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<0> IamEthos: any atx motherboard *should* fit into any atx case.. that's what standards are for
<1> IamEthos, yeah fitting the mb to the case shouldn't be a problem.. re-using the internals on the other hand, probably wont be worth it.. also make sure you ca use the power supply for whatever you're gonna run it on...
<1> older systems may not have enough wattage capability to support what you're pitting in..
<2> the ram is probably useless now
<2> right?
<2> hard drive, and PCI cards can keep, though I don't need a modem, and I have a new sound card
<2> hard drives I can wait to upgrade
<2> so I'm thinking the most important things to upgrade first will be mobo, ram, and powersource
<2> right?
<2> and processor
<2> of course
<3> o, is there any particular reason to use gentoo-source over vanilla or vice versa?
<4> IamEthos: what are you going to use this computer for?
<2> dystopianray
<2> I'm not sure
<1> IamEthos, power source you may not need, it depends on what the new mb/cpu needs. ram, yeah you'll probably want to upgrade that even if the old chips are compatible...



<2> I could use it as a backup running Windows XP
<2> or I could use it as a myth box
<4> fihi09: the gentoo patchset has stability, security,performance patches
<0> fihi09: gentoo sources are just vanilla with some extras.. it's really up to you, and there's lots of others to choose from.. ls -l /usr/portage/sys-kernel ;)
<2> or a media computer
<2> running either Win or Gentoo or both
<3> yea i saw them
<2> I'm not sure
<1> fihi09, vesafb-tng is in gentoo-sources, i don't remember seeing that in vanilla...
<2> I need about 8 computers to do everything that I want to do
<5> IamEthos: heh. that's what virtuals/emulators are for
<2> you guys should see the fan in this thing
<2> it's bigger than my head
<6> lo, is there a reason why i can't change Networking --> Generic IEEE 802.11 Networking Stack (in xconfig?0
<7> ay
<8> help! xorg-server-1.0.99 is conflicting with nvidia-glx-1.0.8762
<1> azureal, its '---''d?
<3> ok thanks for all the advices :)
<8> i cant emerge either
<8> of them
<0> azureal: you've probably selected something else that requires it
<6> _AxS_ it's a checkmark...only options are check and period
<7> where are the pids rc-status looks after .... cause there is one service down but it still says its up i knew but forgot ... :( anybody can t6ell me ...
<0> cocaaa: /etc/init.d/whatever zap
<1> azureal, ..don't remember seeing that before... my guess would be if you can't change it that you have a wifi driver enabled elsewhere.
<2> the heat sync is enormous
<4> Phonica: nvidia binary driver does not work with X.org 7.1
<0> cocaaa: pids usually go in /var/run but rc-status doesn't use them
<6> Triffid_Hunter: underneath it, IEEE 802.11 WEP encryption (802.1x) is also either period or checkmark
<8> oh
<8> ive been using 7.0 fine :S
<4> cocaaa: you can use the 'zap' argument to the init script to fix that
<8> is it just a 7.1 thing?
<4> Phonica: yep, you'll need to mask 7.1 and wait for 9xxx series nvidia drivers
<6> _AxS_ oh...this might be it...should i unmerge net-wireless ieee80211?
<8> bum
<1> azureal, ...maybe..
<6> yea, i think i should
<2> could I set up a cron job to automatically move all of the files in a directory from one server to another via FTP?
<1> azureal, im thinking it'd be more because of something in drivers->networking->wireless
<8> echo >=x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99 >> /etc/portage/package.mask ?
<1> azureal, external packages do not affect the kernel .config
<0> IamEthos: yep, wget from the reciever
<4> IamEthos: yes you could
<1> azureal, that is, makeconfig will let you do what you want even if it will break your system.
<2> Triffid_Hunter, I can't set the cron job up on the reciever
<2> it has to be on the original location of the files
<2> I imagine it's still doable
<6> ok
<4> Phonica: this is the mask I'm currently using: http://pastebin.com/706857
<0> IamEthos: yep i'm sure it is.. i've never scripted an ftp upload though so i've no idea what you'd do it with
<9> gentoo/user/kojiro <.<
<0> IamEthos: ftp fuse module comes to mind
<7> dystopianray: what do u mean by that what does the rc-status script look after when telling me the information cause i need postfix shutdown to update ....
<8> cant browse to url
<8> ah sod it ill copy it by hand lol
<2> I get great bandwidth and storage from one host, great administrative features from another
<2> so I want to put all of the media for my site on the bandwidth/storage friendly host
<4> cocaaa: you're saying that the init script is saying the service is still up, yet you know that it is in fact down? so you can run for example: '# /etc/init.d/sshd zap' and it'll force the init script to think it's down as it should be
<2> but i can't create FTP accounts for my users on that host
<2> so they have to go through the administrative host



