5> pwuertz: It's pronounced like that , but it doesn't mean that. It's <something> system resources or something like that IIRC. There is a filesystem layout standard document that has it in
<2> :(
<1> ok.... so its ok too keep calling it "user"... great ^^
<7> anyone know of a good nontextbased client?
<1> what does etc stand for?
<0> I am pretty new to linux, only been using it for 3 months.
<0> hmm
<0> I just know etc has configuration files, lol
<1> hEre is The Configuration
<0> ahhh ok
<1> no!
<0> whats root stand for?
<8> haha =)
<0> lol jk
<1> i dont know ^^
<9> anyone?
<8> it stands for root :o
<0> hehehe
<8> Hotti, sorry, I dont use Konsole
<0> what does microsoft stand for? Anybody? anyone?
<8> >_<
<10> jimmyekl, Hey, i got xev up and running. Where am I looking for a key binding?
<7> pvd2006, microfunctional software
<11> pvd2006 I think its an acronym for excrement
<0> haha
<7> anyone know of a good nontextbased direct connect client?
<12> pvd2006: my international communist rollover office so ouganda f's them
<13> anone could get http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133929 into the portage tree
<0> ahh
<5> pwuertz: The FHS will tell you lots about linux filesystem standards: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/
<8> Mizipzor: dcqt
<0> I sort of want to install gentoo just so I can learn more about linux.
<14> hear hear!
<14> thats the spirit
<2> what was the webpage where i see the use flags ?
<7> smiler, cant find it in portage, isnt in there?
<1> AllenJB, hm... what does "etc" mean? the name?
<0> well let google be the judge of this:)
<10> ok.....Here's my problem, perhaps someone can help. Left click is button 1, Right click is button 3, and my mousewheel is showing as up being button 1 and down being button 2
<12> pwuertz: it has been said seconds before "hEre is The Configuration"
<0> it stands for etcetera?
<0> wth, according to this page that is
<8> Mizipzor: dc-qt, also check out dc-gui
<7> smiler, ill check those
<1> CrashandDie, where?
<15> yeja
<12> pwuertz: in this channel ;)
<1> CrashandDie, cant see any answer between "hEre is The Configuration" and the question
<15> which is the proper channel to ask a question about genkernel and why no fs-modules are in the initrd ?
<0> here is a good one, everything that is configurable:).
<1> hmm.... thats good
<12> pwuertz: you wanted to know what etc meant no?
<1> CrashandDie, obviously... i want to know what the word means
<15> right here ?
<15> or is there a better place
<12> mcf|y: give it a shot
<15> k... well i built my kernel with genkernel
<15> the /-filesystem is jfs
<15> JFS=m
<12> pwuertz: well depends what word lol... etc in the way /etc/portage/keywords.use or so some etc
<15> in the kernel config
<1> CrashandDie, because i obviously seem to know that its meant for configuration files when i say "hEre is The Configuration"
<15> meaning it's compiled in as a module
<12> mcf|y: ask the question on one line, no one wants to even try to understand a 10 line question
<15> on the initial ramdisk the jfs.ko is missing ... and hence booting stops when the "real_root" filesystem is tried to be mounted
<15> k
<15> why does genkernel not copy filesystem modules onto initial ramdisk ?
<16> mcf|y, what is jfs ? your ROOT partiton?
<15> I need genkernel to copy jfs.ko (which is the /-filesystem) + dependencies into the initial ramdisk ..
<15> richiefrich: exactly
<16> can't u boot ?
<15> i get to the point where real_root is mounted
<16> so it boots?
<15> because the kernel has JFS-support only as a module...
<16> Note: If your root filesystem is JFS, you must add " ro" to the kernel line since JFS needs to replay its log before it allows read-write mounting.
<15> sure ... did that
<16> i dont know if that what your asking
<17> mcf|y, you do realize genkernel --menuconfig all would let you tell it to build it in?
