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<0> thechris: what has not based upon the file edited have to do with it - I think it has an interface as do all programs they have to interface in someway even if it is only with itself - but what makes something grahical is blurred perhaps but it normally comes down to the ability to include images (pixel based) as opposed to text.
<1> Crap, I need to recompile the kernel, but my clock messed up and it won't work due to clock skew. I tried make clean but it didn't work.
<2> Hola. I've downloaded and emerged ibm-jre-bin. Can I use it?
<3> BioHazard_: reset the clock?
<2> Can't see the libjavaplugin_oji there
<1> RobbieAB: How far ahead?
<4> poised: simple apps like sed, grep, ect... don't really have a graphical interface. the screen has no context on the inputs and outputs. for these apps there is an interface which is only the command line.
<3> Till you are ahead of the skew... (This is a real bad hack, btw)
<5> RobbieAB: in the handbook != recommended in the handbook
<0> and having larry the cow bounce across your screen when installing might make the install more firendly but it does little to change the installation procedure itself
<6> is there a media player that could player most of the file formats such as avi,wmv,mpg,etc I have vlc, mplayer xine
<5> RobbieAB: it actually has a note explaining it could be bad
<7> Eureka, mplayer should do that
<3> blackace: If you want debug info IIRC...
<1> Also, I was reading in the handbook and it was tlaking about setting the time zone, but /usr/shar/zoneinfo doesn't exist.
<6> Awesome-o2000, mplayer didn't play wmv
<5> RobbieAB: ie. if you ever need to file a bug when something segfaults.
<5> RobbieAB: not a good thing to recommend to people who don't even know what CFLAGS are.
<8> Anyone help me with a kernel issue
<5> jehuty: don't ask to ask
<0> thechris: grep --help shows a list of common grep switches
<0> thechris: it is an interface and there it is on screen
<9> is stage 1 still the recommended way to install gentoo or did they move to stage 3?
<7> Eureka, hmm - I dont know if theres a win32codecs package for gentoo
<4> poised: but where on the screen?
<8> Every time I try to upgrade my kernel release it just stays at 2.6.15-r1 for some reason I can't upgrade my kernel don't know why
<0> thechris: directly below where it was typed normally depends how you have set up your shell interface
<5> randreas69: check in CONTENTS in /var/db/pkg/ and see if it got installed, if not you probably didn't have mozilla or nsplugin in your USE
<8> Is there something special I have to do
<5> Awesome-o2000: there is.
<6> Awesome-o2000, with a 32 bit machine there is but i'm using amd64, no luck at this time
<5> jehuty: configure, build, and install the new kernel maybe?
<5> ? kernel upgrading
<10> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kernel-upgrade.xml
<3> blackace: ok, maybe it shouldn't have been included, but that is the still one of the sanest set of CFLAGS I've seen recommended here... (IMO)
<2> blackace: I issued USE="nsplugin" emerge....
<4> poised: thats my point. it isn't displaying it at, say the top or bottom of the screen. its merely formatted output with no graphical context
<5> RobbieAB: and I take issue with every one that I see too :)
<11> what is the differences between proprietary software and non-free software?
<0> thechris: there are different interfaces but the interface does not mean the procedure has to change (the procedure might or it might be lacking but it doesn't rightaway mean change)
<12> what are cflags ? :D
<5> randreas69: USE on the command line is not recommended, you should read the "Working with Gentoo" and "Working with Portage" chapters in the handbook
<5> SiSteM[32]: read the handbook.
<2> I C
<6> dbe, is that a gentoo related ?? " I wonder why, I wonder why I wonder?
<3> SiSteM[32]: instuctions to the compiler...
<0> thechris: clear; grep --help and up it pops to the top
<5> randreas69: and so check CONTENTS and see if it was installed...if so you can symlink it into your browser's plugins directory.
<8> blackace ya changed the symlink, used make menuconfig, then make && make modules_install, then mount /boot, then cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage to /boot/<kernel-name> and grub is configured to use just <kernel-name> to boot from
<12> Lol always read the handbook :D
<11> Eureka, stop wonder
<2> blackace: does firefox like to be hand-fed? :-D
<3> SiSteM[32]: it does help... (read the handbook... :P)
<5> jehuty: and you rebooted?
<8> But is there something wrong that I have to mount /boot every time just to access and edit grub/grub.conf
<8> blackace yes
<5> randreas69: hand-fed?
<5> jehuty: and what does uname -a say?
<6> dbe, a ha
<8> Linux localhost 2.6.15-gentoo-r1 #10 SMP PREEMPT Mon Mar 13 13:10:58 UTC 2006 i686 AMD Sempron(tm) 2200+ GNU/Linux
<4> poised: this topic is moving off of gentoo. you have not convinced me. you are manipulating the CLI to code you're own GUI with the last example. I can only ***ume i have not conviced you of anything.
<8> blackace its weird for some reason I can't upgrade the kernel
<5> jehuty: and what does readlink /usr/src/linux say?
<2> Would like to feed a symlink to it, yeah. I can't see the same .so blackdown and sun java have
<12> :P
<8> linux-2.6.16-gentoo-r6
<12> handbook must be reaaaaaallllyyy big :P
<9> it is SiSteM[32] :P
<3> SiSteM[32]: Yeah, hundreds of pages...
<3> SiSteM[32]: ok, I exaggerate.
<5> jehuty: you must be doing something wrong with regards to building the kernel or configuring grub then.
