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<0> the compaq thingy
<1> studeringaaron: You might prefer ubuntu
<2> s/gtk is gnome/gtk is of gnome/
<3> LORD-VADER: sorry boss is here
<4> seems alot like ubuntu that I was using a while back
<5> lhunath: gtk comes from the gnome project, and is the basis for gnome, but you don't need any gnome desktop management part to install gtk (the same for qt and kde)
<5> (ops qt doesn't come from the kde project, of sure)
<0> : - (
<1> a_l_e: Just check to see if it is emerged already. It could have been a dependancy
<5> RiverRat: what is emerged?
<6> studeringaaron: gentoo has a pretty steep learning curve sometimes. It's usually what somebody will move to once they've gotten to know some other distro and gotten tired of it's limitations. Quick way to know if you're ready for gentoo. does the prospect of compiling a kernel, from scratch, terrify you, make you cringe, or just make you say "ho hum, another X minutes of my life waiting for the computer"?
<1> gnome-extra/gtkhtml <-- It renders the emails.
<2> a_l_e: quite aware ;P
<7> a_l_e: I think you are wrong. I think gtk was made before gnome was planned gtk means gimp toolkit if I remember right
<3> LORD-VADER: ok what did i miss
<6> gtk came first, gnome was built on gtk, much like kde is built on qt. tho much of what drives gtk development is gnome stuff.
<1> a_l_e: And its a gtk package that's filed in a gnome directory.
<5> RiverRat: i've merged sylpheed-claws this morning (and it was working with spell checking before). just after emerging and restaring sylpheed-claws it crashed on creating a new mail window. disativating the spell check avoids the crash
<0> KaOS-bEat: this is what i did now.. i did touch /dev/hda
<0> KaOS-bEat: and there's a file now
<6> LORD-VADER: things in /dev should not be files. they should be device nodes...
<3> yes but that file probably won't point to your cdrom device
<5> Vinky: not sure, but i thing that today it's the gnome project and not the gimp one which takes care of gtk. but i could be wrong. and yes, originally gtk was created for the gimp!
<0> KaOS-bEat: so what i did is i inserted a cd and tried to mount it
<0> its asking me to specify file type
<3> what does demeg | /dev tell you
<3> dmesg would be better then demeg here
<5> (on gtk.org there is no sign of project dependency on gimp nor on gentoo, though)
<0> Skunky: i removed the hda file
<8> can I run tightvnc (vncserver) on an existing display?
<6> LORD-VADER: I've gathered that.
<9> I have installed a game and I want to play it with my normal user account.. but I can't .. I added it to games group using gp***wd -a user games and I did export PATH=$PATH:/usr/games/bin ... but when I do ls /usr/games/bin I get permision denied ?!!
<6> yuriks: no. but you can run x11vnc on an existing display.
<0> okie where am i to post the dmesg output?
<8> hmmm
<6> hawking: log out and back in as that user, after you added it to the games group?
<10> is there any particular reason that no stage 3 for the pentium 4 is around in release 2006.0 ?
<6> hawking: groups info is only read on login
<9> Skunky:oh I see .. ok I'll do that
<11> hey i have set up gentoo and when i boot i get the command prompt.. now i want to setup KDE + XGL can someone help me?
<6> Adriaan: please see the /topic
<3> Skunky: you how to run opengl on a tightvnc display?
<11> skunky, your right thanks
<0> guys..any help?
<6> KaOS-bEat: NO idea.
<5> RiverRat: gtkhtml is not installed here (and installing it would ask me to emerge about 30 other packages!). btw, sylpheed-claws works as long as the spell check is not activated!
<0> please i got something to copy here
<3> too bad...
<5> (and +spell is in the use clauses)
<3> it seems possible, but it seems difficult too
<6> LORD-VADER: I dunno what you've done, so I can't help you.
<12> does anyone here have any experience installing a prism54 wifi card in gentoo? I found a howto in the gentoo wiki but it is from 2003 and I know a lot of the wireless base scripts have changed since then
<8> lol, it did
<3> LORD-VADER: be more specificon what you want to do, and give more info
<1> a_l_e: I saw you say that earlier, that's why I didn't say anything else (about +spell). I've never used sylpheed so I didn't know it didn't render html email.
<0> okie..rite now my cdrom is mountable due there's no anything got to do in /dev/ with cdrom
<0> no hda hdc or even hda
<0> the the output of dmesg is
<6> LORD-VADER: internal cdrom? usb cdrom? scsi cdrom?
<8> Skunky: thanks
<6> LORD-VADER: did you delete all of /dev or something?
<0> ide_setup: hda=ide-scsi
<0> hda: Compaq CRD-8402B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
<0> absolutely nope
<4> thanks for your imput skunky im sure ill be back in again
<0> INTERNAL CDROM
<6> LORD-VADER: you've told it to use ide-scsi tho? so your cdrom is /dev/scd0 or /dev/sr0, not hda
<0> there's sg0 but not what u said
<6> LORD-VADER: sg is scsi-generic. if you didn't compile support for scsi cdroms, you may need to go back and do that.
