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<0> _AxS_: yueah.. fool all applications into thinking that its a normal connection .. while the inderlying sw handles the dirty stuff
<1> Fieldy: yeah i'm ***uming he does have full control over the computers connected to it..
<2> I was just hoping someone would say "ftp is on its way out"
<3> klander00, are you alking about multicast?
<1> kojiro: you mean its not out already?
<2> _AxS_: alas, no
<0> _AxS_: no, ***uming i dont have control over the network
<3> klander00, where one packet goes do more than one computer
<0> alex6z: yes something like that
<0> something along those lines guys
<1> klander00: you don't have control ovre the network meaning youdon't have control over the OSes on the systems?
<0> _AxS_: i can run a client on all of the machines participating in the download
<0> _AxS_: but thats it
<3> klander00, I don't think there are very many program that make use of multicast abilities of ethernet and TCP/IP. I think you should set up an ipv6 lan and get multcast all configured and then write a program to do what you want :)
<0> alex6z: :S
<4> o
<1> klander00: right. you gotta write that yourself. and i don't see a way to do it generically..
<5> hello. i have a problem with bash-completion. if i write emerge [tab] i get: emerge bash: cd: ": No such file or directory
<5> what should i do?
<0> _AxS_: just trying to realize of its theoretically possible
<1> alex6z: multicast takes the same file and copies it at the router level. he wants to byp*** a 64kb download limit he has on each system by requesting multiple downloads at once from the source.
<1> alex6z: sort of reversing multicast
<5> some versions: bash-completion-20060301 gentoo-bashcomp-20050516 eselect-1.0
<1> klander00: oh sure, its possible in a special case, if you use a file transfer protocol that can resume and you study parallel programming.
<6> why is the default profile no-nptl insted of 2006.0?
<0> _AxS_: yeah i know that.. but i wanted it to be protocol independent
<1> GUIPEnguin: that's a good question -- my guess would be because the livecd was compiled no-nptl
<1> klander00: not possible.
<0> _AxS_: its definately possible for HTTP and FTP cuz download managers do it
<7> klander00: _AxS_ topic please
<1> doc|home: sorry
<0> where do i go for this topic btw
<7> /topic
<0> #networking ?
<7> ah ok, hmmm, possibly. or ##gentoo-pub or #otw
<1> klander00: sure
<8> Hi, do we have openal 1.1 on gentoo ?
<9> _AxS_, it's because he used the x86 stage3 instead of i686
<10> hi
<1> roger55: Ahh
<11> what is a good image viewer, thats similar to the default winxp one (keyb arrows can switch img in same folder)
<12> Ack
<12> I was moving around partitions and now runscript is going nuts about mtimes
<13> im getting something odd when i boot up -- the boot messages are claiming that it canntot cache service dependancies due to a read only file system -- this is a brand new install
<12> Constantly going "recaching dependency info (mtimes differ)"
<13> there appears to be nothing in dmesg about it
<12> Can someone tell me where the cache is so I can completely rm it ?
<14> Ykstort: emerge --oneshot baselayout
<12> kthnx
<12> >.<
<12> su
<12> su: Authentication failure
<12> Sorry.
<12> It didn't give me a chance to give a p***
<12> :\
<12> I'm in wheel dammit
<15> are you sure that you gave a p*** to root ?
<12> I never had a chance to
<12> I just type 'su', get that output and su exits
<15> you should do it first time being chrooted
<12> might it be because /etc/pam.d/su is only readable by root ?
<12> wait
<16> quick q: do the packages I build with quickpkg contain my current config or the pkg's default config? more precisely, if I quickpkg world, do I need to preserve my /etc dir?
<2> Ykstort: switch terminals and log in as root, fix your system, then su might work...
<12> nvm
<12> su is suid root
<12> kojiro, hopefully after emerge --oneshot baselayout the prob will be fixed
<17> check your logs, various files in /var/log/*
<12> I did baselayout, still doesn't work
<16> no one uses quickpkg here?
<12> Wtf happened to su/PAM >.>
<18> can i install gentoo from a dvd?
<19> eliasz: if you can find a dvd to boot off of, sure
<16> eliasz:: you can follow the custom livecd tutorial and make a bootable dvd, yes
<18> antarus, ? i have a blank dvd...no blank cd's
<2> peachy: I'm pretty sure they contain your current config, but no promises
<18> can i burn the iso to a dvd?
