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<0> marienz: I still have 230 packages to finish, now klibido will not compile
<0> marienz: no, its not
<1> jorgp: why are you complaining about package stability while at the same time running a hardmasked gcc (and previously running a hardmasked xorg)?
<2> lol
<1> jorgp: it's not "a simple emerge -e world" if there's hardmasked stuff involved.
<0> marienz: tell me about it
<2> where do i need to add a "nice -n" so the emerge will not **** upp all the CPU power? make.config?
<3> i think theres an ENICE setting
<3> in make.conf
<3> check make.conf.exampel
<2> thanx
<4> PORTAGE_NICENESS iirc
<2> make.conf.example
<5> step: PORTAGE_NICENESS, yes, but it's not the same as setting nice. It's additive.
<2> kojiro: so if i need a low CPU usage i set it to what ? not -19 but
<5> step: if you want to reduce CPU usage I suggest you set MAKEOPTS=-j1 first, then set niceness _high_



<6> whats the proper syntax for this pseudo code : LIST=every argument given ?
<6> in bash
<7> Anyone here has an experience with L4Linux ?
<2> kojiro: i need the "j" so nice have to do the trick
<5> step: Anyway, if you want portage to have less agressive scheduling, set NICENESS higher, say 10-15?
<5> aggressive*
<2> ok, thanx
<8> maybe someone has some recommendations on motherboard for gentoo && amd 64bit ?
<9> Dry-ice: try livecd
<4> totaly_lost: nForce based are good
<0> is there a console based web browser that supports javascript?
<9> the other day I did a /etc/init.d/hostname restart and gdm got borked. the full explanation is on http://pastebin.com/717503. any ideas how I can revert this?
<10> Kartagis: for a networkless install ?
<11> i cant choose a mail client... thunderbird? kmail?... someone convince me :P
<12> jorgp: links has a javascript useflag...
<8> yoruichi no problems with 2.6 kernels ?
<8> maybe some vendor/model ?
<6> In bash scripting, whats the proper syntax for this pseudo code : LIST=every argument given ?
<9> Dry-ice: you have full access to the internet with livecd
<2> Mizipzor: kmail
<13> appelza: $@
<10> Kartagis: with a smartphone modem ?
<6> thanks
<14> hey, can anyone help me out with something? I'm getting Host Unreachable on all my internal pings/no route to host on all internal ftp traffic. Lan = no workie, net = works just fine on all machines, firewall is setup to let all internal traffic through box 1 <-> box 2 and only restrict incoming wan
<11> step, you think so? why is that?
<4> totaly_lost: go to forums (amd64 sections), they ahve good docs about mobos there
<4> totaly_lost: lemme find the url, a sec
<11> btw, anyone knows a mail client which lets me access my gmail inbox whitout doing pop3 forwarding from gmail and accessing that inbox from my mail client... does such programs exist?
<14> don't seem to have this trouble when I boot into a different OS on my gentoo box
<2> Mizipzor, if you have a huge mailbox and you need to search e-mails by subject, kmail is super. i use this at work every day
<15> interesting.. I had to re-merge libtool for it to pick up new paths for gcc libs .. i had gcc 3.4.4 installed and updated a while back to gcc 3.4.5 ... the libtool "sys_lib_search_path_spec" still had the 3.4.4 paths in it.. is there a "proper" way to have this update ? remerging libtool worked
<0> irCuBiC: thanks
<2> Mizipzor: it also has good filter/spam etc
<11> step, i see :) sounds good
<2> and cached imap and so on
<15> likes
<9> Dry-ice: smartphone modem? is that a PCI modem? if it is, I have no idea
<16> Mizipzor: btw, how do you expect your mail client to access your gmail inbox if you don't wanna do pop3?
<17> after completing the base install, what order should in install X, nvidia, kde or X, kde, nvidia and what method should i use to install kde (kde-meta, kdebase-startkde), when i did kdebase-startkde earlier I had problems with blockages when trying to install other packages (kdegames, kdeadmin, ..)?
<11> spufi, i dont know :P i dont know as much about the underlying mechanics of mail... .maybe someone had something like that
<2> gmail POP3 is absolute crap
<10> Kartagis: usb, pocketpc phone running windows
<5> deusieeee: let me point you to some guides that answer those questions
<16> aye.
<11> step, i tried it before and didnt like it, yes... but gmail is my primary mail... im looking for something that works with it... or something
<5> mzbot: gentoo deusieeee kde config
<18> kojiro: got status 502, retrying in 10 seconds
<9> Dry-ice: I have no idea
<19> kojiro: hey dude
<5> mzbot: now is *not* the time :-P
<18> deusieeee: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-config.xml
<5> seemant: what's up?
<2> Mizipzor: kmail works OK with gmail
<16> well, than enabling pop3 access to your gmail is the only way to go.
<5> mzbot: gentoo deusieeee nvidia guide
<18> deusieeee: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml
<16> just keep in mind that your sent items aren't synchronised from the client towards gmail.
<5> mzbot: deusieeee I recommend you set up kde/x first, _then_ nvidia
<11> step, can i find any documentation anywhere stating more exactly HOW well?
<14> anyone have any idea why gentoo breaks my internal network?