<8> blackace should I just try re-emerging the kernel release 2.6.16-r6 and re-building
<0> thechris: CLI stands for command line interface GUI is with graphics (and these are free form pixel control interfaces) I don't see it being any harder than that really
<12> u know.. when ppl say "im rebuilding my kernel" i think they are really writing kernel or something.. but really system does it for them :P
<3> SiSteM[32]: yep
<5> jehuty: you should try the whole process over again making absolutely sure of every step, where you are, where you're getting files from, and where you're copying them to, and triple-check your grub config, make sure it's looking at the right /boot, etc.
<3> poised: but you can embed a CLI into a GUI, and a GUI into a CLI...
<3> poised: where is the boundary.
<8> blackace Is it wrong to just cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/<kernel-name> everytime which overwrites <kernel-name> ever time right?
<0> RobbieAB: precisely
<2> Should I symlink libjavavm.so or something else? Can't see and libjavaplugin_oji.so like I used before
<5> can we not have a CLI vs. GUI semantics argument please?
<0> RobbieAB: that is the point it is not because it is graphical
<2> libjavavm.so to libjavaplugin_oji.so then?
<5> randreas69: check CONTENTS like I said, there should be a javaplugin if you built with the correct useflags.
<7> blackace, CLI = console mode?
<5> !google wikipedia CLI
<10> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_line_interface
<2> There's a javaplugin.jar in CONTENTS no .so
<8> blackace did u get that?
<5> jehuty: wrong is subjective, but I keep all my old kernel versions and make new entries in grub.conf for them so I can boot a known working kernel if my new one doesn't work
<12> how old are u RobbieAB
<2> Ah got the .so now. So it has been in jre/bin all along. Is it good to go?
<12> are u a IT specialist ?
<5> SiSteM[32]: take general chat to ##gentoo-pub or such please.
<8> blackace but when i cp the bzImage to a different name that already exists it should just overwrite that current name though, correct?
<12> ookay
<12> sry dood
<8> blackace to the current bzImage but named differently
<5> randreas69: should be, open firefox and go to about:plugins and see
<5> jehuty: uhm, what?
<5> the current but named differently?
<2> world fetches blackdown by default and the test page says I run blackdown all the time. So does the about
<12> lol blackace no one is in there :D
<5> SiSteM[32]: not my problem.
<12> .. well onyl some ppl
<12> oki
<2> I got a recommendation to try out the two other javas. What is dofferent about them?
<5> randreas69: java-config
<13> Did someone try the ~x86 MySQL 5 allready and can tell me if it's good enough to use on a webserver with 50 people using each one database? Or have any ideas about it, tips why i shouldn't go for 5?
<5> randreas69: speed, implementations, licenses
<2> Yes I've done java-config with full reboot (did a kernel too)
<12> does wolfenstein enemy territory work on x64 ??
<8> blackace: for example when u cp a to dir/b it should just overwrite b with a (but the name will still be b) u see what I mean
<0> pijn: it is not marked stable so that might give you a clue - use at own risk on production servers
<5> randreas69: you're going to have to be a whole lot more clear about things if you have a problem you want me to help fix
<5> jehuty: ah, yes and that is true
<2> If firefox crashes immediately when I make the javaplugin symlink, what's the next step
<13> poised: true, but i don't want to have to upgrade to 5 and do all the strange administration to get all the tables to 5 this year.. thats why i was thinking for going 5 right away.
<14> hey, If i have /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6.16 and kernel-2.6.15 will it use the specific version-ed file? I dont have to keep symlinking them to kernel-2.6 ?
<5> SiSteM[32]: appears so, yes
<15> anyone here good with CUPS? I can't get my stupid laser printer to print
<0> pijn: if you have substantial lag from dev to live then go for it
<5> randreas69: run firefox from a terminal so you can see if it outputs any errors, then see about filing a bug report
<12> but i dont understand.. if windows programs 32 bit wont work on 64bit.. how does linux 32bit work on 64bit ??
<0> pijn: mysql ain't going anywhere so most problems will get ironed out just my opinion though
<5> cliffd: you shouldn't have anything other than kernel-2.4 and kernel-2.6
<2> INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: No manager for initializing factory?
<8> cliffd: what exactly does /etc/modules.autoload.d/ do
<2> System error?:: Success
<16> do I have to change more config than the grub.conf after compiling a new kernel?
<2> firefox-bin exited with non-zero status (255)
<13> poised: Hmmm. K, thanks :)
<5> randreas69: firefox bug then, maybe ask on irc.mozilla.org
<8> blackace: yes thats what i have
<14> blackace: I have 3 files, i made one for each kern version, it looks like gentoo will use kernel-2.6.15
<0> waldo: have you tried the test page and checked if any jobs are qued
<14> jehuty: its a list of modules you want autoloaded at boot
<14> jehuty: for a given kernel
<0> pijn: only concern would be if you were extending mysql then it would be best to wait
<15> poised: yeah-- they zip through CUPS in a blink of an eye and are reported as "completed" but nothing makes it to the printer.. that's the f'd up part
<8> cliffd: how do u now which release kernel-2.6 will point to though for the kernel
<2> blackdown java is good for games, only sun fixed me up with something. It's a certain site I'd like running like Windows use to
<5> cliffd: I've never heard of anyone making release versioned files there, can't say as I'd recommend it either since those files rarely if ever need to be changed due to a kernel release version.
<14> wow, so fyi, you can specify /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6.15 or kernel.2.6.16 and it will use the specific version file.
<12> so how about it..
<6> what's the equivalent command to smbmount, it's mount with options
<0> waldo printer online?
<12> why 32bit windows progs wont work on 64bit windows !???
<12> and linux 32 work on 64....
<14> blackace: trying to fix my ati drivers bug with the switch from 2.6.15 to 2.6.16 so in this case I need it
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