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Comments:
<0> Kiirani: need help :p
<1> Autie: No that doesn't thell servers list of were I can download manually the package. There should be another option I forgot which.
<2> Autie, I think I'll be fine, I'm just afraid that everyone hates me because I acted like an idiot earlier.
<3> I AM IN GENTOOOOO :D :D :D :D (virgin gentoo user)
<4> arbiter_dev: thanks. Though it looks like my current glibc is newer than their newest
<5> tdr: emerge portage works, but >>> Updating Portage cache: 52%Segmentation fault
<0> Kiirani: oh, didn't notice
<2> Autie, lucky you :P
<6> Have some problems with display, have to move my display picture in monitor settings (manual), bet after rebooting in windows it is wrong again and i have to move back :(
<0> hehe
<7> Ynusis, emerge -vpD portage ... how long is your list?
<2> I was rude anyway, so meh.. That's acting like an idiot :\
<8> Kiirani: working now?
<2> brianw, working on the guide, yep.
<8> Kiirani: let us know
<9> what is the best? Linux Debian or Linux Knoppix?
<7> gamboa000, knoppix IS debian
<8> gamboa000: both
<10> windows NT 4 is the best
<2> Ok, well this thing says I need oss emulation, and my alsa configuration is different, so I figure I'll copy what they have down at the bottom and remove lines that are already set
<11> brianw: hi there again... I pinged 4.2.2.1 and I got a Destintion Host Unreachable, so I guess it's a matter of bad routing
<7> Kiirani, you used alsaconf?
<6> Is there in kde or console some kind of windows install/uninstall tool ? to see what i have emerged and what to unemerge ?
<8> jors: yes, you have wrong gw set most likely
<11> brianw: well, I tried to set it as I always did... route add default gw private_ip and it showed up correctly
<8> jors: route -n|grep UG
<2> tdr, yes.
<2> tdr, but my config doesn't match the one in the guide o.O
<5> tdr: emerge -vpD portage -> [ebuild R ] sys-apps/portage-2.0.54 -build -doc (-selinux) 0 kB
<7> Kiirani, alsaconf tends to chop the alsa file weird soemtimes, yes
<11> brianw: and what will that search for?
<12> goodmorning my textbased gentoo lovers lol
<8> jors: whay the system thinks is the deafault gateway
<7> Ynusis, add a u in there too and see
<8> jors: you are dual booting or what?
<12> anybody feeling happy with myth? Great, man i got these annoying sound problems with it. :( prebuffering and stuff.
<11> brianw: no, i'm on a linux box and trying to install gentoo from the live cd
<11> sorry, on a windows box right now
<8> jors: only one box?
<11> yes
<11> that's why i must reboot to do tests xD
<8> jors: you have a router?
<11> yes
<5> tdr: output of emerge -vupD portage http://nopaste.php-q.net/192898
<8> jors: it has a dhcp server?
<13> i have 2 questions. lets say i am installing a big package like kde. then i decide to stop the installation in the middle, by pressing ctrl+c. would it be possible to continue/resume installation from the point where i stopped it?
<8> krz: no
<11> brianw: yes, but i always prefer to ***ign ip's by hand (and it worked since now)
<8> jors: did you try using the dhcp server for it?
<13> the 2nd question. what if i decide not to install it at all anymore. how would i remove/clean the packages it downloaded?
<11> brianw: no, but i guess it's a good option to try :P
<8> krz: let me elaborate, a large package like ooo, will have to start over, but kde which is alot of smaller packages will start up on the package it was last compiling'
<14> Spunx: check the pci latency of the card with lspci -v, and increase the buffer size in /etc/asound.conf
<13> brianw ok. just to understand. portage first downloads the necessary packages before compiling right?
<4> bah. I'm thinking I will just reinstall. Prolly reformat my system hdd too...
<8> krz: one at a time
<4> but not tonight. tonight --> bed
<11> xD
<15> hello anybody knows a complete list of mime types???
<13> brianw ok. lets say it downloads 20 of the 50 packages, and then i stop it. would it be possible to get rid/undo the packages it downloaded?
<15> with specific file extensions
<8> krz: if you to dl them all first: emerge -f kde && emerge kde
<8> krz: it installed those 20, not just downloaded them
<13> ah
<13> would it be possible to uninstall and remove those 20 packages?
