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<0> poised: it says I'm offering you chat
<1> waldo: private messages are blocked
<1> waldo: freenode thing
<1> waldo: anyway it was the file we mentioned before
<2> Kavok: its a file that contains other files, kind of like a .zip file. but it stores all the file information, perms, access times etc etc
<1> waldo: if you look through the file you will see at the end a load of chmod and lpr calls
<0> poised I sent you some /msgs
<3> how do you unemerge php5?
<1> waldo: they are blocked are you registered
<0> poised: ah crap
<0> poised: no..
<4> morning
<3> emerge --unmerge "dev-lang/php-5.1.2"
<3> im trying that its not workn
<0> my NAT may be blocking dcc chat (?)
<5> kk
<5> Has anyone installed 'Jack***' before?
<6> paulzo: try emerge --unmerge dev-lang/php
<7> paulzo: emerge --unmerge "=dev-lang/php-5.1.2"
<0> poised.. how about skype/aim/whatever
<6> use s0ulslack he's smarter then me i guess ;)
<3> neither worked
<7> emerge -C =dev-lang/php-5.1.2 should
<3> how do you check which ones
<8> when'd gentoo quit doing stage 1 and stage 2's?!?
<7> either should have worked
<3> how do you see what you have emerged?
<8> I go offline for 2 months and you guys up and sellout :/
<0> poised: ahh! I see the chmod's you're talking about
<7> with emerge -s pkg_name or eix pkg_name (eix is third party)
<7> or emerge php -pv
<9> rxKaffee: we waited until you left so we could avoid this embar***ing confrontation
<1> waldo: /join #waldoprinter
<8> arbiter_dev: heh
<3> -apache +apache2
<8> so is there a stage3 I can use to make a system that'll work on my old 486 laptop still??
<3> is that good?
<3> im using apache2 but im having a problem with php pages loading
<10> wich hosting panel would you advise ?
<3> so i figured i needed to recomple
<11> rxKaffee: There was an i386 stage tarball last I checked. Do note that you're going to need about 7GB of HDD space to run Gentoo, unless you're using remote distfiles and portage repository
<8> AllenJB: I always have ;)
<8> I guess you guys haven't done so bad wihle I was away
<5> If I want to install 32bit on my AMD64 I use -march=athlon-xp and "CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"" ?
<12> is it possible to convert arch to gentoo?
<8> hmmm... it looks like stage 1's and 2's still exist out there...
<12> noticed that earlier
<8> so, there's just no info on 'em in the handbook or what?
<12> everyone fusses at me when I ask about em, saying they're not supported
<11> rxKaffee: Stage 1 & 2 aren't officially supported any more.
<11> Basically they were causing far too many problems with newbies making stupid mistakes and filing loads of buygs about them from what I gather.
<3> is there a way to take out a dependency when emering something?
<2> anyone know how to get the msg that scrolled by from emerge ?
<13> paulzo: no, there's a reason it's called a dependency.
<11> Plus from what I gather there's little advantage in doing stage 1/2 installs vs stage 3
<13> cliffd: shift-pgup?
<2> blackace: rebooted :(
<3> [ebuild N ] dev-java/blackdown-jre-1.4.2.03 -browserplugin +mozilla -nsplugin 0 kB
<14> paulzo, sometimes you can edit the use flags for the package
<3> its 0kb
<3> and im getting errors
<11> What's the /usr/portage/packages directory used for?
<13> cliffd: did you have PORT_LOGDIR in make.conf?
<14> paulzo: that just means you already downloaded it
<15> can i install gentoo amd64 from usb stick?
<3> is there a way to download it again?
<8> AllenJB: binary packages
<14> yeah..
<2> blackace: no, I didnt know about that option
<16> Hello, I am new to linux and am wondering if there is any software equivalent to circuit maker in windows?
<14> paulzo: all the downloaded files are stored in /usr/portage/distfiles
<11> paulzo: Certainly if you can put an environment similar to the ones the boot cd's give you.
<8> Toolah: eagle?
<11> paulzo: You can isntall Gentoo from most basic linux environments.
<14> paulzo: you can delete the files used by that package or all of them if you want
<13> Toolah: emerge -S circuit
<16> rxKaffee, ok, I will look those up, thx
<8> Toolah: you a student? your univ prb has a local library of that type software at the electrical engineering department
<16> rxKaffee, Yes, I am studying electronics but they only have circuit maker for us students
<17> Well, it's getting late. I'll continue on this tomorrow. Bye guys. Thanks for the help.
