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<0> tillo: I have run them manually before, but I have rebooted since then. They do not show up in rc-status
<1> NPLSolutions: that is to say, 2 "p***es" within Memtest
<2> robstafarian: I'll come back when it's done. Thanks for the help
<3> fabitaly69, need to add support in your kernel for apm (old power management) or acpi (newer one) dependin on which one u got.
<0> tillo: I wonder if this could be a kernel config issue
<1> NPLSolutions: no problem
<4> daharon: then the only thing I'm thinking at is a software that launches iptables, not a script
<4> daharon: afaik there is not a 'default logging' option in kernel
<5> my isp does not require me to use a hostname.. what can i put in /etc/hosts to get rid of the host lookup errors?
<0> tillo: yeah, I couldn't find one
<6> roger55, http://rafb.net/paste/results/QQrpkW80.html
<0> tillo: let me check my emerge.log and see if there is anything recent in there that could be related
<3> acid_, your machines hostname & (same machine) in /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 hostname
<3> acid_, or u could just leave your hostname as localhost :P
<7> If I add in a module to modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 or comment one out, will I have to recompile my kernel to update the changes?
<5> i still get error when gome loads



<8> compu73rg33k: no
<5> gnome
<4> daharon: if you don't find something, try to flush iptables rules and reboot... maybe there is a kernel option 'save somewhere the table'
<9> mac_, looks good, go for it
<5> and when i do startx i see unable to resolve hostname
<7> if I make a change to my /boot/grub/grub.conf will I have to re-run install-grub ?
<0> tillo: ok
<9> acid_, fix /etc/hosts ?
<4> complich8: no
<8> compu73rg33k: no
<4> ops
<5> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost black
<9> compu73rg33k, no
<0> tillo: yeah, becuase I haven't emerged anything net related in 2 weeks
<5> thats what i have in /etc/hosts .. will that not work
<10> what do I do if I want to install flash ?
<10> emerge flash?
<9> bbiab
<3> daharon, whats up with iptables ? (missed out on convo)
<6> still the same problem roger55 ..
<11> Big_J2: emerge --search flash
<12> s
<7> also I need to emerge kde now that I have a booting gentoo sytem
<0> hollowsoul: I'm getting dumps of "IN=ppp0 OUT= MAC= SRC=130.236.254.102 DST=66.122.77.216 LEN=76 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=233 ID=63285 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=123 DPT=123 LEN=56" and the like in dmesg. thousands of them. but I don't have iptables running
<11> compu73rg33k: emerge kde
<13> Hello. Is there any chance somebody might know why I can't simulate things in Xilinx ISE in gentoo, but I can in debian...?
<4> hollowsoul: no scripts apparently launch iptables but it is logging by default everything
<7> k thought so
<3> daharon, theres a kernel option to be verbose on networkin i believe. did a recent kernel compile ?
<5> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost black
<5> is that ok?>
<4> acid_: sure it is
<0> hollowsoul: yes I did, but I only added loopback support for block devices so that I could mount ISO's
<5> i still get the unable to resolve hostname errors
<4> acid_: as long as your machine is called black
<5> so i need to make sure i do hostname black
<5> right?
<4> acid_: right
<14> which -march= should i set in make.conf with an amd geode nx (thouroughbred-b)? i686? k7? athlon-xp?
<0> hollowsoul: I'll look for that though. I just searched make menuconfig and didn't come up with anything
<9> daharon, does 'iptables -L' not show anything?
<1> Sushi: athlon-xp
<4> roger55: he said perviously that rules are there
<1> Sushi: Thoroughbred-B was an Athlon-XP core revision
<0> roger55: it does show stuff. like "LOG udp -- anywhere anywhere udp dpts:0:1023 LOG level warning"
<9> daharon, then you have told it to log somehow
<0> roger55: and "LOG tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpts:0:1023 LOG level warning"
<9> daharon, if you don't want to log, don't tell it to.
<0> roger55: I was messing with it a while back. but I don't know jack about networking. I'll flush iptables like tillo suggested and see what happends
<4> roger55: he didn't told anything, that's why he is searching what tells the kernel to log...
<15> hollowsoul: 2.4.27-2-386
<9> tillo, so are you saying it was the kernel's idea to activate logging with iptables?
<4> roger55: apparently, of course there is a software somewhere that does that.. or a kernel option
<7> ah I'm having a dhcp problem! :(
<9> daharon, that should work
<0> tillo: are you sure I would have to reboot? because I just flushed iptables and they already stopped
<4> daharon: sure it has
<4> daharon: but you would be sure a reboot wouldn't put it back right?
<0> tillo: I don't know. should I just clear out the iptables rules files?
<8> you need to do /etc/init.d/iptables save
<4> daharon: if init.d/iptables is not on default, no