<17> yes
<19> eliasz: you will need to find another liveDVD then..I think
<2> eliasz: or you could download the knoppix dvd
<17> it'll boot off a dvd as far as i know.
<16> kojiro:: thnx, I'm in the process of testing that, I think they include all the configs in the ebuild but not neccesarily all ***ociated configs related to the pkg (eg. apache vhost config)
<17> if the file was installed by portage, quickpkg will pick it up, changed or otherwise.
<18> hmm...can i just use an old 2005.0 cd? will i have any downside?...
<17> like you said not vhost stuff
<18> altho i did wana try the graphical
<17> eliasz: again. just write the iso to a dvd and i am rather sure it will boot.
<16> Fieldy:: yep, a bit of a shame, you'd hope that if the ebuild creates a dir quickpkg would then tar & bz2 the contents of that dir not just the stuff emerge put in there
<18> k, sounds good 2 me...thanx
<17> dunno. i don't see it that way. i use backups for more coverage
<16> Fieldy:: yea but I need to clone 1 box to create several dozen, so it'd be rather neat if it did :)
<17> yeah it's not really meant for that kind of usage
<16> Im thinking of just going the stage4 way ..
<20> hi
<20> can someone maybe tell me which linker I need on a x86_64 system (athlon xp X2)
<21> pSy: athlon xp isn't a x86_64 system...
<20> oops... athlon 64 x2 I meant :D
<20> sorry
<16> pSy:: # ld -v
<16> GNU ld version 2.16.1
<22> how do I tell emerge to emerge a specific package to a specific location?
<23> damn, links is still emerging .....
<24> Kartagis: make an ebuild
<23> been like an hour now
<20> Kartagis: the package name with "="
<19> Kartagis: you can't merge to specific locations unless they are in a different ROOT
<24> or that
<21> Kartagis: export ROOT="/location" && emerge blah
<22> antarus: in a different root? what's that mean?
<21> unset ROOT
<25> any chances for a entity diagram designer or something like that for linux?
<22> oh, what LinuxBlues said?
<19> Kartagis: yeah...read the mnapage for emerge
<25> entity-relationship diagram
<19> Kartagis: basically you get a new VDB in the localtion
<21> Kartagis: dont forget to unset it later...
<20> peachy: no I don't have an installed gentoo system on this machine
<19> LinuxBlues: no need to export it raelly :p
<21> antarus: manpage prevents to use it directly or on make.conf, so I told what I've read
<21> read it
<16> psy:: this is #gentoo ..
<23> xort-x11-......... isnt that X ??
<20> peachy: yes... I use a gentoo but not on the x64 machine
<20> DTGorm: xorg-x11 is X
<23> im trying to install links and its taking wayyyy too long and i think its compiling for x also when i have -X in my USE
<20> DTGorm: you can look what is compiling in /var/log/emerge.log
<26> anyone else having any trouble emerging qjackctl lately?
<23> is it normal for a program like links to still compile for X when you have the flag -X set?
<20> DTGorm: I think no
<20> iamethos: I never used it
<27> DTGorm: check its deps USE
<27> DTGorm: like 'emerge -avt links'
<22> LinuxBlues: when I did what you said, it attempted to emerge 81 packages instead of just 2. how come?
<21> Kartagis: when you modify ROOT you'll need all RDEPEND (runtime-depend) only DEPEND (compile-depend) are installed on /
<23> well too late now, its been running for over an hour
<23> i did just emerge links when i first started it
<23> now its gzipping the man pages and mking executables
<21> Kartagis: so, probably, you have a new 79 RDEPEND packages to install
<13> im getting something odd when i boot up -- the boot messages are claiming that it canntot cache service dependancies due to a read only file system -- this is a brand new install
<20> DTGorm: in future you should use emerge -pv <packet> ...than you see which packets would be compiled
<13> im getting something odd when i boot up -- the boot messages are claiming that it canntot cache service dependancies due to a read only file system -- this is a brand new install
<13> there appears to be nothing in dmesg about it
<28> bah
<1> W8TAH: can you rafb.net/paste your fstab?
<29> ok, so my computer works fine but i want use it as an internet gateway / router, so i add iptables and netfilter into my kernel. but when i do this, all networking stops?
<1> vyrus001: hav eyou added any rules?
<13> no - -sadly - i have not installed the gui yet, so no web access
<29> _AxS_ no... lol i took it out of my kernel
<26> W8TAH : links
<29> _AxS_ it comes with some rules
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