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<0> Kartagis: np
<1> Kartagis: check out this site: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Installing_3rd_Party_Ebuilds
<2> its weird tho, i though that just by deleting the partition itself everything in it will be gone!
<3> nDuff: both drwxr-xr-x owner root root
<4> Carloz: Well, what do you mean "gone"? Deleted from the disk, or inaccessible from the OS?
<2> scenestar: i didnt ask for ur help so shove those comments right up u know what.
<2> nDuff: deleted from the disk
<5> rm -Rf
<4> Carloz: Deleting the partition will make the content inaccessible; it won't actually make it *gone* until you lay down a new partition table and set of filesystems on top, or overwrite the disk with some other content.
<6> -p #1
<3> nDuff: ?
<7> Carloz: lay off the attitude.
<8> scenestar: is the -f really necessary?
<5> it helps
<9> I have AMD 32bit 2.2 and i don't know wich one of gentoo? alpha amd64 hppa ppc (32 bit) ppc (64 bit) sparc64 ?



<0> roger55: thanks, that would save a lot of time :)
<5> amd64
<9> I have AMD 32bit 2.2 and i don't know wich one of gentoo? alpha amd64 hppa ppc (32 bit) ppc (64 bit) sparc64 ?
<5> amd64
<4> tender: If you "ls -l /var", does it show /var/run?
<9> ru sure?
<5> no im not
<5> take ppc and alpha
<9> becuse tha's for 64 bit cpus
<0> ruiner_zer0: do you think you could please use proper english?
<9> ppc 32 bit right?
<10> ruiner_zer0, x86
<9> no my english so bad
<5> yes
<11> x86
<4> ruiner_zer0: PPC is for PowerPC chips, not anything from Intel or AMD.
<5> it is 32 but
<4> ruiner_zer0: You want x86 for 32-bit systems.
<0> ruiner_zer0: it's better than aolspeak
<10> ruiner_zer0, are you talking about a keyword or what stage to use or what?
<9> where is X86
<5> the internet
<9> i don't see on site
<9> i just see these amd64 ppc (ppc) ppc (g4) ppc (64 bit - 32bit userland) ppc (64 bit - 64bit userland) sparc64
<9> ?
<4> ruiner_zer0: Then look somewhere else.
<5> god, these people are worse than ubuntu users
<9> aha
<9> but that's Liv CD
<9> LIVE
<5> installer live cd
<0> scenestar: soo true
<9> Gentoo 2006.0 LiveCD
<3> nDuff: ls -l /var says "/var/run permission denied" and lists some other directory
<9> (713 megabytes)
<9> x86
<5> read the guides
<5> idiot
<5> and quit wasting our time
<12> hi, i unmerged hotplug and then re-merged it but g-v-m is failing to notice plugged USB M*** Storage devices, i don't know what to do can anyone help, please?
<9> hmm you mean i can install Live cd ?
<4> ruiner_zer0: You can use the LiveCD to kick off an installation, yes.
<0> roger55: and to think he wasted all that being abusive when he could have just said `rtfm` ;)
<10> scenestar, come to #gentoo-ops when you've readjusted your attitude.
<9> so can u give me url for help?
<9> for know how can i install live cd?
<5> simple
<4> ruiner_zer0: The regular installation docs cover it.
<5> its just a name really
<5> from the cd you can start the installer
<13> ElPenguin: `rtfm` aka Read The Friendly Manual ;-)
<4> ruiner_zer0: There aren't any steps which are different between the Live CD and the basic boot CD.
<9> I'm here but i don't find
<9> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml
<10> ? handbook
<14> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml
<5> gegroet medelander
<4> ruiner_zer0: Don't look for anything livecd-specific; Just try following the regular install docs.
<15> i feel like emerging something. can someone recommend some nice filemanager ?
<0> LinuxBlues: read the fine manual, where i come from, honest ;)
<13> heh



