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<0> the_slash: emerge -e system && emerge -e world
<1> what's -e do? I mean, I know it empties the tree, but what exactly does that do?
<0> emerges everything
<2> the_slash: emerges as if nothing is merged
<3> Will upgrading gcc break my system?
<4> jeian: kernels usually take a few goes to get right, but you can carry the config across to future versions so once you've got it right, you generally don't need to worry about it
<1> ah
<5> the_slash, it tells portage to forget about what is installed while calculating deps
<6> FieldySnuts: pwnd
<3> Don't I have to upgrade a bunch of other stuff too, and in some specific order?
<4> sandman: check channel topic
<5> ? gcc upgrading guide
<7> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml
<1> I'll try that and let you know how it goes



<8> Hm.
<5> sandman, jeeves is your servant
<3> roger55: Jeeves?
<5> jeian, ok let's check, what cards do you have
<3> roger55: You mean the search engine?
<9> Yikes! I'm being attacked!!
<5> sandman, see above
<10> is there a utility like syslinux for reiser4?
<11> gn8
<8> 3Com 3c905C-TX/TX-M, and Lite-On LNE100TX.
<12> i really need some help with courier-imap and mysql is anyone can help
<0> llucas: whats up?
<5> jeian, latter uses e100 or via-rhine afaik
<8> O_o
<3> roger55: Sorry I don't see what you mean.
<5> jeian, did you check while on the livecd?
<5> sandman, 00:24 jeeves| http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml
<8> roger55: I did lsmod, it said 3c95x and tulip.
<12> forrest: when authdaemond makes its SQL query, it doesnt include the domainname on the users login id
<5> jeian, oh right!
<12> forrest: which happens correctly when authdaemon is connecting for SMTP
<8> There's about 6 sub-options down from tulip though.
<5> jeian, did you enable them all?
<4> jeian: pressing ? on each one will tell you stuff about it, including the module name. you can also use / to search
<13> sandman, i did this upgrade yesterday...
<8> roger55: No... should I?
<2> just do the dechip one. that covers 90% of the cards
<5> jeian, yes
<8> Alright.
<8> Modules or built-in?
<0> llucas, you might have more luch in #courier
<5> jeian, and while you're there enable all 3com cards as well
<3> Squidy: Did it break anything?
<5> jeian, 10/100mbit and 1000mbit
<4> jeian: that's up to you, but i build everything in that i can't remove while my machine is running
<8> Heh, OK.
<13> sandman, no break... all is working
<13> sandman, but i did following the revdep-rebuild guide...
<14> jeian, you're 3com card is the one that shows 3c59x under 10/100 mb 3com ... help section
<15> heya
<15> how different is installing gentoo to something like say... Fedora Core 4?
<3> Tinned_Tuna: Gentoo has much nicer documentation.
<16> hello how to remove vodka from a sofa?
<8> Well, I just went through and enabled all of them.
<8> user_____: Fire.
<14> Tinned_Tuna, it's like reading a book instead of watching a movie, and the book doesn't ****
<3> user_____: Throw the sofa away and buy a new one.
<3> :)
<2> Tinned_Tuna: no installer
<15> ??
<15> no installer?
<3> user_____: I really have no idea.
<16> no sofa throwing please
<2> Tinned_Tuna: that is right
<15> how do you install it then?
<3> user_____: Not a Gentoo-related question, I don't think.
<2> Tinned_Tuna: w/ standard linux commnads from a livecd
<13> Tinned_Tuna, if you want the installer.. use the Tutoo :)
<15> ok, lol
<4> user_____: can't just let it evaporate?
<3> -O2 versus -Os @ GCC [3.3,3.4,4.0]?



<13> Tutoo is gentoo based
<16> yes but gentoo using drives to vodka drinking; but shame on me I'm currently on a windows pc
<4> user_____: i mean, i use vodka to clean my screen and its gone in no time
<15> lol
<3> I heard that as of 3.3, -Os has become a very powerful optimization.
<16> but it's vodka with some sirup
<15> i drink vodka!
<15> so i get a live CD
<17> i have gentoo ~amd64 compiled with 64bit registers.Is it possible to compile in 32 bit for some incompatible apps?
<15> then i go through, and compile every binary, by hand?
<2> psofa: use a 32bit chroot
<16> drink vodjka you'll fing out
<4> sandman: -Os enables optimisations that should make things smaller. -O2 enables them, and some others that might make things bigger but should still make them faster
<16> find
<2> psofa: #gentoo-amd64 is a place to check out
<17> ok
<18> when I unmask the new amarok beta, it tries to pull in kdelibs3.4. I have kde3.5 installed, anyone know if I'm doing something wrong?
<17> ty
<15> does it have dependency checking?
<8> root_____: Hello, security hazard! :P
<14> user_____, perhaps you should find a different chanel to ask in
<4> Tinned_Tuna: have a look through the install handbook on gentoo.org if you want to know what installing gentoo entails
<15> ok :)
<2> charles`: it may only work on the 3.4 libs
<15> cheers
<4> Tinned_Tuna: gentoo has one of the most powerful package managers i've ever used ;)
<2> Tinned_Tuna: soem of the best
<4> Tinned_Tuna: and many of the things it does wouldn't be possible if we didn't compile most things from source
<5> jeian, continue tomorrow then ;)
<15> cool
<18> brianw: yeah that's what I figured, but then I figured it might be pulling in some kde package that I didn't install and therefore unmask when I installed 3.5
<16> tried to join # vodka noone...
<16> (noone in vodka..)
<18> brianw: is there any way to see if the dependency is coming from amarok or from one of its dependencies?
<8> roger55: Blah. Still no eth0/eth1.
<8> And I have all the tulip/3com options enabled... >_<
<2> charles`: emerge -vpt
<5> jeian, then you didn't boot that new kernel
<4> Tinned_Tuna: the package manager looks after the compiling/installing part, but you get to tell it how to do it :)
<5> jeian, did you have /boot mounted and ran lilo?
<2> charles`: er, -vt , t enables p iirc
<8> Yeah.
<4> jeian: maybe you're booting the old kernel still? that happens sometimes.. turn on /proc/config.gz support and we'll see
<2> jeian: did you add the startup scripts to a runlevel?
<5> jeian, what does uname -a report ?
<16> vodka rulez
<5> brianw, ifconfig -a is not dependent on initscripts
<5> user_____, back on topic or we have to say good bye
<2> roger55: i never saw he was using ifconfig...
<5> brianw, it's been going on forever ;)
<5> kiesner, can you spare us your wisdom? thanks.
<2> he is probably using an old kernel, like you said ...
<8> Yeaaaaah, uname says I don't have the new kernel. *sob*
<18> brianw: thanks
<2> jeian: did you copy the bzImage to /boot ?
<1> alright, this is freaking me out
<8> I could've sworn I did. O_o
<5> jeian, ls -l /boot
<5> jeian, and check the time/date
<8> One sec, I just rebooted.
<2> jeian: is /boot a sep partition?
<19> Has anyone installed a 3ware escalade in a gentoo box ?
<8> brianw: Yeah.
<8> Hrm.
<1> not only do i get a weird message about masking, but i also get a message about a dependency for a package that has nothing to do with the emerge i just asked it to perform
<2> jeian: mount | grep boot , before copying over, make sure it is mounted
<1> http://rafb.net/paste/results/N7zU4y69.html
<20> im trying to install kde and i am hangking up when it trys to download a file called gtk+-2.6-smoothscroll-r5.patch
<21> How do I configure /etc.conf.d/net to not use dhcp on my cards?


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