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<0> Sakkath: if you absolutely *have* to know, cat /proc/cpuinfo and search for the model and stepping on the intel website
<1> adaptr: I dont know what stage it is, for what arch it was made for.. its's a vps
<0> Sakkath: and check the features at bottom of the cpuinfo output to see if it has em64t
<2> Sakkath, And check that you used the correct stage
<0> Sakkath: stage ? vps ?
<1> AnMaster: i didn't, i twas installed
<1> adaptr: Virtual Private Server
<1> adaptr: stepping is 3
<2> Sakkath, Intel website
<1> fpu tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm pni monitor ds_cpl cid cx16 xtpr
<1> those are the flags
<2> Sakkath, Could be prescott too.
<3> Sakkath: that is a nocona
<0> Sakkath: an Intel Xeon is most definitely not a Virtual anything... it may be that *you* have a piece of it *as* a Virtual Server, but no other way makes any sense
<4> how would I add my user to group audio?
<5> n17ikh|Lappy: man groupadd



<3> Sakkath: it supports long mode (lm)
<2> Sakkath, Yeap a nocona
<1> adaptr: im telling you what cat /proc/cpuinfo is tellin gme
<6> juckes: aparently, you can only format as normal HFS under Linux, not HFS+
<5> n17ikh|Lappy: after you add yourself to the group, you'll need to log out, then back in
<7> n17ikh|Lappy: gp***wd -a user audio
<2> Sakkath, The "lm" means it got 64-bit support
<0> Sakkath: no you're not
<1> AnMaster: ok
<4> thanks, digitise
<1> adaptr: what are you talking about that is exacly what cat /proc/cpuinfo says
<7> n17ikh|Lappy: You're welcome.
<0> AnMaster: no sse3, so no em64t...
<2> adaptr, Why "lm" then?
<0> AnMaster: I don't know, check the intel website :)
<1> wtf
<1> what do i put???
<0> Sakkath: let me quote: <1> adaptr: Virtual Private Server
<8> w/2
<8> bah
<1> adaptr: have you never heard of them? :x
<2> Sakkath, To be on the safe side: i386! ;)
<0> Sakkath: what do you put *where* ?
<1> adaptr: CFLAGS, march
<1> AnMaster: yeah rofl
<0> Sakkath: that is irrelevant, VPS is not a feature of nor has it anything to do with a physical CPU
<2> Sakkath, That CAN'T fail!
<5> heh i386
<1> adaptr: I'm telling you it's a VPS so to tell you I don't know what stage was installed, because I didn't install it!
<0> Sakkath: -march=pentium4 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer, the standard, did you check the site already ?
<2> adaptr, Mine say: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni lahf_lm
<1> adaptr: what site
<1> god someonesays p4 someone says nocona
<2> Sakkath, You got sse3
<1> AnMaster: meaning???
<2> adaptr, You are wrong
<0> Sakkath: a Nocona *is* a pentium 4 Xeon
<1> kerframil: what do i do
<2> adaptr, sse3 is called pni!
<0> AnMaster: of course, keep it up
<0> AnMaster: you must be in PR :)
<2> adaptr, What?
<0> Sakkath: but it's not an -march
<1> kerframil: I got these two idiots fighting I dont know which is right
<1> adaptr: yes nocona is
<0> Sakkath: he is
<9> adaptr: actually nocona shares just about zip with pentium 4, it's an em64t xeon.
<0> blackace: and a xeon is not a pentium 4 ?
<1> My god
<9> adaptr: 64-bit xeons are not, no.
<2> Sakkath, If you use a 64-bit stage: Use -march=nocona
<0> Sakkath: ^^^
<0> I did not know that
<1> AnMaster: I dont know if I do! I told you it's a VPS so I didn't install it
<2> Sakkath, If you use a 32-bit stage: Use -march=pentium4 or -march=prescot I think
<1> AnMaster: I dont know if I do
<10> hi
<11> sup
<2> Sakkath, I c. No idea then.
<0> Sakkath: whether it is a VPS or whatever has nothing to do with the physical CPU ! sjeez
<12> arrgh



