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<0> ok so its really 97 pages long so konq has a prob
<1> tar: eselect-1.0/libs/portage.bash.in: time stamp 2006-02-09 23:44:53 is 165909 s in the future
<2> people should not think like gentoo is the only linux.... and linux is the only os...and so on....
<1> grr.. my date is fine
<3> ufo: if you're dealing with 100 machines then gentoo probably isn't the distro you want to be using. Something like Red Hat, something with a decent support back end is probably better for those situations
<4> tyvm RiverRat, LSD
<4> brb
<5> hai
<6> Linux isn't an OS. The OS is mostly GNU software.
<7> eastneo: I've opened a bug and complained to many people about the fact that the prompt doesn't change when you chroot so you can't tell what terminals you did the chroot in. :/
<7> eastneo: no problem.
<2> LSD`, no its too buggy for used as server or even desktop at busines
<2> debian for servers and SuSe on desktop
<7> jon_: Wrong. Linux is the OS aka kernel. The tools that do everything else are GNU tools hence the name GNU?Linux
<8> ufo, leanr to build stable branch then
<4> RiverRat i used DSL= damn small linux to do the gentoo install



<0> can you start an internet install from floppies??
<2> you wont have time to play thing like gentoo... its more for hobby... but its great i like it...
<9> hmm, anyone here would help? about using distccmon-text
<4> now i could see the change to my prompt when i chrooted
<9> I don't know where I'm wrong. :-/
<4> so i'm sure about everything now
<7> eastneo: I used redhat to install my Gentoo.
<4> when u chrooted how did the prompt look like?
<2> tdr, gentoo may be on monday stable but not on wednesday... you never know how the update works
<7> eastneo: And 'export PS1="chroot $PS1" ' is the first thing I execute after the chroot.
<10> i get this when trying to emerge ndiswrapper with new kernel sources (i can't find the option they mention in the kernel config thing) http://pastebin.com/564847
<4> yup lol i was about to miss that RiverRat but thank god i did it this time lol
<11> i have the Q3A cdrom, but noticed that there is lot of Q3A stuff in portage. What is the best way to install Q3A using portage?
<12> Riun the latest stable version of ndiswrapper doesn't work for me, but the ~ version works flawlessly
<13> that chroot notifier line is brilliant. Why did it take this long to make it part of the guide? :)
<8> ufo, i think you're exaggerating the instability. btw, in a larger environment, you can always build your stuff on a test machine like any responsible person would, and use the binaries that you of course made to flushthe updates out to the other machines
<14> my driver help says: depends on !uml what does that mean
<3> ufo: that's a problem with Linux in general. Different distros just have different ways of hiding it
<10> thehailo latest is 1.8? and ~1
<10> 1.9?
<7> ufo: Spend some time on your updates and that problem won't be so bad.
<13> treb0r: emerge quake3
<12> 1.8
<2> tdr, and you have an test environment of all the server type you got in rack
<11> Stonefish: Is that using the CDROM at all?
<13> treb0r: Yes, it will
<13> Follow the directions
<11> Stonefish: Very clever. Will it pull down the latest source from icculus too?
<10> thehailo which number version works for you? 1.8 doesn't work for me
<13> gesundheit?
<3> treb0r: there may be a seperate port for that
<2> tdr, do you work on it busines like network-admin or somehing
<4> hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa here it flys
<4> lol
<3> treb0r: look for quake3-icculus or something
<4> what's this?
<11> ok, thanks chaps. gentoo rocks
<13> quake *2* has an icculus package
<12> Riun 1.8 works fine here, 1.2 (stable) errors out because of how new my kernel is
<4> congrate me guys
<3> Stonefish: iD released to Q3 recently though, didn't they?
<4> finally it's done correctly
<4> phew
<4> lol
<13> LSD`: Miss a word there?
<8> ufo, how many server types do you actually have? a 64 bit and 32 bit machine would be enough to test most the stuff. or a 64 bit box with a 32 bit chroot to build the 32 bit in. servers don't use exotic cflags etc.
<7> eastneo: Congrats, now quit abusing the bot. :)
<11> http://icculus.org/quake3/
<3> Stonefish: hmm?
<4> RiverRat i'm not sure did i do that?
<10> how come i get this then? ndiswrapper 1.8 and kernel sources 2.6.15 (http://pastebin.com/564847)
<4> the names thing
<13> treb0r: emerge -s icculus returns only q2 stuff. if there's something for q3 by that name, it's not in portage
<7> <4> hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa here it flys <-- Yeah, long lines like that get you kicked.
<15> go cry emo.
<4> lol
<15> its a line of text, woopdedoo
<15> and you just made a bigger line, so you are the one that should get kicked
<4> was very happy lol ;/
<3> dragoon`: this channel is run by fascists, get use to petty stuff like that
<15> LSD`: i idle here quite alot, but because im downunder, im not around much when its overly active



