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<0> ok, I'm trying to emerge xorg7 and I put x11-drivers/xf86-input-vmmouse in package.keywords... and emerge still emits the error. It doesn't mention that the ebuild is hard masked.
<1> dancor: nvidia is infinitely less h***le and extremely similar $/performance to ati, so nvidia should be your first choice
<2> can someone help me out with the router configurations? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml there is something I cannot find in the kernel configurations the 'IP: Netfilter Configuration --->
<3> dancor: it's true that ATI and nvidia dominate the market
<4> dancor: i'm very very happy with my closed nvidia drivers, and i was reasonably satisfied with my closed ati ones as well
<5> Tercel: Nevermind. Found the skull and cross-bones.
<2> does it has to be in the 2.4.x kernel ? because I cannot find it in the 2.6.x
<6> Triffid_Hunter: even if you are super gung ho about openness?
<0> l
<6> is 3d doomed to closedness?
<3> dancor: mah
<3> I'm sure Matrox or somebody will get it worked out eventually
<2> Anyone?
<4> _nightw0lf: stand by
<6> reisio: yeah. though it does seem inherently worthwhile for everyone to hide everything they can.
<1> dancor: hehe no-one's bothered writing an accelerated open driver for nvidia cards because the binary drivers work so well.. only reason the radeon driver is so good nowadays is that ati's official drivers have ****ed for a very long time
<7> i can't get useradd to work i've read the man pages and still nothing
<3> dancor: depends on your pov I s'pose
<2> Suertreus, ok.
<4> _nightw0lf: netfilter config is in Networking / Networking options / Network packet filtering (replaces ipchains) from menuconfig
<3> dancor: if Matrox made a good 3D card, I'm sure it'd earn a loyal Linux userbase
<3> rapidly expanding market
<4> reisio: oh matrox, lost in time...
<6> also, how is 3d accel on linux laptops these days
<3> Suertreus: :p
<1> dancor: i'm planning to expand nvidia's customer base to the point where they could feasibly open source their drivers, stick to hardware and still make a m***ive profit (ala digium+asterisk), then defect if they don't
<6> dli: is intel in the running on linux perf/$ too? i do love underdogs
<4> dancor: i love mine - dell xps m170 gf 7800 gts go - nvidia binaries, great stuff
<3> well, they only actually make money on their hardware
<7> is 'usermod loginname -p p***word' the correct way to change a users p***word
<4> dancor: intel makes good enough chips - never tried them for games or anything but they work fine for light accelerated work, screensavers, blender, just watching glxgears go at it, etc...
<3> WillieDaPimp: gp***wd
<3> WillieDaPimp: oh sorry group :p nevermind
<1> WillieDaPimp: it's one way.. p***wd username is easier though
<8> is there any way a properly configured gentoo is slower than arch?
<1> r00723r0: depends what its configured to do
<2> Suertreus, thanks alot!
<6> Triffid_Hunter: though if they do opensource their drivers they will probably stop developing them, no? will they then start to lag behind competition?
<9> r00723r0: 3 times faster FPS in games, right?
<8> Triffid_Hunter, speed
<9> :-P
<8> yep
<8> ill screenshot for you
<4> _nightw0lf: no problem; good luck!
<7> Triffid_Hunter: thanks
<10> WillieDaPimp: If you ever screw up your system and loose root p***wd, edit your boot sequene during boot (using GRUB or LILO), and add this to your commandline: "init=/bin/sh -l rw" and at the prompt, use 'p***wd -d root', then 'exec init'. be sure to avoid pushind ^D or 'exit'!
<6> i just go into knoppix when i have a disaster on the hd
<2> Suertreus, thanks ;)
<6> like root p***wd loss
<9> r00723r0: I really could care less, arguing with you is a waste of my time
<7> i've never forgotten a root p***word or any other for that matter, just couldn't change a users p***word
<10> dancor: well what i said also works
<4> segin: no, now everyone else can hax my box; you've ruined my security!
<10> dancor: init=/bin/sh tells the kernel to use the shell as init
<6> segin: oh for sure. it sounds much faster too
<1> r00723r0: well game speed is all about the gpu really, so if one is 3x faster than the other, your config and/or drivers were broken
<10> dancor: -l is p***ed to /bin/sh, it loads /etc/profile and other usualystuff like a login
<11> how would I know the ./configure parameters libglade was configured with?
<8> Triffid_Hunter, how would you explain 2x scores in bashmark
<12> So, who's the guy who said arch 3 was much slower than gentoo, and that his framerate in games doubled by 300 %?
<13> flashing my bios looks scary......but in order to have support for 3 HDs in linux I need to upgrade
<13> how dangerous is it usually to flash the BIOS?
<1> r00723r0: bashmark?
<4> r00723r0: DON'T pay any attention to bashmark!!!
<0> if I place the name of an ebuild in keywords.package, and the ebuild is not hard masked, what must I do to emerge the ebuild?
<14> Shirakawasuna not really dangerous
<8> Suertreus, why?
<10> dancor: 'rw' tells the kernel to have the root filesystem initally mounted read-write, the default is read-only (and would requirew you to do a remounting of root)
<14> just watch on the website of your mono
<13> having 3 HDs isn't absolutely necessary, so if it's dangerous then I can avoid it - I'd only lose 30 GB storage space
<4> r00723r0: bashmark results vary extremely widely form machine to machine regardless of hardware and actual real-world performance
<13> keikoz: have you flashed your bios on a linux machine before?