<0> Matas: thats it, thanks
<8> if you want the changes permanent
<0> I remember doing that before
<1> I'm returning to X, be back shortly
<4> Matas: iptables is not running if it's not on default, is it?
<7> on bootup it says "starting eth0" w/ a green asterisk, then a green asterisk by "Bringing up eth0, then a green asterisk by dhcp and then a red asterisk by "eth0 does not exist" then it says ERROR: Problem starting needed services netmount was not started"
<8> tillo: sorry, don't understand
<4> sorry you, my english is bad
<8> tillo: iptables is always "running" if it's compiled in the kernel
<4> Matas: I'm talking about init.d/iptables
<8> that's why iptables -L always returns something - default three empty chains
<0> Matas: iptables wont be involved in system operation if you don't call rc-update add iptables default right?
<4> Matas: save make sense only if it's on 'default' runtime
<8> init.d/iptables only populates the chains
<7> anybody know any help?
<0> Matas: so then how is iptables actually introduced to the system?
<9> compu73rg33k, make sure you load the right module automatically at boot
<8> daharon: iptables is a kernel process. it is on
<9> compu73rg33k, or have support for your network card builtin in kernel
<4> Matas: I know perfectly what iptables is, but /etc/init.d/iptables save only saves a config file for itself, right?
<0> Matas: ah, ok i get it now
<8> tillo: yes
<0> i wasn't aware of that
<4> Matas: if init.d/iptables is not runned on boot, what's the point?
<16> compu73rg33k your eth0 module is not getting loaded
<0> I just thought it was a process like any other
<7> roger55 it has a green asterisk by bringing up eth0 and starting eth0
<8> init.d/iptables save is a wrapper about the iptables-save command
<8> and init.d/iptables start is a wrapper around iptables-restore
<9> compu73rg33k, does 'ifconfig -a' show an eth0 or not?
<8> init.d/iptables stop is a wrapper around iptables -F
<7> no
<0> Matas: so you never really have to call /etc/init.d/iptables again after you've done a save
<4> Matas: and iptables-restore is not runned automatically, if daharon told me the truth
<9> compu73rg33k, then fix that
<7> so you're saying the module isn't loading for sure?
<9> compu73rg33k, like I said above.
<4> Matas: so there is no sense on doing init.d/itpables save
<8> tillo: not unless init.d/iptables is in the default runlevel
<17> is it normal for x11 to take over an hour to emerge?
<4> Matas: that's what I'm saying =) exactly
<8> tillo: it depends on what you want :-)
<4> so the question is
<8> ok, sorry if I was saying the obvious all along :-)
<7> rogger55 okay so how woudl I go about finding out what module I need. the compuetr is a DELL computer
<9> compu73rg33k, if you had the module loaded or support builtin your kernel there would be an eth0 in ifconfig /a
<4> daharon: init.d/iptables is or isn't on the default runlevel?
<0> tillo: is NOT
<4> ok
<8> but...
<4> so forget the save command
<8> i do not know if it is a depend of anything
<4> there is something else
<18> how can i make my system use the java and javac from /opt/jdk1.5.0_06/bin instead of whatever blackdown stuff it's using?
<4> mh rc-status would mark it anyway
<8> because there might be another service which starts it
<9> compu73rg33k, you could look what the livecd loaded or emerge and add coldplug to the boot runlevel
<0> Matas: if it was running though, it would be a process with its own pid, corrrect?
<9> mmiikkee12, using java-config
<4> maybe I'm wrong... but I think rc-status would mark it, and daharon said it wasn't there
<4> daharon: no
<7> roger55 which option is best?
<4> daharon: but the init.d script would mark it has been runned
<4> daharon: with a fake 'pid' or 'lock' file
<9> compu73rg33k, if you went with a default genkernel config, colplug is the least h***le
<4> or... maybe... not... that's the point :D
<7> roger55 I didn't use genkernel
<4> ok, cigarette time
<9> compu73rg33k, so how did you configure your kernel?
<8> tillo: me too :-)
<0> tillo: yeah, me too
<0> ha
<4> :D


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