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<0> Can anyone answer my question?
<1> Vanuatoo_, i'm sure someone *could* ..
<1> ;-)
<1> and yes, you'd still have to add modules.
<2> hello everyone. does anyone know of a good, minimalist console email client?
<1> jn, mutt or pine
<3> gentoo-portage
<4> jn: mutt
<2> mutt is hardly minimalist :)
<1> jn, beats emacs ... :-)
<2> mrclark: not saying much :)
<1> jn, shhhh
<0> mrclark: so what is the point of genkernel then?
<5> Vanuatoo_: not having to choose all the options youself
<1> Vanuatoo_, i haven't the foggiest, i've never used it.
<6> Vanuatoo_: I think genkernel i some sort of livecd-ish kernel with support for almost everything
<5> manually setting what you want in a kernel, or module or dont want at all is time consuming
<0> Is says that it will detect automatically
<5> it says ;)
<0> So I guess it will load them also automatically
<5> dunno, always compile my kernel
<7> broli-wrk: i can have a kernel configged for my machine in under 10 minutes... what do you mean time consuming? :)
<0> I'm not of fan neither but have to install fast. It's a demo system
<8> is there a kde 3.4->3.5 upgrade guide?
<9> pfein: actually, i think there is, somewhere...
<10> where are this channel from ?
<5> Tidus: the last time i spent a hole afternoon on make menuconfig :S
<6> I'm still having my kernel problem, I've updated grub correctly (I think) and defenetly compiled the right kernel, however the only kernel taht does boot is the one which is _wrongly_ configured in grub (2.6.15) http://rafb.net/paste/results/VnWueb15.html
<8> AterPhasma: no google love ;(
<9> mzbot: wiki kde upgrade
<11> AterPhasma: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Update_KDE_3.3_to_KDE_3.4
<9> close enough
<9> mzbot: wiki kde upgrade 3.5
<11> AterPhasma: http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Update_KDE_3.3_to_KDE_3.4
<9> nope
<9> just try that one, might be what you need
<8> AterPhasma: cool, thanks. neat bot...
<12> hey, can anyone tell me a guess on the size of a completed installation on ppc? (no apps emerged yet)
<13> I want to upgrade to Xorg 7 but am not sure what to put in my video card section
<13> I have a 9800 pro but can never seem to get the proper ATI drivers working
<13> so want to use whatever driver I am currently using
<14> is there anyone aware of a compressed r/w filesystem?
<15> EvilGuru: wat driver r u using now?
<13> in my xorg.conf I says "ati"
<0> There is no need to list modules in modules.d with genkernel config. Someone should correct the handbook
<0> One should specify that if using genkernel mode this step is optional
<15> EvilGuru: i'm not sure if Xorg7.0 supports ATI.... Xorg 7.1 doesn't even support Nvidia..
<15> luckily Xorg7.0 support Nvidia
<15> u may try it but i can't guarantee it will be compatible
<8> AterPhasma: re KDE upgrade - do I need to do anything to migrate my config (~/.kde)?
<13> vinboy: I do not want to use the proprietary drivers, as they never worked correctly
<16> 7.0 works with both ati and nvidia binary drivers, 7.1 breaks them though
<9> pfein: i'd relink ~/.kde --> ~/.kde3.5
<16> EvilGuru, the radeon driver works good here :) (the open source one)
<13> I want to use whatever driver comes with X.org
<9> EvilGuru: radeon
<13> isn't that a pain in the butt to get working?
<16> pretty simple
<9> EvilGuru: ati-drivers -> fglrx is a pain in the ***
<15> do u get direct rendering in open source driver?
<13> AterPhasma: yep - could never get DRI working with them, so I switched back to the default drivers
<13> no support for DRI but they work
<16> DRI works great here, with a radeon 7500 I get 470-ish fps
<13> okay, you've sold me
<13> did you need to change your kernel config at all?
<4> ? nvidia guide
<17> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml
<9> ? ati guide
<17> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml
<16> I have radeon fb stuff compiled into my kernel
<9> stupid ati-faq
<9> it's useless
<18> Hi, I need someone to help me to try to find out where the bug is in xmms... one of the gentoo patch cause the problem, I have confirmed that the bug is NOT in the vanilla xmms... can anyone guide me thru it?
