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<0> god, k3b is going to take longer than updating my whole system did. I guess ill goto sleep.
<1> [ebuild fUD] app-emulation/cedega-5.1 [5.2]
<1> im confused about what thats saying?
<1> is that saying 5.1 will replace 5.2?
<2> Phonica, you have to subscribe to cedega - it isnt free
<2> is there a 5.2 out?
<1> i have already
<1> yes 5.2 is out
<2> wpw that was fast
<1> you can get the engine already
<1> poo i have a problem
<3> hello
<1> its going to try and replace 5.2 with 5.1
<1> any thoughts?
<1> ah it deleted my 5.2 ebuild thats why



<3> why could be reason to this? my net.eth0 interface comes up on boot althought I haven't it on runlevels
<4> Phonica: didnt u use a overlay ?
<1> ?
<5> wow -- does it suprise anyone else that there isn't a user named gentoo on the server?
<4> Phonica: cause it deleted your ebuilds
<1> yea i jus noticed lol
<6> overlays dont delete anything, they just lay over the main tree
<7> hi
<7> i've one problem to install ati-drivers (version 8.25.18)
<7> i've installed xorg-server-1.1
<7> and this blocks the ati-drivers
<4> darn the suse ppl - they wont tell me wich of their patches make s2ram work on my laptop :/
<8> if i install a newer version of lua (which is not compatible with the one in portage) in /usr/local, will ebuilds depending on lua use it or the one in /usr?
<9> opqdonut: there'll only be one
<8> ?
<9> unless you slot it, which seems unlikely
<10> /quit
<8> reisio: what do you mean? i mean compiling the newer lua by hand (as it isn't in portage)
<11> CHaiS, u need to mask 7.1 & downgrade to 7.0 .basicly driver abi change in 7.1 = broken ati/nvidia drivers untill they update them
<12> hi... having trouble with a netgear wlan card
<13> can someone please genlop -t openoffice-bin for me?
<12> basically it works, but it's hilariously slow and sometimes just won't work at all
<12> seems to an issue with ndiswrapper
<12> does anyone here have experience with that?
<8> reisio: can you elaborate?
<7> mask xorg 7,1?
<9> opqdonut: oh, thought you meant with a new ebuild
<9> opqdonut: which version do you want?
<8> reisio: 5.1
<7> thx hollowsoul
<8> reisio: there is no ebuild since the maint. thinks the build system ****s
<14> hi
<9> opqdonut: maint?
<9> 'lo metal
<8> reisio: i need the old one for stepmania, but i want to do my dev. work on 5.1
<8> reisio: ebuild maintainer
<8> reisio: so my question is, will portage use the version in /usr/local or the one in /usr
<11> yep edit /etc/portage/package.mask & http://pastebin.ca/66506 change the x11-drivers/<foo> to ones u got. (Dont mask ati drivers)
<8> reisio: since 5.1 and 5.0 aren't compatible
<9> well if you compile and install 5.1 outside of Portage, Portage will keep using 5.0
<9> opqdonut: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124719
<8> reisio: yeah i looked at that bug
<8> reisio: you are sure ebuilds will use the portage version?
<15> I'm in the process of installing gentoo onto my raid array (softwareraid using devicemapper)... But I can't quite figure out how to use grup to boot it...?
<16> ok ..if kdebase-3.5 is blocking Kate ... is there an alternative to Kate ?
<17> ARGH 2.6.17-RC6 + iSCSI doesnt work :(
<9> opqdonut: Portage only sees what is inside it
<17> its horribly broken :p
<8> reisio: okay. thanks a lot
<9> opqdonut: now installing the 5.1 outside of portage might break things :) I don't know
<9> opqdonut: but even if it does break things, Portage will still act like it only has 5.0
<15> and for some reason when using the universial bootcd, the GRUB TAB-completion does not work... ?
<8> reisio: how could things break?
<18> Contessa: kate should be included in kdebase, theres 2 types of packages for KDE, monolithic, and meta... kdebase is monolithic where kate is meta (they are exclusive of one another)
<8> reisio: will things emerged link to the 5.1 or the 5.0=
<8> *?
<16> TFKyle ... ok ... so I have to find another editor other than Kate ?
<9> opqdonut: like it's possible 5.1's install could overwrite 5.0 stuff, I've no idea
<8> reisio: it won't if i install it in /usr/local
<18> Contessa: nope, kate is included with kdebase if you're using the monolithic packages



