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<phear> haha
<bonsaikitten> pontusen, but you install proprietary stuff that doesn't even work in windows?
<bonsaikitten> geckosenator, cdrecord I guess...
<phear> i'm a programminer, i'm lazy like that ;-)
<geckosenator> probably
<samhob> im a violent gnome user , but ic ant live without k3b :p
<geckosenator> I have a 24x cdread drive only
<geckosenator> so I don't know
<selutha> geckosenator, k3b for kde and xcdroast for gnome
<bonsaikitten> samhob, please tell me ... how can you use gnome and not get angry?
<pontusen> samhob, is it that good? :/
<geckosenator> selutha: I'm talking about for console
<samhob> why would you get angry :d
<Thug-N-Me> bonsaikitten anything else ?
<micmac_> geckosenator, cdrecord and growisofs (dvd+-rw-tools)
<geckosenator> bonsaikitten: what is your point? what do you use?
<geckosenator> micmac_: yeah taht's what it was
<bonsaikitten> geckosenator, blackbox + kde apps
<bonsaikitten> geckosenator, amarok and k3b are really good :-)
<samhob> gnome is great.. kde too.. but gnome is better :p
<geckosenator> bonsaikitten: cool, I use dual output framebuffer with resolutions like 640x200, I don't know how you can stand it your way
<zaggy_nl> Hi, how can I make my mounts mountable by my user account?
<Thug-N-Me> samhob gnome will be great when they delete nautilius ;)
<bonsaikitten> geckosenator, when I was young we had 4 colours out of 16 and we liked it ...
<geckosenator> oh, I get the full 16
<adaptr_> zaggy_nl: add the option "user" in fstab
<Thug-N-Me> *nautilus
<zaggy_nl> ok
<zaggy_nl> cheers
<bonsaikitten> samhob, well ... gtk fileselector :-) that's always fun
<samhob> hmm ..
<samhob> lol thats not gnome..
<samhob> gnome is bonobo , gnome is gnome-volume-manager ; gnome is panel , gnome is gconf , gnome isnt that kde "control-center" ;)
<bonsaikitten> samhob, can't avoid it in gnome ... and it really is amazingly wrong :-)
<selutha> bonsaikitten, what about bashburn then
<bonsaikitten> selutha, don't know that, what does it do?
<samhob> what a cute little troll ;)
<lukaszg> does anyone know program to display logs (from syslog-ng) by apache? I want to have www interface for my syslog.
<LSD`> the gtk 2.6+ fileselector is infinitely better than the one it replaced
<bonsaikitten> samhob, I installed gnome 2.12 yesterday, used it for ~1 minute before deciding that it's worse than 2.10
<selutha> bonsaikitten, it is scripts for buning cds commandline menu kinda
<adaptr_> lukaszg: webmin has one; steal that
<selutha> bonsaikitten, http://bashburn.sourceforge.net/images/new/main.jpg
<bonsaikitten> LSD`, argh ... that's like saying getting shot in the stomach hurts less than getting shot in the head
<samhob> you use kde ?
<bonsaikitten> samhob, rarely, but I try to use Qt apps where I can
<LSD`> bonsaikitten: I take it then you never saw the pre 2.6 GTK file selectors?
<samhob> i use kde and gnome on 2 pc .. but i send slightly more time on gnome ;)
<samhob> so what fdo you use? x
<bonsaikitten> LSD`, they were in some respects better
<bonsaikitten> LSD`, but they are all bad
<bonsaikitten> samhob, blackbox and KDE, KDE is inefficient, but most I use are KDE apps
<bonsaikitten> and the gtk apps really need to die :-)
<lukaszg> adaptr_: hmmm... maybe something.. smaller? :) webmin is quite big application
<adaptr_> lukaszg: then *steal it*, is what I said
<samhob> lol:)
<bonsaikitten> selutha, that looks interesting ...
<samhob> gtk is opensource ;)
<bonsaikitten> Qt also
<HeII> HIGH-FREQ, I recently upgraded my kernel, And now i have problems with starting services. Like I can start it, stop it, and i cant start it again! tried reemerging the package, no use... What can I do, is there verbose option for startind init.d scripts???
<samhob> are yous ure?
<selutha> bonsaikitten, 1.7 has dvd support i think but i dont think that is in the tree
<samhob> sure?
<HeII> i ment hi
<samhob> didnt they have license problems ?
<HeII> I recently upgraded my kernel, And now i have problems with starting services. Like I can start it, stop it, and i cant start it again! tried reemerging the package, no use... What can I do, is there verbose option for startind init.d scripts???
<CalJohn> samhob : aggggggeessss ago
<bonsaikitten> samhob, no, it's GPL
<LSD`> samhob: they used to but they solved them years ago
<samhob> oh ok..
<CalJohn> samhob : thats VERY ANCIENT history now
<LSD`> bonsaikitten: Qt? It's not GPL iirc, but it's GPL compatible
<samhob> oho soryy my culture is a bit outdated..
