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<s0ulslack> rmmod module
<dukebody> thanks
<s0ulslack> grd: poke over the handbook again
<DaggyStyle> what part of grub.conf?
<DaggyStyle> slack, he is helping me...
<s0ulslack> ohh, my bad then :-)
<grd> where you boot your gentoo
<DaggyStyle> what partiton is the boot?
<grd> s0ulslack: np
<Kream> i'm trying to set up simple, local mail delivery for my local system using postfix and mutt. postfix starts properly and listens on 127.0.0.1:25 but when I start mutt, it says "/var/mail/[username]: No such file or directory" . How do I get mutt to work with postfix ?
<grd> hd0,0 mbr
<Kream> ugh - md5 mismatches
<DaggyStyle> what? I dont understand, hd0,0 is the main partition of the xp, the active one
<expresso> anyone know why crossdev puts gcc in /etc/portage/packages.keywords?
<expresso> i don't want to install 3.4.5.. i have 3.4.4 on my systems!
<grd> sorry, where is the partition that you mount as /boot



<DaggyStyle> hda3
<grd> hda1 or hda5
<DaggyStyle> hd0,2
<grd> you have to set root (hd0,2) (first line)
<LinuxMafia> hi all
<DaggyStyle> under the title?
<grd> then kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage root=/dev/yourroot
<grd> yes
<LinuxMafia> all : why my clock will change after rebooting or just after a while?
<DaggyStyle> no, hd0,4
<DaggyStyle> root (hd0,4)
<LinuxMafia> any one?
<DaggyStyle> maybe battry is done?
<roger55> LinuxMafia, either wrong clock/timezone settings or clockdrift
<grd> no that is not the / directory thats grubs root directory
<DaggyStyle> what?
<roger55> LinuxMafia, latter can be either because of the kernel or a dead cmos battery
<obsrv> hello, is there any app like Traktor DJ Studio for Linux? For mixing mp3?
<DaggyStyle> thats want I've understood from the handook
<LinuxMafia> roger55, my timezone is america/toronto
<grd> root (hd*) is where grub is looking for the kerneimage
<DaggyStyle> book
<LinuxMafia> roger55, and i am using ndp
<LinuxMafia> roger55, what is clockdrift?
<DaggyStyle> ok, that should be changed to the boot partition?
<grd> yes
<DaggyStyle> done
<DaggyStyle> what now?
<krz_> what happens if you do Symmetric multi-processing support in the kernel and you dotn have hyper threading in your CPU. will that damage your hardware in anyway?
<s0ulslack> krz_: what would be the point? also, the help explains it
<DaggyStyle> whats next?
<solid_liq> krz_: no
<grd> newline kernel (hd0,2)/bzImage root=/dev/whereisyourroot
<DaggyStyle> under it?
<grd> yes
<krz_> solid_liq, hyperthreading is supported with intel centrino ?
<Kream> i'm trying to set up simple, local mail delivery for my local system using postfix and mutt. postfix starts properly and listens on 127.0.0.1:25 but when I start mutt, it says "/var/mail/[username]: No such file or directory" . How do I get mutt to work with postfix ?
<DaggyStyle> what about this: * bastiaan has joined #gentoo
<DaggyStyle> <damg> can anyone check if xorg7 supports xorg7 supports radeon x600 mobility (RV380) - my browsing capabilities are very limited right now (i have no browser installed)
<DaggyStyle> <AllenJB> s0ulslack: Not if you've set it up properly. Most likely yo
<DaggyStyle> huh?
<DaggyStyle> wrong line sorry
<DaggyStyle> one sec
<solid_liq> krz_: lemme let you in on a little secret: hyperthreading sucks
<bastiaan> DaggyStyle: lol
<DaggyStyle> what about this: kernel /boot/kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r10 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda3 udev
<DaggyStyle> from the handbook?
<krz_> solid_liq, i just need to know whether i need to enable it. my laptop is currently running on intel centrino mobile technology
<solid_liq> krz_: then it should have it
<Kream> krz_: you mean it has Intel Inside ?
<Kream> (tm) ?
<Kream> I've heard about these laptops that run on Intel(r) Centrino(tm) Mobile Technology
<grd> read the man grub afer rebooting, i don't know these boot options
<ufo> should i put the ntfs in kernel as mudule?
<ufo> module
<grd> if you type kernel /boot/bzImage or (hd0,2)/bzImage its the same
<DaggyStyle> ok, is there a way to undone the grubinstall from the linux or I need to do it with the xp cd?
<krz_> im getting the unversal cd. does the manual (as seen at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=1) come with it?
<cornet> DaggyStyle: there is yes
<DaggyStyle> up untill this, the handbook is great but the grub isnt understandable
<scott_w> how would i go about changing the OSS settings so that quake 4 will use 44.1khz instead of 44.8khz



