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<0> someone should post a bug
<1> xdm you cant switch desktops... ir reads ~.xsession
<0> well use gdm
<1> t35t0r: no. i just did a fresh install.. and nothing has changed in portage that would break xfce / gdm
<2> i already extracted the stage1 image, what do i have to do to overwrite it with a stage3?
<3> jkt|: This is a mail server. Nothing X should be installed.
<4> anyone here have any luck using their phone as modem??
<0> seren, well i dunno then someone else was complainipng about it two days ago
<4> mobile phone that is?
<5> bhead: ah
<0> it has nothing to do with portage it's the GDM config
<1> joemauch: if u already untared stage 3, you should reformat then untar stage 1
<5> bhead: something clearly depends on it, though
<3> NeddySeagoon: emerge -t world lists what looks like the same list that emerge -up world gives.
<5> bhead: you might want to mask the xorg-x11 package and see what wants it.
<3> jkt|: yes how can I figure out?



<0> !google gentoo add gdm session
<6> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_XGL
<0> HAHAH
<7> joemauch, reformat the partition is safest, so you don't leave rubbish behind
<0> yeah impossible to find an answer regarding that . that is straightforward
<1> t35t0r: it reads .desktop files
<5> bhead: just mask it and call that `emerge -up` again, it will tell you
<0> seren, which .desktop files?
<8> Velvet: gentoo-wiki has an article on this
<7> bhead, yes - but it shows what depends on what by the indentation
<0> seren, how does it know which user's .desktop file to use
<1> t35t0r: /usr/share/xsessions/
<1> each wm has a .desktop file
<0> seren, yup
<7> bhead, so you can see what wants X
<3> NeddySeagoon: going to look at that again brb.
<0> that's what i was looking for
<2> exit
<0> hah
<0> especially funny are the ops that kick themselves out of the channel
<9> hello guys, is anybody running XGL with i915 chipset here?
<3> [ebuild N ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r7 USE="bitmap-fonts ipv6 nls opengl pam truetype-fonts type1-fonts xv -3dfx -3dnow -cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -font-server -insecure-drivers -minimal -mmx -nocxx -sdk -sse -static -xprint"
<9> it works fine here but is slow
<10> AntiLiberal, never mind.. Got it work.. I just took my binutils-package from my server and emerged :p
<3> so is it the fonts?
<1> trumee: you wont get much support for xgl here
<9> konsole opening is slow and mouse scrolling is slow as well
<1> trumee: #gentoo-xgl
<9> seren:k
<5> bhead: I told you to *mask* the x11-base/xorg-x11 package
<7> bhead, can you pastebin the emerge -tu world please
<7> bhead, can you pastebin the emerge -tuv world please
<5> bhead: and see what breaks then *when* you call that emerge again
<11> I just got my new HP Pavillion zv6000
<11> and I need to install Gentoo linux on it
<3> NeddySeagoon: pastebin?
<11> for dual boot
<11> but im also running Windows xp and need to keep xp on
<11> is there a good dual booting guide for it?
<7> bhead, a website that hosts pastes
<5> bhead: pastebin.com
<12> why is it generally bad practice to have applications or daemons running under root?
<5> Dr1ft3d: security.
<3> NeddySeagoon: AH ok
<5> Dr1ft3d: root can do *anything* to your computer. *anything*.
<1> Dr1ft3d: depending on the app
<5> Dr1ft3d: it can wipe out all the data, do whatever it wants to do
<5> Dr1ft3d: now suppose there's a bug in an app that runs as root
<13> anyone play nexuiz?
<1> !google nexuiz
<6> http://www.nexuiz.com/
<13> seren: /usr/bin/emerge -Dpv nexuiz
<14> NeddySeagoon, would the grub reinstallation procedure be any different from a Knoppix CD than a gentoo liveCD ?
<7> mrclark, nope - you still have to get into the chroot to do it
<11> ?
<1> marik: /usr/bin/ is in my $path
<5> mrclark: provided you do that from chroot, yeah, they should be exactly same
<11> is there any good gentoo dual booting guides ?
<15> Could somebody check if /usr/lib/libGL.so* is a series of files or symlinks
<14> jkt|, NeddySeagoon, sweet. here goes.
<1> mzbot: google patrickj gentoo dual boot