<16> TFKyle, well ..it isnt on my system, as far as I can see
<16> ok ..I'll take that back ...its somewhere difefrent
<16> I found it
<9> opqdonut: well there you go :)
<8> reisio: okay, so when i emerge something that deps lua, it will link against 5.0?
<9> opqdonut: yup
<8> reisio: yay! thanks for the help!
<19> reisio: Got any ideas?
<9> bloggsie: what command?
<19> I was using the text-based installer on the 2006.0 full install disk, and it's bombed with the message above.
<20> How can I remove all packages that are not in emerge -e world and emerge -e system?
<9> ah
<9> GoGi: why?
<21> hello, i run "emerge -uv world" and get this error: http://pastebin.com/714617
<20> reisio: uses unneeded disk space
<9> k I'm going to ***ume you just mean unused deps
<9> GoGi: emerge -av --depclean
<18> GoGi: emerge -p --depclean
<20> WARNING: --depclean is known to be broken.
<19> reisio: it's sent a long message to a tiny screen and lost the bottom half of it. I'm left with a yes/no choice. I have no idea how to proceed
<16> TFKyle ...can I use that to remove a SUN JStudio install that didnt work ?
<18> GoGi: it isn't really broken, just make sure to -uDN before, and revdep-rebuild after running it (and make sure there isn't anything crazy in the list)
<18> Contessa: emerge -C <package>?
<20> TFKyle: I've done emerge -e system and world before
<18> speaking of revdep-rebuild, /me stabs it
<16> TFKyle ... it wasnt installed using emerge ?
<18> it still uses fgrep */*/CONTENTS instead of find | xargs, which is a really big pain
<18> since it breaks if you have more than 2,000 or so packages merged
<20> why does depclean not remove kde-3.2 if kde-3.5 is installed?
<22> hm my manual emerge -ev world marathon is nearing its end
<18> GoGi: because Depclean doesn't do SLOT's like that, you have to -P the packages (be careful with that)
<22> most ofthe failing packages are *tada* multimediaplayers and helper libs
<20> TFKyle can i -P everything?
<20> TFKyle: but that's bad. I need gtk1 and gtk2 for example
<8> how can i get the default system include search path?
<23> anyone up for mariokart?
<22> anyone got an idea why some apps need libpng-1.* while others need libpng-3.* linked so libpng.so ?
<18> GoGi: I used to have a small one-liner I used to prune all kde packages, it went something like eix -IC kde-base <stuff to format it in a way that emerge could take easily) | xargs emerge -pP (then ofcourse run it with the -p removed after you're sure everythings fine in that list
<22> s/linked so/linked to/
<9> HiSPeed: old packages and imperfect ebuild creators
<22> reisio, i guess
<18> oh, I also had to cut out the overlay lines
<22> reiman, it s kinda annoying though.. no gimp for me then ;)
<9> HiSPeed: no GIMP? Why not?
<22> reisio, gimp needs libpng-3 .. gd (for php-gd) needs libpng-1.. i m using gd more often.. thus no gimp
<24> On gentoo, I have a problem connecting to the internet. When dhcp tries to start, it says "eth0 not detected"
<24> how do I fix it?
<9> HiSPeed: ...nah
<22> Oleg_, load the driver for the nic
<9> HiSPeed: which gimp version?
<22> mom
<25> hi, how do I install php 4?
<24> HiSpeeed: but I re-configured my kernel to support my ethernet card
<22> reisio, gimp-2.2.11-r1 ;)
<17> oh gawd Im an idiot, I changed the ip on one of my interfaces and it caused my sans to disconnect and now linux wants to run file checks on the san's
<17> Im gonna be sitting here for hours
<22> Oleg_, as a module? or in the kernel?
<22> Oleg_, either way, if it s in the kernel and not working you probably chose the wrong nic driver
<9> HiSPeed: something wrong with stable gimp?
<22> Oleg_, otherwise try loading the module and check dmesg
<22> reisio, the whole sys is ~x86 ;)
<9> HiSPeed: :p
<9> HiSPeed: what do you mean it needs libpng-3?
<24> in the kernel
<22> darn kernel upgrades -.-
<22> reisio, gimp while ld
<26> Oleg_: do a dmesg|grep eth, if you don't see anything your NiC driver cannot detect any cards
<9> HiSPeed: the ebuild says libpng-1.2.10
<24> thanks
<22> reisio, well it uses libpng-3.* for compiling -.-
<9> HiSPeed: I doubt it, I don't think there even is such a thing as libpng-3
<18> HiSPeed: wtf, there is no libpng3


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