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<0> there's some differences, but it looks like stdc++ is there, and it's on mine too
<1> freenx on the server, the standard NoMachine NX client on the client
<1> Lucifer_arma: that list is from a week old tree, full ~x86 with GCC 4.1 unmasked
<0> I'm working off the portage snapshot I downloaded ~9 hours ago
<1> Lucifer_arma: lemme sync my tree and re-do that emerge -epv then
<2> nostrum I downloaded iso but I dont have folder PACKAGES
<3> tidus: thanks
<1> grumo: np
<4> bah
<4> AoA: look around
<4> ok really this time goodnight
<1> nite nostrum
<4> AoA: sorry i need sleep
<4> the other people here are helpful
<2> ok, can somebody else than nostrum can tell me what packages is on LIveCD ?



<5> AoA: can you cat /var/lib/portage/world and see?
<2> RiverRat no, I didnt install gentoo, I just have iso
<6> IS THERE WHERE I COME TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE INTERNET BEING SLOW?
<6> THE PEOPLE FROM #OPENSOLARIS SENT ME HERE
<7> ***es
<5> AoA: I'm asking if that file is in the iso.
<1> Doc: no on the complaining, and please turn off your caps lock
<5> Doc: trolling is frowned upon in here.
<8> AoA, i have a week memory of that you can see the list of files on the mirrors.
<9> is there a way to see what packages in portage require another package, without having them all installed?
<10> Skunky: emerge -va package
<1> Lucifer_arma: sorry bout the wait... my old p3 is a bit slow.
<2> RiverRat , no, on iso is just few files and one big file of 660 MB named image.squashfs
<1> Skunky: emerge -pv <package>
<1> Lucifer_arma: it's still syncing
<5> AoA: Yeah, it would be in that image file. Can you mount a squashfs via loopback?
<9> rsk: Tidus: um... no. I have packageA, what in portage requires it?
<10> Skunky: gah...
<11> is there any particular reason NPTL isn't the default gentoo x86 profile?
<11> bugs etc...?
<1> Skunky: you're wanting to know what packages in portage require <insert package here> ?
<9> Tidus: basically, yes.
<12> i dont suppose anyone knoes why perl-test-simple says i need libintl installed
<1> i'll steal rsk's answer.
<1> gah...
<1> i dont know how to answer that question.
<12> "gettext function not found. pleasde install libintl at Makefile.PL line 18"
<5> Skunky: emerge -avDt <pkg> The display should have the things it depends upon indented.
<8> AoA, http://linux.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/download/gentoo-mirror/releases/x86/current/livecd/livecd-i686-installer-2006.0.iso.CONTENTS
<5> FuriousGeorge: emerge it and then report the missing dependancy on bugzy please.
<1> RiverRat: he's wanting to know reverse deps
<1> RiverRat: ie, which packages in portage depend on <insert package>
<5> Tidus: What about a pretend depclean?
<1> RiverRat: probably still wouldn't work... as i said, reverse deps
<1> say you have package b, which depends on package a (which is installed).,
<1> he's wanting to know every single package which could possibly be package a.
<1> err... package b.
<9> Tidus: yeah. (: i mean, that info is in the ebuilds....
<1> Skunky: i did get that right, didn't i?
<1> in my above 'say you have ...' you're wanting to know everything that could possible be package b?
<9> Tidus: yup. exactly.
<5> Tidus: grep "<dependancy>" /usr/portage/*/*/*.ebuild
<1> Skunky: RiverRat just said it.
<1> i couldn't figure out how to do that.
<9> cool.
<0> hmmm, it compiles fine, it's failing to link. So the headers are there, implying the library is built, it's just not being found by ld
<13> wat does emerge --noreplace do?
<14> vinboy: read man emerge
<13> i did
<15> Hi, I need to emerge ndiswrapper on a system with no net connection, is it possible to download the files and then copy it into the portage tree so emerge doesnt need to download it?
<1> appelza: yes it is
<5> vinboy: install something if it isn't already installed.
<14> vinboy: then why did you ask?
<16> hey folks
<15> Tidus, how? is there a guide
<16> where does PATH reside when the pc is out?
<1> Lucifer_arma: http://pastebin.com/712619 <-- fresh tree 'emerge -epv libusb'
<14> DJGummikuh: what do you mean?
<16> or better where can I change path so that it has a new dir in it each time the pc starts?
<14> DJGummikuh: /etc/env.d/
<5> appelza: Download them and then put them into /usr/portage/distfiles