<13> lets say, because i dont want to install the software anymore
<11> brianw: ok, i'll try the route -n thing once i've set up the network, and i'll try router's dhcp too... c u now
<8> krz: use emerge.log to see which were merged, and use emerge -C to unmerge them
<13> i see
<13> so at times, a linux system can get very messy with unfinshed packages
<8> krz: going in reverse order of installation
<13> but wouldnt you have to do emerge -C for each package?
<13> its a tedious job
<8> krz: well you should decide what you want and not ctrl-c as an after thought
<14> krz: be careful, cd /var/db/pkg/kde-base/ && emerge -C *
<7> Ynusis, well since emerge works, you could just go on and update world when you're done. or you could stop and update now then go on. it should at some point just fix itself.. could be the python version update that's doing it
<13> ctrl+c was just an example. like lets say my internet connection goes down in the middle of the process
<13> or system crashes, etc
<14> krz: it was only an example
<2> Ok. The alsa oss thing doesn't work, and that's the only thing in the skype guide that I hadn't already done getting sound working. My mic still doesn't work. Considering I have working audio (everywhere, note, including SKYPE) do I really need to continue with this?
<16> emerge --depclean removes all dependencies that are no longer needed
<8> LinuxBlues: add an = in front no?
<16> perhaps that's of some use to you
<13> _T***adar ah thats good to know
<14> brianw: no
<7> Kiirani, did you do modules-update and restart alsa after you changed the alsa file?
<8> krz: emerge -f first and no need for net connection
<2> tdr, ah, thank you, I'll try that
<16> krz: use it like this: emerge -pv --depclean
<16> krz: it'll tell you what it wants to delete without deleting it
<8> LinuxBlues: if you have the version, don't you need the =?
<16> you can remove the -p (pretend) if you agree with --depclean
<8> nope
<13> hmm interesting
<14> brianw: test it for yourself if you don't believe what I say
<16> but in my experience depclean is over-enthousiastic most of the time
<13> ill try to remember that
<8> LinuxBlues: just did, heh
<16> you can add packages that you don't want to delete to world with a special option, --depclean will tell you how
<2> Oh geez not this again
<8> all of kde's deps will not neccesarily be in thay dir though
<2> * Unloading ALSA modules ... [ !! ]
<16> lol
<7> depclean likes to clean out things you actually kind of need too someitmes
<2> It was the copy paste!!!!!
<8> heh
<16> now that's a vague reason to kick
<17> Kiirani: Can you please find something important to do?
<2> it's -your- distro that made me do it *sticks her tongue out*
<10> i dunno Kiirani, GenBot had a killer comeback
<7> Kiirani, /etc/init.d/alsasound zap ; /etc/init.d/alsasound start
<10> i don't know how you can recover
<13> ext3 to FAT is ok?
<13> transferring files i mean
<10> it's fine
<16> FAT ****s :)
<13> but not ext3 to ntfs right?
<10> to/from doesn't matter
<7> krz, you shouldn't try to write to ntfs from linux unless you are doing it over the net using samba or something
<13> arbiter_dev i wish i could say that. i have an external hd (ntfs). can transfter files from ext3 to ntfs directly
<14> brianw: well, not all deps, but depclean should show most of them, and krz was suggested to read /var/log/emerge.log
<16> krz: if you can mount it
<13> tdr yea im using a program called WinSCP
<14> (anyway)
<16> then you can write it
<7> krz, oh, that works too. just don't stick your ntfs drive into a linux box and try writing to it
<13> _T***adar i can mount it, even open it (read it). but cant write to it
<2> Yeah, the alsa oss thing still isn't working.
<8> LinuxBlues: depclean always wants to unmerge stuff i need. checked it out tonight and it wanted to get rid of bc... hehe
<2> And I still don't understand what this has to do with my mic :\
<17> Kiirani: Must I pay you to leave me alone?
<18> Hi, can someone think of a bash line to: Show depgraph for all installed packages to sdtout. Perhapas something like equery -f list .... (i dont know regex:)!
<14> brianw: depclean is broken, is you read the advice ;-) be careful
<13> tdr but its taking forever to tranfer my files
<8> LinuxBlues: it was a pretend :)
<14> heh
<2> although, payment would be nice..
<13> tdr im tranferring over 35gb of files. and its taking ages over the network
<7> krz, gee, i wonder why
<8> LinuxBlues: is you read the advice >?>?
<14> brianw: s/is/if sorry
<8> Kiirani: leave the bot alone please
<13> tdr would have been a lot better if it tranferred directly to the hd
<2> . . .
<13> ntfs -> ext3 = no problem. ext3 -> ntfs = problem
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