<15> What should I do if the version of a package in portage is old?
<14> i flashed it several times
<8> Suertreus, really?
<13> darkgreen: just emerge package should work - I recommend emerge -av package
<6> arrummzen: you should make an overlay and make a newer version of the package?
<4> r00723r0: see this forum thread: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-420702.html - that's me!
<1> arrummzen: check that you're not just looking at the unmasked version, ls -l /usr/portage/*-*/packagename and see which is latest
<13> keikoz: cool. Any tips on how to do so? There are apparently a lot of different methods
<8> k
<7> so i tried to log into kde after the install of it for the first time and got tons of errors talking about the dcopserver not running and that it will be unable to save my config file, whats the deal with that, do i need to install dcopserver or what?
<14> Shirakawasuna generally the better thing is to read what the website of your mobo tells
<16> which ebuild has mkfs.fat32 in it?
<14> if they have a serious support ...
<3> darkgreen: you figure it out?
<0> nope
<15> Triffid_Hunter: what is the differnce between a masked and unmasked version?
<1> kelvie; dosfstools
<15> I see two ebuilds...
<16> Triffid_Hunter: thanks
<1> kelvie; and its actually mkfs.vfat ;)
<13> keikoz: it's abit, and they have an open source option....but I'm a bit wary of it
<14> arrummzen unmasked is seriously unstable
<7> another error was that my user doesn't have write access to its home directory
<1> arrummzen: one is masked, the other isn't
<16> Triffid_Hunter: noted; thank you
<4> arrummzen: packages are masked to keep folks from installing them unless they know what they are doing and explicity allow unstable installation
<14> humm Shirakawasuna now that you tell me, i had to use a dos-disk
<14> (with asus)
<15> Well, the masked version won't even compile.
<1> arrummzen: don't use it then ;)
<14> and no opensource solution
<15> for some reason the author seems to think that malloc and cmalloc are the same function...
<1> arrummzen: maybe that's why it was masked..
<17> you need to add it to package.keywords
<15> I mean, the unmasked one won't compile... the one that emerge uses by default...
<13> keikoz: it offers various versions for "Linux Drivers". For some reason, they have a Caldera version, a RH version, a SUSE version, and a turbo linux version
<17> does it give you an error ?
<14> driver ?
<4> arrummzen: try the unmasked then; "echo foo-bar/fred-1.3.2-r4 >> /etc/portage/package.unmask" for the masked version to unmask it
<15> keikoz said unmasked is seriously unsable... are you sure that its not masked that it seriosly unstable?
<18> arrummzen, generally if the package is masked, installing it *WILL* break things, somewhere, regardless
<4> arrummzen: packages are masked because they are unstable (among other reasons, like security problems)
<19> arrummzen: uf its "masked" its "blocked" and unstable, you need to "unmask" it to install it
<14> arrummzen mistake
<13> keikoz: yeah, it's a little confusing. The "drivers" contain BIOS and highpoint drivers
<14> i wanted tell masked
<13> darkgreen: what's the problem?
<15> well, I think it would be a simple matter for me to fix the bug in the unmasked version, but why bother if the newer version may have fixed it? But now I am afraid something bad will happen if I use the new version...
<14> Shirakawasuna i'm sorry, i dont know how to do it using open source solutions;
<4> does anybody know how to have my gentoo server/router fragment packets that exceed the mtu of the outgoing interface? - it used to do this but stopped a few days ago and my family's going to kill me if they can't get anywhere but google...
<13> keikoz: thanks - I'll see if I can bother one of the abit support people
<14> arrummzen you can unmerge it anyway
<15> I don't really need that pacakge, I suppose Ill just eschew it..
<4> arrummzen: what's the package??
<13> arrummzen: same to you - what's the problem?
<15> app-cdr/cdw
<0> Shirakawasuna, it was in fact hard masked.. I seem to remember emerge stating that explicitly in the past :)
<13> darkgreen: ah. Which package?
<0> xorg7
<20> is there a reason why when booting im getting emssages that it cannot remove alot of things in the /sys directory?
<13> darkgreen: xorg-7 is not hard masked
<13> darkgreen: have you done emerge --sync lately?
<0> no, but the virtual mouse driver that it requires is
<15> Its a TUI for cdrecord.. I thought it would be fun to play with.... but I know the cdrecord command syntax well enough to work without it.
<13> darkgreen: ....if it's not hard masked it shouldn't depend on anything hard masked.
<4> arrummzen: cdw is not masked currently - either its just marked ~arch or you need to emerge --sync
<15> Suertreus: the old version isn't masked.
<15> 0.1.4 isn't masked, 0.2.3 is masked...
<21> Hey, I am working on making the Gentoo install cd into a liveUSB with read write support. I got it to boot from the usb stick and work with the squashfs filesystem but now, i've moved all those files to a partition on the disk. Gentoo still boots, but it stops because it can't find the root block device. How do i get it to use /dev/sda2 as the root device?
<15> Suertreus: the old version won't compile...
<0> well, I got past the masking problem, now I'm trying to unblock..... something.......
<13> arrummzen: well, I suppose it would be better to try to get the old version to compile
<4> arrummzen: nuh-uh, 0.2.3 is marked ~arch but is not masked - http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=cdw
<13> arrummzen: Suertreus is right. It's not masked, it's keyworded
<13> arrummzen: that just means it's "testing" or new
<4> Shirakawasuna: yay!
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