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<0> Kavok: It's 1.5GB, 886MB of which is in ./distfiles/
<1> Just lie about your age. :)
<1> Or get a ghost developer
<2> t35t0r: Is it faster than whatever is currently stable on gentoo?
<3> Fieldy: The idea with the SOC is the contestants become interns or employees through the process. YOu have to be an adult so you can work under contract.
<0> huh. Apparently I didn't do the loopback method on this machine. I did it on my other machine
<4> Kavok, i don't know as i said i saw benchmarks that show gcc 4 to be slower than the latest 3.x.y
<0> Kavok: are you using irssi?
<2> insta: Why dont I get your pms? :(
<5> ah. annoying.
<2> insta: Konversation
<4> Kavok, slower in compiling and in the packages it creates
<6> are there any liveCDs with support for reiserfs v4?
<0> Kavok: lets get you set up, shall we?
<4> Kavok, the more bloated a compiler becomes the more processing it has to do the slower it will compile your packages ..and it doesn't necessarily mean you will get better performance out of the binaries
<2> Kk.
<4> Kavok, e.g -O3 isn't always necessarily faster than -O2
<0> t35t0r: and on that note, it's usually slower because the binaries are larger
<2> I'm reloading my system as x86 instead of amd64, and I want to do my install with more finesse this time
<0> Whoa, why not AMD64?
<4> insta, hehe no not necessarily
<0> I use an AMD64, it's fine.
<4> insta, kernel pages are like *MB
<5> wish i had that kinda hardware to not use fully
<4> err 8mb
<4> it would be slower if your binary is > 8MB probably
<2> It just seems like it gives me alot of h***le for the things I want to do, I'd like to see if things work better on x86
<7> Gentoo Newspaper ****s this week.
<4> you have lots of binaries > 8MB ?
<2> I have to have a firebox/openoffice bin, java and flash give me troubles
<2> I have to unmask all kinds of things
<2> It freezes pretty often too
<2> only when using java/flash though
<4> revdep-rebuild is messed up it jumbles USe flags in with the oneshot emerge
<3> kevman: If you were writing it, is that what you'd want to hear? I don't think they are paid.
<7> Its just short.
<7> I personally think weekly is too frequent.
<4> what does gnome/eel do ?
<8> How do I specify a device to configure the levels of in alsamixer?
<8> -c is for card, but I want to specify the device.
<2> so im thinking 2400mb for /usr/portage? ResierFS file system?
<9> what software exists for linux for music production
<8> I can hear it very slightly in my non-default speakers...
<9> like Fruity Loops etc.
<5> Kavok: yeah that's fine
<4> Kavok, 4GB
<8> I want to boost up the volume from the speakers.
<8> Any ideas?
<4> Kavok, and use yacleaner frequently
<4> Kavok, actually that should be enough 2.5gb
<0> Kavok: don't need to use Reiser. Personally have had stability issues with it
<10> someone tell luthien she's a fake starshine :)
<2> 'yacleaner?
<4> !google gentoo yacleaner
<11> http://blog.tacvbo.net/data/files/gentoo/yacleaner/
<2> what is it?
<4> cleans out log files tmp files distfiles (based on time stampe)
<2> why isnt it in the portage tree? :(
<4> determines if you're likely to re-emerge something ..and deletes stuff out of distfiles
<4> Kavok, lots of good stuff isn't in the portage tree
<4> Kavok, it's just a single .py file
<4> just chmod 700 it and put it in /root directory and run it
<0> Kavok: I'd say a 300MB file should be fine, and you can symlink /usr/portage/distfiles to a more efficent repository elsewhere on the system. (IE: larger blocks)
<3> Kavok: Maybe bump up the size a little, or run distclean-0.2.py a lot. Mine's 1.9GB on a medium-light install.
<12> how can i get rid of "recaching dependancy info" on bootup?
<4> yacleaner does more stuff than distclean
<2> 300mb file?
<0> Maybe 400MB portage tree.
<0> ok, lemme show you the basic technique
<0> You can do this without hosing anything on your system.
<4> /usr/portage/distfiles) # du -sh
<4> 1.6G .
<4> i ahven't run yacleaner in a while
<0> How much free space do you have on your root drive?
<4> /dev/hda2 19G 16G 3.5G 82% /
<4> 3.5G
<0> (kavok)
<2> 42gigs
<3> 400MB is not large enough for portage without distfiles. It's about 500MB, and you want headroom.
<4> 40g dual boot win lin
<2> 52gigs*
<0> DrChandra: are you counting block usage in there as well?
<3> insta: I'm just reporting what du says.
<0> Try: "find | xargs cat | wc -c"
<0> That's actual usage
<0> Rather than disk usage
<0> Kavok, go to /root/, and try this:
<0> dd if=/dev/zero of=./bigfile bs=1024k count=100
<0> When it finishes running, do an ls -lh
<13> does anyone here have a NVIDIA 6800GT?
<2> whats that going to do?
<3> insta: But we're talking about disk storage. Why ***ume byte counts are going to be stored more than one file to a fractional block?