<16> Phantom, searched bugzilla just for fun?
<16> there appear to be so many patches they've tar'd them up, gonna be fun :)
<13> all seems too complex, if I just want my card to work, no DRI or any fancy stuff, just work
<13> what do I need to put in my video card section for a 9800 pro
<18> s0ulslack: I talked to the xmms team, they said that it has been reported many times already and the devs close their eyes on it, so I want to make the step and find the problem if not fix it... but... I don't know how
<16> EvilGuru, X -configure should generate a pretty generic xorg.conf that'll work fine
<16> just use "radeon" as your driver
<18> thing I know is that the bug is in libmpg123 and it seems to be related to the id3v2 tag as disabling it fix the segfault
<13> so VIDEO_CARDS="radeon vesa"
<16> Phantom, poke over the xmms build, download the patches in the src_uri
<16> EvilGuru, indeed
<16> s/build/ebuild
<18> yeah... the patches would be a good place to start...
<19> ok I seem to be missing Connmark Match from my kernel
<13> ok, I am off to try it, thanks guys
<20> hi
<15> EvilGuru: make sure u install xorg7.0
<15> not xorg7.1
<19> Im missing connmark match in my kernel - I dont know why
<16> Awesome-o2000, cause you didn't select it in menuconfig?
<19> s0ulslack, its nowhere to be selected - theres a bunch of connmark-match-foo but no standard one, I think it may not be in the kernel at all!!
<16> Networking> Networking Options> Network Packet Filtering> Core Config> under Netfilter Xtables theres CONNMARK target support
<16> or echo these into your /usr/src/linux/.config
<16> CONFIG_NETFILTER_XT_TARGET_CONNMARK=m
<16> CONFIG_NETFILTER_XT_MATCH_CONNMARK=m
<19> connmark target is not connmark match
<19> that second one MIGHT be it
<16> look around, its there
<19> holy friggin feces - I have got to lay off of the pot.
<16> ppp :) (and not to protocol)
<21> is this : 2.6.15-gentoo-r4 same as this: linux-2.6.15.4.tar.gz ?
<4> AoA: no, it is the 4th 2.6.15 with genpatches (gentoo's patches)
<22> hi guys
<23> Awesome-o2000: language, and topic please.
<4> 4th revision that is
<19> language?
<22> do AC'97 sound cards use alsa drivers ?
<21> mark_alec , but is there any source of 2.6.15-gentoo-r4 ?
<13> how do I mask xorg-x11 7.1
<23> ErenTurkay: sure
<22> blackace: thanks
<13> as I want 7, not 7.1
<23> EvilGuru: read 'man portage' or the "Working with Portage" chapter in the handbook.
<13> done that and have started emerging again but get the error
<4> AoA: http://dev.gentoo.org/~dsd/genpatches/releases-2.6.15.htm and related pages will have the informaiton
<13> "checking for XT... configure: error: Package requirements (sm x11 xproto kbproto) were not met:
<13> checking for XT... configure: error: Package requirements (sm x11 xproto kbproto) were not met:
<24> if one interested in fixing ati-drivers + amd64 opengl problem : http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136893
<25> what package is "ld" part of?
<7> ssn_: it's part of gcc, if i remember right
<26> ssn_: I think it's either gcc or binutils
<26> ssn_: try equery b ld
<25> because the mesa-progs build fails with ..../ld: cannot find -lGLU
<25> TFKyle would know :)
<26> ssn_: I just used equery myself, it's part of binutils package
<25> ok, so ill try to reemerge binutils
<27> is anyone still awake?
<7> i am
<7> somewhat
<27> man
<27> i hate it when the sun rises
<28> I just got up actually
<7> i still got an hour before that happens here.
<27> haha
<29> I'm following the gcc general upgrade and I've noticed that 'emerge -eav system' is emerging all sorts of stuff like guile, emacs and tetex that will no doubt be emerged yet again when i do 'emerge -eav world'. Is this to be expected?
<7> wolfbone: yes
<7> wolfbone: you're using the --emptytree flag
<27> eav... whats the e again...
<27> a is ask and v is verbose...
<27> oh
<7> nostrum: -e == --emptytree
<29> Tidus: yes - I'm just following instructions
<27> emptytry does all packages and dependencies
<27> yup
<27> wolfbone: so dont use the e?
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