<Drakas> what's the command name for gnome menu editor?
<grd> grub is easy, buzt you have to read a little bit
<cornet> DaggyStyle: http://linuxgazette.net/issue63/okopnik.html
<roger55> krz_, you best read the online version, as it will always have the latest info.
<Drakas> its screwing up a bit so i thought i need a debug
<cornet> DaggyStyle: read that and be careful
<DaggyStyle> ok, how do I do it, I want to do the whole gentoo install process allover, start from sctrach without damaging my xp patitions
<The-Fikr> gentoo has a 64 bit ?
<eduedix> yes
<lowesch> The-Fikr: yes it does
<DaggyStyle> ok, I'll use the xp cd and clear the mbr, will start again later
<DaggyStyle> thanks all
<Drakas> what's the command name for gnome menu editor?
<DaggyStyle> one more, just remember, how can I pause the install a return later?
<ufo> Drakas, gmenu-simple-editor
<Drakas> ImportError: Bad magic number in /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/cairo/__init__.pyc
<Drakas> did python **** up ?
<Drakas> or cairo?
<Drakas> thanks ufo
<ufo> Drakas, try emerge -uD world
<Drakas> okl
<ufo> Drakas, first emerge update
<krz_> my system looks like its running pretty stable with ubuntu
<krz_> however, i think i want to go with gentoo
<DaggyStyle> grd, how can I pause the install a return later?
<Drakas> gentoo is more stable for me :)
<rsk> gentoo is by default stable ;)
<ufo> DaggyStyle, press ctrl+c
<rsk> you have to unmask to make it unstable
<krz_> i guess the only hard part about gentoo is getting the system up and installed
<krz_> well not so hard, just a longer process
<Drakas> thats a massive list to update... binutils - no!!!
<DaggyStyle> I mean to shuttdown of the night or switch to xp and return later
<cornet> krz_: aye its easier than most - assuming you can read :)
<Drakas> ufo how can i exclude binutils from updating
<rsk> krz_: you can use the gentoo-installer aka a gui installing gentoo tool if you dont want to do it easier
<rsk> -dont
<Drakas> I've got this: [ U ] sys-devel/gcc-3.3.6 [3.3.5.20050130-r1] <<< why does it want to downgrade?!
<krz_> theres a gentoo-installer?
<Drakas> yes
<ehaase> what would be the opposite of a minimal user interface?
<Triffid_Hunter> Drakas: err 3.3.5 -> 3.3.6 is a downgrade?
<ehaase> what would be the opposite of a minimal user interface?
<cornet> ehaase: kde
<cornet> ehaase: or gnome
<Def> ehaase : Windows
<cornet> hehe
<Drakas> ugh i thought the first one was an old one :]
<Triffid_Hunter> ehaase: maximal? featured?
<Def> i.e. Bloatware
<krz_> rsk, does the gentoo-installer go through all the steps in the handbook as specified at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml ? but the only difference is it is GUI instead of CLI?
<randomthing> Is there a way of getting a list of files installed with a package?
<Drakas> how do i exclude binutils??
<ufo> DaggyStyle, maybe you should update the binutils...
<sadsfae> ive found gnome 2.12.x uses more resources than kde-3.4.3+ on same hardware actually
<Triffid_Hunter> randomthing: equery f package
<cornet> Drakas: mask it off in /etc/portage/package.mask
<DaggyStyle> anyone?
<Zardiac> Cant get my radeon 9800pro to work wit direct rendering.. ut everything seem e wortking.. only error i found is * DRI initialization failed! in xorg log file
<Drakas> okey
<Triffid_Hunter> randomthing: equery is part of gentoolkit if you don't have it
<rsk> krz_: jup
<cornet> Drakas: man portage will tell you
<DaggyStyle> how can I pause the install a return later?
<DaggyStyle> I mean to shuttdown of the night or switch to xp and return later
<ufo> DaggyStyle, press ctrl+c
<randomthing> Triffid_Hunter: Thanks
<cornet> Drakas: ctrl+c then follow the guide through again (excluding partitioning and downloading of stage tarball)
<DaggyStyle> ok, how do I retun without restartring the entire isntall process?
<krz_> rsk, does that come with the universal cd?
<ufo> daggy style and type the same thing again
<Drakas> me?:)))
<DaggyStyle> all over?
<rsk> krz_: no, its a specific iso


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