<0> Kavok, nothing harmful, and you'll see if you run it. If you're not comfortable doing it, I can tell you what it does.
<2> I prefer to know what everything does before I run it lol
<0> DrChandra: because using a loopback filesystem can really pack the size of the portage tree down, when using smaller blocksizes
<0> Kavok: No problem. dd is a direct-copy utility. It's doing to read from the /dev/zero device (which spits out nothing but null characters), and it's going to write them to a file called 'bigfile' in the current directory, (continued)
<3> insta: What are we talking about, packing Gentoo onto a USB fob? Use some space. Quibbling over a few 100MB isn't worth the time. YOu'll just have to move it somewhere bigger as it grows then.
<2> A little off topic, if I have a SATA drive should I be doing anything with hdparm?
<0> We're telling it to write in blocks of 1024k at a time. 1024k is a meg. count=100 will write 100 blocks, of a meg each, to the output file, of the contents from the input file.
<3> Kavok: hdparm is for IDE drives, not SATA.
<0> Basically you create a 100MB file.
<2> insta: why?
<0> Because I'm showing you what's going on
<14> what ya'll use for irc ? irssi?
<0> FFS will you bear with me for a second?
<0> DrChandra: on my development machine, which I just ***embled, 100's of MB *is* worth my time. It's an embedded system, running Gentoo, and is equipped with a 3.2GB drive.
<15> i'm doing an install...just 'emerge --sync' and '>>>Updating Portage Cache' is at 587% and my CPU is in the high 90% for the past ten minutes...is this normal?
<0> bpont: yes, it'll speed up a bit past 60%
<3> insta: And Kavok wants the same thing on his system? Not all systems are embedded.
<2> I have a 120 (110)gig HD
<14> bpont - how do you tell what your cpu % is?
<0> I didn't say he did want it on his system. I'm relaying a documented performance tweak, which is supported annecdotially by me with two separate Gentoo installations.
<15> insta: i don't mind the high CPU usage, but why does the '>>>Updating Portage Cache" 587%?
<15> larzen: i used top
<0> Does it really say 587% ?
<0> I'm not telling him the rest of the tweaks I'm using, because they're size-oriented rather than speed.
<15> insta: yes
<0> bpont: oh. Ignore what I said then ... I'm not sure.
<2> insta: This might be too over my head at the moment :-\
<14> mine is mostly pinned between 70-95 (mythtv - on a P3)
<0> Kavok: how does running one command befuddle you?
<0> do you have another chat network? AIM, MSN?
<2> insta: I just don't know why I want to create a 100mb file
<2> yeah
<15> insta: it's finished now, it's telling me an update to portage is available and highly recommended; then to update ALL of my configuration files
<14> btw.. what is udev?
<16> Anyone have any good resources on setting up some sort of server to allow a connection from an exterior machine for tunneling (to byp*** a firewall, for example)
<2> If I go from amd64 -> x86 do I want x86, i586, i686, ?
<3> insta: An old pool player gave me some sage advice once: When advising other players on how to shoot, set them up with a shot that is chosen for *their* skills, not yours.
<14> Crim_Lang ... what kind of resources? Set up an instance of Gentoo with IPTables
<14> open up SSHD - and you're set man.
<0> DrChandra: why not use the opportunity to teach him?
<16> larzen: well I have no idea what's required is all, I know I have a firewalled connection I need to byp***, and I'm pretty sure the answer to that is Tunneling (it worked before, but the servers are laggy, hence the want to create my own more local source), but like I mentioned I have no idea where to start :S
<3> insta: Because most of his learning would be by counter-example, for instance if loopback support is left out of the kernel. And primarily because Kavok doesn't seem to be up for it.
<14> Crim_Lang - if you want to tunnel, you need two servers: 1 outside of the fw and 1 inside
<17> http://www.frappr.com/gentoolinuxusers
<14> you can port forward using ssh
<14> do you need help with setting up a gentoo instance? or port forwarding with ssh?
<14> all: btw.. whats up with the gentoo X-based installer?
<14> i tried that thing.. spent 1/2 hour filling out the details only to get "critical error"
<0> If Kavok isn't interested, then he would tell me to kindly STFU in the PM we're in. I appreciate you keeping a level head about education and boundaries, but this probably is a situation best left up to the key players.
<17> Kavok: hows oink?
<3> insta: I'm not saying you're wrong. Just wait for Kavok to catch up to where you are. Let him learn the easy stuff before getting all technical.
<16> larzen: well lately I've been running a similar setup. One program on my laptop runs the server inside the firewall, and another program configures the app chosen (in this case a game) to connect to that socks5 server, and from there, the other program connects to a server in the US for tunneling and everything works great, except I'm Canadian, and all their servers are based in the US, and I lag out every minut
<15> how do i update portage
<0> ... I broke portage.
<16> larzen: So I figured if I could figure out how to do similar but set up a connection down the street essentially vs all the way to the US, it'd lag a lot less :D
<3> insta: What happened?
<14> Crim_Lang - well, SOCKS is one way to go..you can also port forward the connections directly
<3> Kavok: Let us know if you want to dive into deeper waters. There's a lot here.
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