<10> how to log reboots ?
<11> they are already logged
<2> I figure I can set up a cron job to transfer nightly
<2> everyone will be happy
<0> kristalino: last
<12> quick question, whats the difference between emerge world and emerge system?
<8> cheers dystopianray
<10> caze_donfusion, where ?
<0> zwre: system is just toolchain, base utilities and portage.. world is everything in /var/lib/portage/world
<10> Triffid_Hunter, what is it ?
<2> though here's a neat question
<0> kristalino: command
<2> would it be possible to make two folders look like one folder?
<2> at least to the server
<11> but use Triffid_Hunter suggestion
<0> IamEthos: a union eh.. is that what unionfs does?
<11> last will show you the appropriate log
<13> IamEthos : symlinks sortof could...
<8> hmm
<2> Triffid_Hunter, (shrug)
<6> ok, i think you were right, _AxS_
<8> dystopianry, is it /usr/portage/package.mask ?
<2> although that would be a bad idea
<8> int that case
<7> dystopianray: yep i see but do know where it gets that information that its up ...
<4> Phonica: /etc/portage/package.mask
<2> because then people could download from the administrative server
<10> Triffid_Hunter, thanks !!
<2> and run up my bandwidth
<2> never mind
<0> kristalino: np ;)
<11> it is /var/log/wtmp just for the record :P
<8> typo, meant etc and thats where my file is
<2> why bandwidth, by the way?
<2> I've never really got the logic of that term
<8> its still throwing unhappy about xorg-server
<2> hosts seem to be using "Transfer" more these days
<12> Triffid_Hunter: Thanks! ^^
<0> IamEthos: it's radio terminology.. each band (station) spreads across a group of frequencies, and the wider it is, the more information you can put in it
<1> IamEthos, well theres two components to data transfer, speed (how fast the signal travels), and the bandwidth (how much data travels at a given speed)...
<1> IamEthos, bandwidth just sounded cooler than speed for a while..
<14> How can I emerge -uDN world without getting package conflicts? x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 is causing a conflict.
<1> warriorness, ...you've installed xorg-x11-6.9?
<4> warriorness: you need to resolve the conflict
<6> oh, now i don't have the option "hotplug firmware loading support"
<14> Oh, resolve the conflict, why did I not think of that!
<6> actually i always didnt =P
<5> <sarcasm level="9"/>
<4> warriorness: perhaps you could tell us what the conflict is
<14> I might have installed 6.9; I'm not sure. I ran emerge xorg-x11 a couple of days ago and apparently that's what was installed.
<1> kojiro, good you put that '/' in there, otherwise irc might've piped... :D
<15> i ask again: i have change the channel to channel 7.. and now i have but -> channel_wlan0="7" to my /etc/conf.d/wireless .. i can start my wlan without anyproblems.. but it always stop the conenction after 5 min.. for example when i wanna sync.. or update my world.. or something like that.. it always stop the connection .. why that? i have the problem since i have my wlan kart (i'm on my home-pc not laptop)
<5> _AxS_: pssh, I'm anal, leave me alone
<1> kojiro, s'all good man, just wanted to get something else under such a ligh sarcasm level..
<1> err, high
<5> I read that as 'light'
<14> Nobody has any ideas?
<1> ..that would've worked too..
<16> easy question: how do you show symlinks?
<5> warriorness: pastebin emerge -uDNpvt world please
<5> naxxtor: readlink
<1> warriorness, you would have to do something specific to get xorg-x11 v.6.9, as its masked...
<17> Anyone have a Newegg promo code?
<14> I don't know, I have no idea. I'll run pastebing emerge... now.
<5> Luke-Jr: #gentoo is not the place to ask
<14> *pastebin
<18> anyone know problems with kswapd0 and kernel panics? or how to go about tracking down and solving such preblems?
<16> cheers kojiro
<5> ;-)
<0> amee2k: i had that happen when my swap files were on a corrupt filesystem
<5> Arrgh, kernels and kde. They should not start with the same letter
<5> for the longest time I thought kexec was a kde app
<1> FreshPrince, does it do this under windows too? (dunno if you can test that)


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