<16> patrickj: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_boot
<7> mrclark - good luck
<17> Hello. I have rather uncommon question. I have got a friend who has installed gentoo on his computer. I know that a real big hard disk. I thought of an external one, a LaCie HDD with 500gb. It works via USB2 and firewire. There shouldn't be compatibility problems right?
<3> NeddySeagoon: http://pastebin.com/713770 here is my pastebin for emerge -tuv world.
<17> *I know he needs a real big HDD.
<5> matitaccia: what's the issue with that?
<5> ah
<1> matitaccia: why external?
<7> bhead, reading
<3> NeddySeagoon: thanks
<5> matitaccia: provided it uses the standard usb-storage proto, no problem
<18> Hello there. Does anyone have a minute to help me diagnose a potential harddrive failure? I'd really like to know what I data I can save an what is gone. :(
<5> gentoo_helper: don't ask to ask, just ask :)
<19> Has anyone installing gentoo on an amd64 system received a kernel panic after the reboot at the end of the install, complaining about needing an init= line in the grub conf? I did not compile using genkernel, so initrd etc shouldn't be necessary, should it?
<18> jkt|, Right o. So I take it you have a minute?
<11> mzbot: thanks
<16> patrickj: you're welcome
<17> jkt|, I don't use linux and I don't want to buy a gift which he can't use... you see?
<20> another Firefox profile is mysteriously in use in use... clues?
<1> patrickj: mzbot is well a bot....
<21> gentoo_helper, if the drive is dead or dieing, chances are none of the data
<5> gentoo_helper: there are several hundred users, so just ask
<21> ieopo, check ps ax and make sure mozilla isn't running
<18> jkt|, Ok ok. :0
<21> s/mozilla/firefox
<20> s0ulslack: ps ax?
<1> jkt|: 975 users
<18> s0ulslack, Well. Here's the deal. I can mount the disk (it is a 2.5" laptop drive) using an IDE to USB converter, I can run fdisk -l on it, and I can run reiserfsck on at least one partition.
<17> seren, well... he has a silent computer. U know special power supply, special HDDs, special processors... I don't want to mess with that.
<21> ieopo, type it in a term
<5> seren: didn't want to bother myself, tx :)
<21> gentoo_helper, copy what you can while it still reads
<18> s0ulslack, You think it's dying?
<0> man if only one could make a mega browser opera+firefox+konqueror+ie
<21> gentoo_helper, hard to say really... I don't like telling other people hw is dead, let alone myself heh
<5> gentoo_helper: you told us you're having troubles with it
<1> matitaccia: if the person has the money for a 500gb external (also SLOW) hard disk, i would say to buy a 500gb sata their relatively quiet
<7> bhead, x11-terms/xterm-212-r3 USE="truetype -Xaw3d -doc -toolbar -unicode" 746 kB is what wants Xorg. try with USE="-trutype"
<21> who'd want bloatware like that t35t0r? :p
<18> s0ulslack, The thing is. All of the partitions check out O.K. except for the one with all my important data on it (oh, the irony).
<0> s0ulslack, ME!
<21> heh
<20> s0ulslack: : It wouldn't be the fault of a process running without my notice - It persists after reboot (firefox profile "in use")
<5> NeddySeagoon, bhead: I *really* doubt that you can build xterm w/o X11 :))
<1> +ie??
<18> jkt|, The problems are a little complicated. But if you hav ea minute then I'll explain.
<0> your idea of "bloatware" has ceased to be meaningful ..Win Vista has brought bloatware to the next level
<5> gentoo_helper: if I hadn't, I wouldn't be here.
<22> topic please everyone
<23> my raid drives are not starting up during the kernel startup so it can't mount the root fs (/dev/md3)
<7> jkt|, Xorg isn't needed at all but something si ****ing it in
<0> SimAtWork, hardware raid ?
<18> s0ulslack, That partition /dev/sda3, gives me a bizarre I/O error that I've never seen before...
<23> is there something extra i need to do to get the kernel to detect raid devices?
<23> t35t0r: software raid
<23> i've done this a few times before
<23> but with older versions of gentoo
<23> and never experienced this
<18> jkt|, Ok. To sum things up. All of my partition appear to check out ok except for /dev/sda3 (which is /dev/hda3 but I'm running the harddrive through a USB adapter right now).
<0> SimAtWork, defined the /etc/raidtab ?
<7> SimAtWork, what partition types are they ?
<18> jktl, /dev/hda3 reports a weird I/O error that I haven't ever seen before.
<17> seren, yeah... I see what you mean. But you know he is a computer freak... it's a bit difficult to know what is right and wrong. I just know he has one external HDD now, which is too small. So I thought... he could replace it with a bigger one.
<15> Could somebody check if /usr/lib/libGL.so* is a series of files or symlinks
<23> NeddySeagoon: OH
<23> NeddySeagoon: THANKS
<15> that is ls -al /usr/lib/libGL*
<23> NeddySeagoon: they aren't the right type!
<23> NeddySeagoon: you rock dude!
<0> jchillerup, what's the problem
<5> NeddySeagoon: xterm *needs* X11, something probably depends on xterm
<15> I don't have them, t35t0r.. I need them
<5> NeddySeagoon: giving away truetype USE won't fix that
<14> NeddySeagoon, that did it.


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