<2> Mizipzor: POP3 is POP3 :)
<19> DrWill: are you sure it's breaking your network?
<10> Kartagis: I tried, but I wasn't about to do it since gentoo's kernel has to be patched to use the ipaq module...
<19> deusieeee: I would just emerge kde-meta -- that'll pull in X
<14> I can ping machines when I boot into a different os
<10> s/about/able/
<20> hi boys, someone can help me with nfs problem?
<21> Where can I read about advanced permissions? For example: User A can do everyting with file X. B can just list it. C can read it.
<19> deusieeee: then when that is done, emerge nvidia-glx
<11> step, what do you mean?
<19> deusieeee: then configure X and you should be good to go
<2> i have multiple accounts that i access via one kmail and i have no problems at all. all mail is sorted etc
<14> when I boot into gentoo and try to ping my ftp box I get dest host unreachable/ftp traffic = no route to host
<19> DrWill: dhcp or static?
<14> static
<19> flogiston: http://edge-op.org/grouch/chmod.html
<2> Mizipzor: http://kmail.kde.org/
<19> DrWill: did you add a route?
<21> seemant: thanks.
<22> where do i get isdnctrl?
<14> a route for internal traffic via ip?
<10> wow, I'm getting 55KB/s downloads
<19> DrWill: yeah I ***ume so, not knowing anything about your network
<22> can i download from somewhere? since i only have dial-up-network, and yet no isdnctrl, i can not connect to internet to emerge it...
<19> flogiston: welcome
<21> :)
<19> MoL0ToV: doubtful until you actually say what the problem is
<14> basically ftp box <> router box <> os box
<21> Can be usefull in a ftp server I think.
<11> step, gmail works good, but i dont like having to check every so often if i got any new mail... i had a little notifier in windows that told me when i got a new mail... but now i switched to linux, first i looked for a similar app but then i realised that konqueror wasnt fully supported by gmail...
<17> thanks guys, i should be fine installing it, I had X and a base kde installed fine earlier worked fine, but when i tried to install some other packages for kde (kdegames, kdeadmin etc) emerge was telling me that some other kdepackages were blocking it from install. Then i took the time to add in another partion for /home but got hda# messed up and put wreked mt / partion, so i was wondering what could cause those problems about th
<17> those packages, or if I should try the same way again or use kde-meta?
<19> DrWill: so the router box isn't handing out stuff via dhcp, yes?
<14> no, all internal ip's are statically ***igned
<19> deusieeee: use kde-meta
<11> step, so now im looking for a program that notifies me when i get a new mail but also lets me read it and respond to it... you know?
<14> the router is setup to allow all Lan activity (changed it thinking this might have been the problem)
<16> Mizipzor: that'd be pop3 than.
<19> DrWill: what does the relevant section of your conf.d/net file look like?
<22> where can i download isdnctrl?
<2> Mizipzor: kmail can notify you when you have new e-mail
<19> ManuP: check packages.debian.org
<11> spufi, what do you mean? i use gmails service for forwarding incoming mail to an external pop3 inbox/serivce? and then make a mail client retrieve the mail from that service?
<16> Mizipzor: there's no other way really. Just enable your pop access, configure your mail client to check another pop server (pop.gmail.com I presume?) and set up a second identity allowing you to sent mail on behalf of your gmail address
<19> Mizipzor: emerge -s kcheckgmail
<14> it's just set up w/ip/netmask/broadcast/gw
<2> Mizipzor: http://docs.kde.org/ and see "kdepim"
<22> @seemant: okay...
<11> spufi, so i can do it whitout an third party pop3 mail? because before i used that forwarding, but my pop3 box i forwarded to (i used my ISP's) got full very quick :P
<14> with ip..
<11> seemant, ive already found that, but thanks :)
<20> seemant, i make a network boot, and when the kernel try to mount nfs fail to mount the nfs share, and here is the detailed explanation of problem: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-455411-highlight-unable+mount+nfs+5.html
<11> step, im looking
<16> Mizipzor: nah, you can disable the forwarding and enable the 'native' pop download
<11> spufi, ah! that might be worth looking at
<14> I can paste in a msg if that would help, there is something here I'm not catching. probably relatively simple once it's pointed out but ... I'm not catching it
<19> DrWill: when you run the route command, does it show you accurate information?
<9> how can I enable some encoding by default?
<14> hmm, for the route box the netmask is not accurate
<23> morning...
<11> step, what list is that? a list of KDE's mail clients?
<2> ?
<19> DrWill: there you go, fix that
<11> step, http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdepim/
<11> step, am i at the wrong place?
<2> no, this is list on kde apps in PIM group - PIM personal Information Manager or something like this :)
<11> step, oh i see
<2> under PIM you have
<2> kmail, korganizer,
<2> kpilot and so on
<24> reports the route box as genmask = 0.0.0.0
<11> step, sorry but :P what did you want to show me there?
<25> i was hoping soemone could answer a question for, is gentoo just one constant upgrade, I know new releases are made like 2006 etc, but is the stable repository one constant upgrade, or do yuo have to point it to a new stable repository for newer stable packages to emerge?
<2> Mizipzor: you ask'd aboput kmail and how it works ...


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