<1> appelza: run an emerge -pv ndiswrapper to see what packages you'll need to download, then go to a pc with working net access, download those files, burn
<16> blackace: my problem Is I put PATH=$PATH:/root/bin in my .bashrc for root but somehow it doesn't get executed when I log into it with ssh
<1> appelza: then copy to /usr/portage/distfiles
<12> RiverRat: i installed libintl and im still getting the same problem
<0> there's only a 1k difference between the two :)
<15> cool
<12> virtual/libintl
<15> thanks
<14> DJGummikuh: well it should if .bash_profile sources .bashrc correctly
<5> FuriousGeorge: Um, were we in the middle of a conversation?
<9> oops. -bash: /bin/grep: Argument list too long
<16> erm.... .bash_profile doesn't exist -.-
<0> except it's libusb-0.1.12, mines trying to install 0.1.10a
<16> which would explain why this doesnt work :)
<14> heh
<12> RiverRat: i thought you were talking to me before
<13> blackace: bcoz when I do emerge --depclean... it says i can use emerge --noreplace to put the package in the world file
<14> DJGummikuh: grab it out of /etc/skel/ :)
<15> cool, so normal tar.gz files go into distfiles and if i have ebuilds that point to them they'll be emerge'able?
<16> ah ok
<13> blackace: but in the man page they are totally different
<16> I was just about to ask
<5> FuriousGeorge: I might have been. When and what did I say?
<1> appelza: yep
<16> cool thx
<15> kewl
<15> tnx
<14> vinboy: no, if you 'emerge something', something is added to the world file...but if you already have something emerged you probably don't want to re-emerge it just to get it added to the world file...soo.....
<11> is there any particular reason NPTL isn't the default gentoo x86 profile?
<14> transient: it doesn't work all the time
<11> mono issues etc?
<13> blackace: so the emerge --noreplace is just for adding stuff to the world file?
<5> appelza: Yes but you might also need a patch file specific for Gentoo. As Tidus mention above get emerge to tell you which ones.
<14> and other spectacular breakages, yes
<11> gotcha, thanks
<14> vinboy: no, but that is one of it's uses.
<11> as long as it wasn't completely broken or anything
<12> <5> FuriousGeorge: emerge it and then report the missing dependancy on bugzy please.
<13> blackace: oh ic... cool thx
<16> lol... I just wondered why I can't hear my gentoo server beeping... just figured out that this is because it is not in this room ^^
<12> i was complaining that perl-test-simple is complaining about libintl
<12> but i have libintl installed
<14> transient: it's kind of a, try it if you want it kinda thing...it may break your toolchain, etc. etc., make backups, etc. etc., and all that ;)
<5> FuriousGeorge: dev-perl/Locale-gettext
<5> FuriousGeorge: Do you have that file installed?
<14> transient: welcome back! :)
<16> woha.. hack attempts again.. over a houndred times in 2 minutes
<11> thanks :P
<12> RiverRat: that one fails for the same reason
<11> wonder how many people remember from when i used to be here
<12> "gettext fucntion not found. please install libintl at Makefile.PL line 18."
<14> very very pleasantly surprised at how well it went too :)
<17> I installed gentoo for the first time about 4 years ago. And it's still going strong, Even after I replaced the mobo, it still booted up fine, although I do have a fat modular kernel
<11> i'm pleased to see stage 1/2 installs have been done away with finally
<18> net-dialup/ppp needs sys-kernel/mm-sources, but I can't find any mentioning of mm-sources in the ebuild file, what's going on here?
<18> oh nm, had mm-sources installed - no idea why
<11> i spent many an hour fixing people who decided to compile their toolchain with -fomit-common-sense
<17> starge 2 installs were decent though
<5> FuriousGeorge: Well you are missing something but I don't know what it is. :(
<14> transient: heh, that shows you were around when stage1 meant hours of figuring out circular deps and other fun things :)
<1> transient: stage1/2 installs are still available, but their instructions have been moved to the faq instead of the handbook itself.
<11> blackace: oh yes, thanks for reminding me of that lol
<11> ah i see
<14> perl, openssl, perl, openssl...
<14> :P
<12> RiverRat: do i really need -e with emerge system? is it bad if i take out accept_keywords x86 if i used it during bootstrap?
<11> hahahaha
<1> transient: and for the record, my entire box is compiled with -fomit-frame-pointer
<16> lol nice I have a login in last that was logged in -2208 days and -21 hours :o)
<11> Tidus: nothing against that flag, i'm referring more to the people who would put horridly over agressive flags in


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