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<0> i need to know if my cpu is too hot! summer ****s :(
<1> TheSimkin: hmm let me see
<2> Rooster: that'll give you a list of your current use flags, and then you need to add or remove them in /etc/make.conf
<3> I need a lot... My system will be an "everything" system.
<4> kojiro: it says that it wants to upgrade to xorg 7.0 from 6.9, but xorg 6.9 blocks everything from upgrading
<5> felixo: it varies from processor, but generally try to keep it below 60C, 70C is usually ok but why pus hit?
<3> More than likely, I will need to load it up with junk
<3> I also enabled the USE Flag editor program
<2> Rooster: fluffle, why?
<3> (what is it called again?)
<2> Rooster: uhh... a generic text editor... nano or vim
<6> daddysmurf: are you trying to install modular X?
<3> No
<3> It is a certain one...
<0> TheSimkin: do u know where the "official" range would be? a users manual?
<2> Rooster: if you're talking about a graphica, i've got no clue, don't use it
<6> Rooster: ufed?
<3> It actually makes it less "texty"
<3> ufed!
<4> kojiro: yes
<7> Quick question, what package controlls the "play" command, as my laptop seams to have lost it after a recent update, but my desktop still has it
<6> daddysmurf: you should have said so. You need to follow the modular X guide
<8> do fstab changes require a reboot?
<6> mzbot: gentoo daddysmurf modular X guide
<4> kojiro: ty
<9> daddysmurf: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-howto.xml
<10> I'm guessing this is a support channel?
<11> synackuator, no, mount -a
<6> Slythor: seems that way ;-)
<12> am I muted or something?
<10> :P
<6> Crim_Lang: no
<8> slip: thx
<3> I am a complete newb to Gentoo
<3> This is completely different to me
<10> Haha so am I..
<13> Xaosratt: equery b play
<5> Rooster: you should read the docs, they are excellent
<3> I have
<12> okay then, is there a gentoo installer channel?
<5> Rooster: did you continue on?
<3> I am using the installer
<12> no one seems to like me here >.<
<6> Crim_Lang: there is, but try here, first
<10> I got thru the install except one thing... I don't know what to put for the tarball url
<2> Rooster: ooooh.... ouch
<1> TheSimkin: hold a bit i have to install screen here... upstairs i have it but i can't remember if it affected it
<13> Xaosratt: equery is part of the gentoolkit package, you'll need to emerge it first... run that on your desktop to find out what package play is in
<2> Rooster: the graphical has some issues :D ^^
<3> Why is it a bad thing?
<12> kojiro: I've tried here, three times
<3> It works!
<3> =)
<6> Crim_Lang: www.pastebin.com, if you like
<2> Rooster: heh, i actually was at a point where i was like 'i only want to use a graphical installer'
<3> This is different, I have never been able to install linux and type in IRC on the same machine
<3> I like it..
<2> and then i remember gentoo has none (didn't know there was one at the time)
<14> Rooster: the original gentoo install (and still recommended) is the command line install
<15> hey
<12> kojiro: that was one of the questiong but the least of my concerns :D
<3> Zefiris: I used it... I liked it
<10> K guess I'll do the command line install
<15> having nvidia issues all
<3> Zefiris: It failed on grub emerge
<14> Rooster: the command line install?
<15> can't load the module
<6> Crim_Lang: I'm sorry, the installer's not very well supported. I highly recommend the command-line install as laid out in the handbook
<3> So I tried the graphical and I like it too
<14> Rooster: as in... the handbook instructions?
<15> Unknown symbol remap_page_range and Unknown symbol pci_find_cl***
<2> Rooster: what exactly failed on emerge grub?
<15> any clues?
<6> Crim_Lang: I'd help with your xorg problem if I had more information...
<6> Crim_Lang: and ***uming I can help :-)
<2> Jugger: you still there?
<3> no... If you mean "command line" as in typing each and everything out... making your own fstab and stuff like that, I am talking about the Gentoo Linux Installer (Command-Line)
<3> It is a "graphical command line" installer
<16> blackghost, yeah
<12> kojiro: well it's kind of a 50/50 problem, doesn't seem to be with the installer it self, rather with xorg and emerging, and trying to restart the process rather than starting from scratch tomorrow (this box has over 1TB of storage, and I need to move files from some other drives desperately for tomorrow)
<14> Rooster: uh.. no
<2> Rooster: there is such a thing? wow, crippled
<3> lol, you guys thought I meant the "take forever" one
<14> Rooster: im talking about the *real* install metho
<10> I'm guessing I should pick stage3 install?