<5> read the fsckn manual
<13> scenestar: that's what rude people think, yes
<16> thats all well and true but for some of us it takes time
<13> mans are great!
<5> err, the gtk installer even uses it
<5> :P
<0> LinuxBlues: we all know it's that, we just don't like to say it in this channel ;)
<13> heh
<0> LinuxBlues: that's what #otw is for :-p
<0> that place scares me
<5> what is that place
<0> scenestar: #otw
<17> ElPenguin, what about fubar then :)
<0> picochu: best left unmentioned :-p
<18> can anyone explain why glibc2.4 will ONLY emerge with nptl and nptlonly?? for a while i think i knew that NPTL would improve performance, because for at least one, it lighter weight, but didn't know going forward it would be REQUIRED, and not default.
<17> fouled up beyond all recongnition :P but we know that the REAL definition don't we :)
<12> i unmerged hotplug and then re-merged it but g-v-m is failing to notice plugged USB M*** Storage devices, i don't know what to do can anyone help, please?
<5> o common, why are you freenoders allways so pg-13
<0> picochu: in my line of work, it's a daily phrase
<19> does postfix allow receiving emails too?
<20> scenestar: not freenode, just this channel
<5> ah ok
<17> ElPenguin, what do you do for living?
<21> is there a way i could tell portage where WWWLib.h is so it stops complaining
<5> alex-weej , what does fstab say?
<12> scenestar, i don't use fstab
<18> picochu: fouled up beyond all recognition
<13> Kartagis: yes
<0> picochu: well, technically php development, but if you saw it, it's not php :-p
<0> ElPenguin: it's a language of it's own and it's uncommented, it's like reading heiroglyphs
<0> not what you want to maintain, it's being rewritten thank god
<19> LinuxBlues: do I need to edit master.cf or does main.cf cover both?
<17> ElPenguin, never like php in the first place.... it is almost as bad as perl :P
<21> RiverRat, can you help? you there?
<13> Kartagis: main.cf afaik
<5> picochu what do you use/.
<6> picochu: that is an ignorant statement
<5> ruby on rais?
<0> picochu: perl happens to be one of my favourite languages...
<6> php is MUCH worse :)
<0> Knaw_: agreed, but my job provides well for me :)
<22> hey im having some trouble mounting a card in a card reader: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/TIyhIO78.html ... i take it from the I/O errors I wont be able to access it
<5> nah
<17> scenestar, I'd go for ruby on rails or turbogears
<6> ElPenguin: i think perl is a very likeable, crazy language
<5> thats just you mounting it as read onlu Bung
<0> picochu: i LIKE turbogears, but setting it up is a whore
<6> ElPenguin: php is just an invitation to disaster
<23> MetaPhaze: You could try adding a link from whereever it is to /usr/include
<22> scenestar: thats from dmesg, i havent done anything yet
<0> picochu: django is better
<12> hal is dead. i can unplug things and they remain in lshal. of course, if i plug anything new in it doesn't show up. any ideas?
<0> Knaw_: cpan. Nuff said
<5> Bung , its automatically mounted as read only
<5> period
<21> RiverRat, ok thanks i'll try it
<17> ElPenguin, i can get most of what cpan has from python too
<6> turbogears seemed easy to setup for me, but i was already using cherrypy and sqlite and sqlobject so it wasn't much of a transition
<22> scenestar: ok, but when I # mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb ... special device does not exist
<17> and python code are way more readable
<6> i had to learn kid, that was about it
<6> picochu: that's part of perl's charm
<5> yeah well Bung just add it to fstba
<3> nDuff: my system was perfect, and I was using etc-update. last update I used cfg-update, then reboot and all ok, the problem rised after an emerge man-pages, and a reboot, in other words seems the first emerge after the cfg-update switch. is it possible?
<6> people need to lighten up about languages
<6> php is the only true devil
<0> picochu: i do program python, but i don't enjoy it so much. I personally love perl. I also love ruby, just the docs ****. I'm a schemer first and foremost though ;)
<22> i add the same point though? /dev/sda1 ?
<7> only problem i have with php is the inherent security disaster of it all
<4> ElPenguin: What's hard about setting up TurboGears? ez_update makes the whole thing automatic.
<0> nDuff: my boss wanted to go with centos on the servers, so i can't do that
<7> sick.
<6> Fieldy: exactly, it goes out of it's way to silently Just Work, never complain, and figure out what these html wonkers turned "coders" think it should do
<0> nDuff: and i'm talking apache


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