<0> let me check in my kernel config
<13> Skunky, can you maybe give a hint whats goes wrong with my installation please ?
<14> No one know how can I try to repair a .tgz archive ? :(
<6> swoke: what's wrong with it?
<5> RiverRat: ok, but it's not a problem of html mails (it's not set to produce them, so...). ok, thanks... i think i will wait and see :-(
<1> a_l_e: I did get that same glibc pointer error though.
<14> Skunky: I got a file in this archive which is corrupted, so I can't extract it. I don't care about this file, but others are really important.
<6> y***ine: is /boot a separate partition? or is it part of /? you might just be inside a goofy symlink..
<0> well i did compile support for scsi
<14> I'm just looking for a way to extract everything else. :)
<6> LORD-VADER: scsi is just 1 part. you need scsi, AND scsi-cdrom AND scsi-generic
<15> what command will let me unpack a src.rpm?
<13> Skunky, on the same device but a separate partition
<6> y***ine: Hrm. I dunno.
<7> magari: tried rpm?
<6> swoke: can you gunzip the archive?
<13> Skunky, http://pastebin.com/724259
<0> okie...i did compile support for scsi cdrom
<16> Can someone give me an approximate idea of how long after a KDE release, KDE becomes stable in portage (on average, or ballpark - realize this varies)
<14> Skunky: Yes, until the file, after, no, I can't.
<6> swoke: you've tried with just gunzip?
<14> Skunky: hmmm, I'm on :)
<6> y***ine: um. what's your /?
<6> y***ine: is that from cfdisk or something?
<13> yes
<6> y***ine: um. ok. does the machine boot?
<13> Skunky, thats the problem i can not emerge grub :s
<6> y***ine: so you're on the livecd
<0> guys i've posted the full output of dmesg at http://pastebin.com/724263
<13> Skunky, yes so i dont want to reboot now untill im sure everything is working
<14> Skunky: Ok, gunzip seems to work.
<0> guys anyhelp?
<17> no
<6> y***ine: ok. you've got a small partition that's supposed to be /boot, you've got a swap partition, you've got another linux partition that's about a gig, and a 15 gig lvm partition, right?
<17> :)
<13> Skunky, and i have 2 other devises /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc where each has one big LVM partition
<18> ola
<14> Skunky: Ok, gunzip is done, without any trouble. But I guess it will be the same now, isn't it ?
<6> swoke: maybe, maybe not. all tar does is cat a bunch of files together, one after the other. so, in theory, if it does barf on something, you should still be able to extract any other file by explicitly listing it
<13> Skunky, this is my fstab : http://pastebin.com/724273
<19> what do i do to install itcl on amd64, the configure scripts fails ...
<6> LORD-VADER: I think you're missing something.... hold on.
<14> Skunky: ok ok, gonna try this, thanks a lot for help ! :~
<14> :)
<20> Trying to install ALSA (with the alsa-drivers ebuild), but whenever I try and test it I get this: "Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0000000000000000 RIP: ", more output here: http://pastebin.com/724277
<6> LORD-VADER: did you actually put support for your ide chipset in this kernel?
<0> Skunky: okie, btw, are u the one who did the skunky sources?
<0> skunky: how can i check that?
<6> LORD-VADER: i do no sources. I don't program. (: kernel config... lspci to see what the chipset is, and then make sure it's turned on in the kernel config.
<14> LORD-VADER: cd /usr/src/linux then make menuconfig, and check.
<6> y***ine: ok. now. from the livecd, but not inside the chroot, do you see everything mounted correctly?
<0> swoke: under which it is?
<0> i dont have any lspci or lsusb
<6> LORD-VADER: emerge pci-utils
<0> Skunky: i'm doing
<13> Skunky, yeah it looks better
<6> LaptopOm: I take it the kernel-included drivers don't work?
<0> it seem i've compiled that package
<6> y***ine: inside the chroot will look goofy, because mount and such won't know it's a chroot
<6> LORD-VADER: then you have lspci
<20> I haven't actually tried them, but I've read the onboard sound I have is only supported in the latest (1.0.11 alsa-driver) package
<20> But i'll try the in-kernel ones
<0> i re-emerged it..now it has
<6> LaptopOm: new hardware, darn them, can't they just be happy with the old stuff! (:
<13> Skunky, but im wondering why does grub fails to install
<6> y***ine: i'm not a grub user at all. what's grub complaining about?
<0> http://pastebin.com/724281 my lspci output
<13> Skunky, bootmanager
<6> y***ine: I know what grub DOES, but what's it complaining about?
<0> Skunky: anything i missed?
<13> Skunky, okay i missunderstood your question here is the error message : http://pastebin.com/724286
<6> y***ine: it says you've mounted /boot read-only. mount -o remount,rw /boot
<6> LORD-VADER: can you post your .config also?
<0> okie
<13> mount: block device /dev/sda1 is write-protected, mounting read-only :s
<6> y***ine: uh. why is it write-protected? it's a hard drive isn't it?
<13> yes a scsi harddrive
<21> has any one got dropshadows working with the newmetacity?
<6> y***ine: ok. so, why is it write-protected? (:
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