<14> Rooster: as in... you type the commands to install.. none of this installer stuff..
<2> Jugger: nForce 2 chipset?
<16> blackghost, yeah
<3> Zefiris, I would love to do this the clean and smart way... But I have 2 days to get a computer working for myself-- and I just decided to use Gentoo for the first time...
<12> kojiro: http://pastebin.com/719982
<6> Crim_Lang: have you ever done a manual install before?
<14> Rooster: *sigh*
<2> Jugger: can you paste the lspci line for me?
<3> =)
<3> It's working by god!
<2> Zefiris: shhh, let him at least get into gentoo this way
<12> kojiro: yep, but I didn't think you could still get the docs for that
<14> Rooster: then thats not really the best way to approach it in my opinion
<16> blackghost, 00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)
<3> I will do it the "real way" on my laptop
<3> I don't have time to perfect it.
<2> Zefiris: after that he'll learn that terminal is really the most powerful way to work
<6> Crim_Lang: sure. The installer's not even ready for primetime, IMO
<6> mzbot: gentoo Crim_Lang handbook
<14> blackghost yah.. but when he starts using ACCPET_KEYWORDS on the commandline or soemthing like that... well he will learn to hate it
<9> Crim_Lang: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml
<3> Hell, I will do a stage 1/3 Gentoo Jack***! Edition (or Rockhopper) on my laptop when I get out of school.
<6> Crim_Lang: anyway, do you know if the thing installed your kernel and bootloader yet?
<5> Zefiris: you're not supposed to do that anymore.
<3> Stage 1/3 (it just sounds weird)
<14> TheSimkin: yes.. thats why i mentione dit
<2> Zefiris: why would you use ACCEPT_KEYWORDS on the command line unless you're simply testing? :D
<3> That is what they call it...
<2> Rooster: stage3
<3> No, stage1/3
<15> no idea on the nvidia problems?
<3> (it's weird)
<14> blackghost: *sigh* you wernt listening apparently
<2> Zefiris: no, i'm switching between multiple screen rapidly
<2> Zefiris: mostly looking for specific names and highlighted
<14> Rooster: jack***.... shesh youre asking for a broken system
<6> Rooster: don't bother. just do a stage 3 Gentoo installation. Jack*** is, IMO, a shortcut way to get optimizations that you won't know how to deal with unless you add them yourself...
<3> http://jack***.homelinux.org/rockhopper/index.html
<3> It is much faster...
<14> Rooster: just follow a standard system install.. jack*** is a bunch of stuipdity that really doesnt help you unless you maintain it
<14> Rooster: not really
<3> Okay--
<14> Rooster: only if you know how to handle it and know the system well
<3> I was wanting a pre-built GCC 4.2.0 which would be nice (in consideration)
<12> kojiro: Yep, kernel and bootloader good, fstab configured and rc.conf, make.conf, etc
<14> Rooster: ...
<2> Jugger: okay, i'm at a loss as to how to do this without manually configuring yoru kernel...
<6> Crim_Lang: then I'd boot into the system and try 'emerge --resume' there. YOu might get lucky
<14> Rooster: you honestly have not idea whats going on
<2> Rooster: prebuild... oh god...
<6> Crim_Lang: if not, at least you'll get much more clues as to why xorg failed
<16> blackghost, thats okay, I found a guide fianlly, I think this should work
<2> Jugger: ahh okay, sorry i couldn't help much ^^
<2> Jugger: good luck!
<14> Rooster: gcc 4.2.0 isnt even stable.. it makes broken code.. now take a system that is source based...
<12> kojiro: as in rebooting with the live cd out?
<2> Zefiris: and you have a broken system
<3> Yeah... I know-- I have experienced it already actually.
<14> Rooster: just shoot yourself in the face with a RPG
<6> Rooster: that's what I'm saying. The mere fact that Jack*** pre-unmasks and builds gcc 4.2.0 is a huge red flag.
<3> I still want to try though.
<14> blackghost: yes... i know that
<6> Crim_Lang: yeah
<2> kojiro: 'Jack***'?
<14> Rooster: fine.. youll get *no* support in this channel for that then
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