<8> dragoon` not all people are equally abused
<2> tdr, no servers dont use use flags at all... ;)
<7> LSD`: Not all of us are completely anal.
<11> Stonefish: games-fps/quake3-data is the one. icculus now controls the source for Q3A
<16> anal rententive I ***ume
<7> dragoon`: staff don't get kicked for lines of jibberish.
<16> -n
<2> tdr, the servers are tools... not an playground
<13> treb0r: So it is
<4> when i type ur name RiverRat in the begining of my post do u see the line highlighted?>rnrn
<8> ufo, whatver point you're trying to make, it's tiring. and btw, i do use USE flags and cflags on servers, and it does work
<8> just not on 5000 of them at once :)
<3> treb0r: quake3-9999 seems to get the sources from icculus...
<11> LSD`: that seems to be masked for some reason
<7> eastneo: Yes. Try typing Riv<tab>
<12> I wouldn't run a server without certain use flags, ie minimal and -X to make life easier
<7> LSD`: All the ebuilds of version 9999 are CVS ebuilds and get the latest source. (not the latest release but the latest available)
<3> treb0r: hmm... all the q3 ebuilds seem to have icculus svn stuff in them...
<4> yup ty i know about it, but i'm experiencing strange thing with this IRC client which is when i type /list i don't get the IRC channels list
<3> eastneo: on freenode you don't really want it ;)
<16> eastneo, try /help instead
<11> LSD`: that's cool then. Just wondering how to get the most FPS from my laptop ;-)
<4> LSD`, sorry i don't get it
<3> treb0r: q3 is old, even the most basic laptop graphics today will probably net you 100+ :P
<4> well let me check the freenode website then
<0> can you install gentoo from a host os like with linuxfromscratch
<3> eastneo: there are thousands of channels of freenode, /list'ing them all will take forever
<7> eastneo: Which client?
<17> TomM1: yes
<4> naim
<4> nIRC
<4> it's the DSL live cd default
<7> I use X-chat2 persoanlly and all the other ops tease me for it. :/
<9> * Could not find a gcc that supports the __thread directive!
<9> anyone would help me how to ugprade glibc?
<4> yea i know but i couldn't get it running correctly on DSL so i focused on gentoo's problems
<0> Daemonic: how? is there a short howto or anything
<7> eastneo: You're lucky. I can't get my DSL up from the live CD.
<4> wow why RiverRat
<4> is it a hardware problem?
<1> i have an empty use directive in the make.conf file, but still emerge treaths x11-org base as a dependanice to rp-pppoe?
<1> how's that so?
<11> LSD`: On salckware I never get more than 90FPS. I have a radeon m9 mobility
<7> xinming: Just upgrade it and then run "revdep-rebuild"
<3> azi`: it probably has GUI control panels or something
<7> eastneo: I'm an Arch Tester for AMD64 and I've been testing the 2006.0 release CDs.
<3> azi`: I remember the handbook used to say USE="-X" emerge rp-pppoe at that point
<3> azi`: or something like that
<4> oops AMD64 :S
<1> LSD`: it does
<16> RiverRat, can I ask something then on not running ~amd64 ?
<1> LSD`: and i did that too
<7> azi`: There is a GUI config for rppoe that you can remove with a USE flag that will make it not try to pull in X.
<7> _bart_: Sure.
<9> RiverRat: do you mean `emerge -u glibc && revdep-rebuild` ?
<16> RiverRat, I want to run 32bit on this amd64, pure 32, no double libs, no bins.. what cflags would be compatible ?
<1> RiverRat: as lsd told, it's writtien in the handbook to do USE="-X" emerge rp-pppoe
<4> RiverRat, mine is intel p4 1.6Ghz L2 512KB cache 400MHZ FSB
<1> but it still does emerge xorg;(
<7> xinming: emerge -avDtu glibc and see what it says before allowing it to proceed. Then run the revdep-rebuild.
<9> RiverRat: Which package do I need to install to get revdep-rebuild please?
<4> may be it's not good now adays but i'm very happy with it cuz i'm very lucky to have a PC now
<7> _bart_: CHOST=athlon-xp and then CFLAGS= -O2 -pipe
<18> xinming: gentoolkit
<16> xinming, gentoolkit
<19> hi all
<7> xinming: portage-tools I think.
<16> RiverRat, no arch flag ?
<19> is mplayer/mencoder not available with x264 encoding support on gentoo?
<3> RiverRat: does athlon-xp work on A64s now? Last I heard there was a warning against using it...
<16> RiverRat, nvm I get it soz
<19> or is me doing anything wrong,...
<7> _bart_: Let me check my 32bit chroot jail.
<16> RiverRat, the CHOST surprises me a bit...


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