<8> Toolah: if you need to use the same file format for cl*** compatibility you might try running circuit maker in wine
<18> wow that new wobbly effect in xgl is annoying... it used to be so nice and now the thing is all over hthe place bouncing when i choose a menu.... lol
<19> icebreeze: do what i do... use a trippy background to continually remind yourself that the effects are sweeter than what most people have
<20> hi guys
<21> re
<21> ;D
<18> joesus: well it used to be really nice but i just installed it onto my desktop and whatever they updated made the bubble effect annoying as hell. like it used to just shake when i put my cursor over a menu or choose a menu... now its all over the place
<18> there has to be something i can change back
<11> Anyone know how I can get KDE (3.5.1) to update the K-menu without relogging? It used to do it if I did something like toggle the window list button, but that doesn't work anymore.
<11> s/3.5.1/3.5.2/
<19> hmm... not sure i've used the bubble effect
<21> is usualy mounted on /boot or under /mnt/boot ?
<21> i mean is boot ....
<11> TCZ: Boot is usually /boot
<21> AllenJB: hum.. ok then by default when logged in root i should be able to se my kernel and grub files in there right?
<11> TCZ: If it's mounted (***umnig you have /boot on a seperate partition) - it's not required to be mounted.
<11> I keep mine unmounted when I'm not updating my kernel - stops me doing stupid things with a working kernel =P
<21> ok.. cause i have it in fstab but when i boot i have an empty /boot and on boot it says "some local filesystem failed to mount (!!)"
<19> here's an issue i'm having: if i want to manually load wireless, i have to do ifconfig eth1 up, then iwconfig eth1 essid blah enc blah, then dhcpcd eth1
<21> its the only thing i can see thats not mounted from fstab
<11> TCZ: Does the fstab line have "noauto" on it?
<19> but when i run /etc/init.d/net.eth1 start, it hangs on "running dhcpcd"
<21> AllenJB: my line is: /dev/hda2 /boot ext2 default,noatime 1 2
<19> im thinking it's probably due to my /etc/conf.d/net file
<11> joesus: Check your logs (/var/log/everything/current or /var/log/messages) to see if there's any messages there that might tell you why dhcpcd is failing.
<21> AllenJB: this is the proper part yes.. if i mount it with mount /dev/hda2 /boot it works fine
<11> TCZ: OK. There's no "noauto" so linux will try to mount that at boot time.
<11> TCZ: That's slightly odd. Could you check the output of "dmesg" and also your log files (mainly /var/log/messages or /var/log/everything/current ) to see if there's any messages there about why it failed
<21> AllenJB: im on it
<19> AllenJB: all i got from the log was "dhcpcd[24693]: timed out waiting for a valid DHCP server response"
<16> rxKaffee, Wine? I heard that is really really had to set up and run, and slow, and way beyond a beginner
<11> joesus: That's odd. That basically says the DHCP server never sent a response. Unfortunately I haven't had much experiance with wrieless (atleast not that I've got to work yet =p ) so I'm not sure I can help much further.
<19> hmm
<19> guess it's time to post to the forum then
<22> Toolah: the games that actually work in wine run the same speed in wine as they did in native windows on my machine, using the default configuration
<21> AllenJB: I dont seem to find anything wrong
<21> AllenJB: besides alsa not loading my sound card lol
<22> Toolah: wine has made leaps and bounds over the past few months ;)
<21> AllenJB: but thats not important
<23> Triffid_Hunter, thats good news - I stopped using winex/cedega when my gaming performance dropped horribly at 3.0+; it used to outperform my windows machine in counter-strike
<24> anyone familiar with gnumeric?
<22> Awesome-o2000: I tried cedega, but I could never get it to even start..
<25> wich configurationfiles besides grub.conf (bootloader) do you have to change after installing a new kernel?
<22> axxel: you don't even need to change that one, depending on your setup
<11> axxel: That's it. The only other one you might want to edit is /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 if you've added new modules you want loaded at boot.
<23> I have to say having my grub.conf update automatically when I compile a new kernel is a nice red=hat feature. I use centos on my server but im putting gentoo on my desktop when the new video card comes in
<25> AllenJB okay.. thx
<16> how hard is wine to set up on a slow old laptop?
<25> even tough i'm changing from the gentoo patched kernel to the kernel.org vanilla?
<26> cant portage install a .deb package?
<25> oh no.. gotta go.. bye
<22> magari: deb packages are for debian, and even if you did install it, it probably wouldn't work too well
<26> Triffid_Hunter: I know but I really want http://www.getdemocracy.com/downloads/debian.php
<26> im addicted to current tv
<26> err
<26> http://www.getdemocracy.com
<22> magari: get the source code. that's what gentoo's own packages are made from ;)
<26> alright
<26> ill make an ebuild
<26> to the docs --->>>
<27> moin
<16> linux does some wierd things still, just closed my iconbox in E and lost all my running windows
<16> I mean, they were still running, but could not switch to them
<26> does the ebuild howto tell me how to unpack a .deb?
<26> Toolah: E is still too buggy for me
<28> E?
<26> enlightenment?
<16> I like it cause it is fast and simple for a laptop, not cluttered
<26> im a fluxbox fanboy
<16> especially like the simple menu's system
<28> oh yep, I thought that was called e16, or e17
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