<CalJohn> LSD` : i think it's dual licenced GPL/prop
<samhob> is gnome 1.6 out ??
<bonsaikitten> Trolltech's Open Source versions are available under the terms of the GPL
<bonsaikitten> http://www.trolltech.com/company/model.html
<EvilGuru> it didn't work, again
<gazihan> I'm trying to help the tree migrate to modular xorg and I have a package that wants virtual/x11. I don't have the compile log of the previous version and emerge won't merge it since it has this dependancy problem. how can I make portage extract its source?
<gazihan> so that i can use the scripts given in the howto to find the real deps and bug the maintainers
<adaptr_> CalJohn: you must be a salesperson, seeing as you can exaggerate better than a 7-year-old... they switched the license about 2 years ago
<gazihan> the question is: how do you make emerge unpack a package with unsatisfied deps
<samhob> lol gazihan i have the same problems
<gazihan> they should find a way or the tree can't migrate that fast
<deluxe> does dri using ati proprietary drivers work with Xorg 7.0 r1
<samhob> so now i do : emerge --pretend tatata > file
<samhob> and then install ;)
<drac> deluxe: yup.
<gazihan> but it won't let me install bc of virtual/x11
<drac> solution to problem where portage wants old X.org back when using 7.0: mkdir -p /etc/portage/profile ; echo 'virtual/x11-6.8' > /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
<deluxe> drac do you have it working and if so what version of ati-drivers kernel and what card
<drac> deluxe: I've seen it working on several cards, on several setups, on several kernels.. ;)
<gazihan> ah
<drac> deluxe: it just works, like it works with older X.org ;)
<gazihan> drac: thanx
<hmbr> hello
<drac> gazihan: np
<deluxe> well the problem that i have is that i can run glxgears fine but when it comes to running fgl_glxgears i get a floating point exception
<gazihan> oh yeah it's in gentoo-wiki :(
<gazihan> :)
<drac> gazihan: yeah, I've wrote that there.. dunno how raped that guide is in other parts.
<deluxe> thats what i get when running fgl_glxgears Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
<deluxe> Floating point exception
<gazihan> lol ok i'll use that and remove later to stop liyng to portage
<HiHa> After compiling kernel and rebooting, system cant find eth1. How to reconfigure that ? net-setup eth1 not working, cause saying /bash: net-setup no such command. I was booting from hard disk, when booting from live CD all was working :( ?
<bonsaikitten> HiHa, do you have the network driver in the kernel or loaded as a module?
<LSD`> HiHa: did you remember to include support for whatever your eth1 is in the kernel?
<HiHa> bonsaikitten, LSD` i was doing genkernel
<gazihan> drac: do you know which package xmkf executable belongs to?
<HiHa> i thought it would find all automaticly
<gazihan> xmkmf sorry
<me_here> which packages are providing consolefont and keymaps ?
<drac> gazihan: imake
<LSD`> HiHa: avoid genkernel, it ****s. compile the kernel properly
<gazihan> thanks
<Thug-N-Me> whats the latest xorg version ?
<Thug-N-Me> 6.8.2-r6 ?
<drac> Thug-N-Me: 7.0
<Thug-N-Me> available on portage ?
<drac> Yes..
<|3|Ac|{> pas mal
<Thug-N-Me> how come i only can get 6.8.2-r6 ?
<bonsaikitten> last unmasked on ~x86 is 6.8.2-r6
<bonsaikitten> 7.0 is still package.mask'ed
<drac> Thug-N-Me: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-howto.xml
<Thug-N-Me> ahh
<cyrillic> I can't use fglrxconfig and when I do startx with an old xorg.conf it tells me could not load module flgrx even though it's in my autoload thing
<signature16> how do i change my apache direcotry from /var/www to /home/whatever
<MidnighToker> evening guys
<Thug-N-Me> signature16 create it and chnage your http.conf file to point your root directory to that ?
<FieldySnuts> s/http/httpd/
<MidnighToker> i've just given up on apache for windows -its causing too many problems, so i'm gonna install gentoo in vmware.
<MidnighToker> -is there anything i should be aware of with regards to gentoo as client OS in vmware on windows?
<LSD`> signature16: you enable userdir support ;)
<FieldySnuts> GenBot: cookie
<GenBot> mns6070 is the user of the week :)
<FieldySnuts> heh ok
<bonsaikitten> MidnighToker, the emulated hardware is not optimal, but it should just work
<marienz> MidnighToker: iirc there was an ebuild that installed the needed kernel modules to make the guest go faster but I'm not sure about the details
<marienz> MidnighToker: probably vmware-linux-tools or something
<bonsaikitten> app-emulation/vmware-linux-tools
<bonsaikitten> marienz, 10 points for guessing right :-)
<MidnighToker> bonsaikitten: thanks, thats what i was thinking.
<MidnighToker> marienz: cool, i thought there might be thankee :-D
<marienz> bonsaikitten: guess was educated by esearch :)
<cyrillic> How can I get fglrxconfig?
<Shedoks> heloo
<ruskie_> y helo thar
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