<18> not that i use gentoo..but everyone says the communities helpful. now is there still a 4gb limit on ifconfigs//proc/net/dev byte counters due to the use of unsigned longs? ive found numerous mentions of it, and at least 2 patches. but nfi if they were accepted into the linux tree or not.
<15> thnx, tdr and richiefirch: but DO is really have to compile it into the kernel ?
<15> sorry
<15> typo
<15> thnx, tdr and richiefirch: but DO I really have to compile it into the kernel ? I'd prefer a module and have it loaded in the initial ramdisk phase
<17> mcf|y, only morons don't compile into the kernel the stuff they need to boot every single time
<15> lol
<15> nice one
<17> i can't imagine the initrd not having it though. what is the exact error it tells you?
<15> tdr, at the point where real_root is mounted and it fails i request a shell. find /lib/modules -name "*jfs*" doenst find anything
<19> does flash use oss?
<17> mcf|y, hrm. have you verified real_root points to the right partition?
<15> i expected it to be there ... no question .. so the actual question is ... is this (leaving filesystem modules out from initial ramdisk) done "on purpose"
<20> hoow do I test a tar archive's integrity? -W doesn't seem to be the right option as it fails every time
<17> ram_einstein, -W is for when you are creating it, it tests the archive you made
<20> tdr: yeah, I read the manual
<20> tdr: then how do I test its integrity?
<15> it's kinda strange, cos genkernel has option like --lvm2 --evms2 , but none to include the filesystem-modules of the /-filesystem ... admittedly it can be argued it the /-filesystem should not be compiled INTO the kernel on a PARTICULAR machine
<15> ... but anyway, i think u get the point
<21> Hello, is there any smtp relayer which support different relays based on sendmail command or configuration (i'd like to use it with mutt and folder hooks to use a smtp for each from address)
<22> So, i have no idea what two buttons to bind to my mousewheel
<22> or, if any will even make it work
<13> chaos: usually its 4 and 5
<22> r0nny: nope...its a screwed up mousewheel...its attached to my touchpad, cuz the touchpad is circle and unable to have a scrollbar
<13> chaos: then its up to you
<22> r0nny: thats the problem.... : /
<20> I have a slight problem with my current mbox configuration. My mailbox is /var/mail/ram. fetchmail is configured to fetch mail from the gmail server. Is that the reason for me not being able to receive mail from cron?
<11> seems to be a bit of a lag between starting local and me getting a prompt - what causes this? I dont understand the gentoo boot process yet
<15> tdr: ask the other way: what is the purpose of "genkernel" which manages to detect and autoload m***-storage drivers (ide,scsi) but then does not include the filesystem-module to mount the /-filesystem ?
<23> anyone know any reasons i cant access apache2 via ssl ? I keep getting a connection refused in firefox, normal http is working fine
<20> how do I resize a disk with parted? resize 1 0 4 doesn't seem to have any effect in the subsequent p
<24> test
<22> How can i bind a key to a command? such as being on a laptop and binding the volume key to the sound ?
<0> what filing system would you guys recommend for quickness?
<25> ram_einstein: Use gparted or qtparted
<20> Def: why?
<15> tdr, still here?
<23> pvd2006 reiserFS for small files or XFS
<25> ram_einstein: Nice gui with detailed options and progress
<15> anyone else interested in my discussion about genkernel ?
<20> Def: okay
<25> ram_einstein: Makes it easier to perform the partitioning
<0> hmm
<24> who
<24> who #gentoo
<20> Def: gtk and qt libs! I don't need such a gui!
<0> so is gentoo pretty easy to install if you use the default setting to install where the cd does most of the installation?
<15> also there is NO statement in the manual which says the filesystem of the /-partition MUST be COMPILED directly into the kernel
<11> pvd2006 what are you talking about?
<0> Awesome-o2000: Ive heard that installing gentoo is a lot of manual work, is that true? I dont mind if it is, because I will get to learn more about linux.
<11> pvd2006 you mean the livecd GUI installer? You're still going to need to know what you're doing a bit, and if you dont mind the genkernel stuff
<11> but it works
<23> just follow the install handbook and you should be fine
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