<12> this is a capital crime
<2> Sakkath, What is CHOST?
<1> adaptr: Jesus christ I can't tell if it's 64bit stage or not
<10> could anyone explain me how can i install gentoo using the livecd but all by hand without the graphical part and get the handbook for that?
<1> AnMaster: i386-pc-gnu or w/e
<12> a guy on another channel just reported the livecd lacks the man command
<12> is this true? what? is it?
<0> Sakkath: why does that matter ?
<9> Sakkath: does it say amd64?
<2> Sakkath, Then it's a 32-bit stage
<1> AnMaster: i386-pc-linux-gnu
<1> AnMaster: then pentium4?
<2> Yeah
<2> Or prescott.
<9> Japsu: yes, manpages waste too much space on the livecd.
<2> Not sure on that
<9> s/livecd/installcd/ actually
<2> Sakkath, ^
<13> biberao, I think that's the sort of thing you do and then tell us how to do it ;)
<1> AnMaster: thank you
<10> gyaresu im sorry?
<12> blackace: you're begging for hordes of clueless newbies to come and lower the already-so-low SNR here!
<10> you dont know?
<9> Japsu: it's been that way for years, so the hordes probably arrived long ago (and are probably still here) ;)
<5> Japsu: .. huh?
<12> hehe
<12> figures :D
<14> anyone know how to make mouse nav buttons work with xgl?
<10> help pls?
<5> pretty easy to find the man pages online anyway
<9> and most commands have a fairly useful --help output
<10> is it possible to install gentoo like on 2005.0?
<7> biberao: What are you trying to do?
<2> biberao, Yes I think so
<9> biberao: what do you mean exactly, "like on 2005.0" ?
<1> i was told not to use -fomit-frame-pointer so i can trace back
<13> biberao, you want to install with command line only?
<2> biberao, Do you mean no installer?
<2> Sakkath, Good idea
<10> AnMaster yes
<7> Is there another way? =/
<10> gyaresu yes yes
<2> biberao, Maybe. I think so
<1> AnMaster: I forget who told me that, but :-p
<9> biberao: yes, just follow the handbook.
<10> blackace isnt there a possibility
<2> Sakkath, DON'T use -fomit-frame-pointer!
<10> to get the handbook to my pc?
<1> AnMaster: would USE="-x" not get any gtk or qt, so I dont have to do USE="-x -gtk -qt -gnome -kde"
<7> Sakkath: No.
<2> Sakkath, No
<9> biberao: wget 'http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1'
<2> Sakkath, And it's -X not -x!
<15> Ok, yeah, on at least two mirrors: stage3-i686-2006.0.tar.bz2: FAILED md5sum: WARNING: 1 of 1 computed checksum did NOT match
<1> digitise: so I have to do USE="-X -gtk -qt -gnome -kde"
<10> blackace yes im doing that already
<7> Sakkath: Yes.
<1> digitise: because It's a VPS, I wont have anything graphical :-p
<2> Sakkath, Yes
<9> biberao: so, can you explain to me exactly what your problem is?
<16> anyone in here use sk98lin module?
<7> Sakkath: Indeed. =]
<15> Something's messed up with the digests, on more than one mirror.
<17> what file is it that disallows remote logins for root pr default?
<1> digitise: :)
<2> Sakkath, -svga and whatever too then
<1> AnMaster: ok
<5> jozzer: can you define 'remote logins"?
<13> biberao, mnt/cdrom/docs/html/index.html the handbook is on the cd...
<2> Sakkath, I'm not sure if it is standard
<10> gyaresu but isnt the same
<1> AnMaster: USE="-X -gtk -qt -gnome -kde -svga"
<2> Sakkath, use emerge -pv to check
<13> biberao, it's not?


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