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<0> Anyone know how I would find out what module to load for my dwl g520 to work? It's an atheros chipset.
<1> tarsonis: this is how gentoo works, and you should emerge -N world afterwards too.
<2> James-, yeah okay
<1> tarsonis: if you want to make per-package exceptions, there is package.use
<3> blackace: emerge -Na world is better
<4> so blackace my cflags are good I think, not?
<2> well, i use emerge -avuND world every 2nd day. so i dont have any problems with borked useflags or sth
<1> mabus: emerge madwifi-driver madwifi-tools and check out the Wireless section in the networking chapter in the handbook.
<2> but i dont use USE="" normally
<5> what emerge -N/Na world does?
<1> MrSmiley: -N == --newuse
<1> MrSmiley: man emerge for more info
<5> ok i will!
<5> bye for now and tnx!
<1> juckes: I despise -a, -p ftw
<6> blackace: what is wrong with -a?
<7> hello guys please i need some help with port forwarding... my port forwarding script don't seem to work. here's the link: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/JGyCwX44.html
<3> blackace: but's that the point at which things break - emerge -u world without looking to see what it's going to do
<1> nanobanshee: it makes emerge interactive...which it was not designed to be...before -a existed we used -p, it was good enough then, and is most certainly good enough now.
<1> juckes: if someone doesn't use -p beforehand, that's their fault.
<1> juckes: I wasn't telling him to run the command anyways.
<6> blackace: does -a ask once at the top, or does it stop at each package?
<3> 19:25 @ blackace : tarsonis: this is how gentoo works, and you should emerge -N world afterwards too
<8> blackace, Interesting. I emerged udev again, and it never tried to change 50-udev.rules. That file contains the %e. equery belongs /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules says it belongs to the udev package
<9> hey. on slack, debian or os x "gimp-print" came with tons of drivers.. now i just finished emerging gimp-print on my gentoo machine and it comes with just a small few.. how come?
<10> nanobanshee: -a asks once
<10> i use it with -Duav
<11> apikoros: probably cause you dont have the sufficent useflags
<9> rsk, that's possible, can i see what useflags i compiled a particular package with?
<1> juckes: thank you, I don't need you to paste what I said, if you read that in context you would understand.
<6> apikoros: equery uses gimp-print
<1> maybe
<9> or do i have to hedge my bets, unmerge it and then remerge it with new flags?
<11> apikoros: yes, just emerge -va gimp-print
<9> rsk oy vey, i forgot the ppds use flag...
<11> :)
<9> can i compile just that bit, or do i have to unmerge, then merge?
<9> er emerge that is
<12> hi
<11> just add the useflags and emerge it again
<9> rsk, i don't have to unmerge it first?
<12> is it possible that my ATI Radeon 9000 Mobility is a FireGL 9000? lspci shows that O_o
<11> no it will do that itself
<1> neXyon: lspci doesn't lie.
<13> how do you get ahold of lspci?
<14> is there a good reason after copying the correct declaration into /etc/packages/packages.unmask that nwn refuses to let me install 1.66-r1?
<1> daddysmu1f: emerge pciutils
<3> blackace: it's just IMHO if you want to be strict about not advising to set USE etc on the command-line , you should be _stricter_ about advising people to run emerge without -a/p
<12> lspci says: VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000] (rev 01)
<1> juckes: you're missing the point, I wasn't advising him to run that command.
<1> neXyon: then that is what it is.
<9> rsk, is the build faster for having compiled once or will it take just as long?
<13> blackace: you seem to be either very knowledgable, or thrown alot of n00b questions, but either way, I appreciate all the help
<12> that's cool, because isn't firegl the best supported ATI card under linux? =)
<11> apikoros: just as long
<8> blackace, I just moved that file out and re-emerged udev. It was replaced with an identical file. If that is where the error message is coming from, then it is still in the latest package. Do you have the same file?
<15> Hello
<16> 'lo watch
<9> rsk, for future reference... is there a way to query the special use flags applicable to a package w/o having to go through the web interface?
<1> Munger: yup, mine has %e in it everywhere as well
<16> apikoros: web interface?
<15> Can I ask XGL question here? Does somebody using it ?
<9> reisio, i mean http://www.gentoo-portage.com/
<11> apikoros: a terminal isnt a web interface
<1> Munger: rather curious
<16> apikoros: emerge -pv package ?
<9> aha, okay
<1> Munger: I'd ignore it for now, hopefully the rules files will be updated in a later version before %e is _really_ deprecated :)
<8> blackace, I can only find one report of the error, here.... http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg171429.html
<9> thanks very much rsk, and reisio
<8> blackace, I guess. I wonder why nobody else seems to get the error though
<16> np homie
<17> do i need libflash too for flash in konqueror? emerged netscape-flash and scanned for new pluging but it won't work
<15> XGL users are you here ? ;-)
<11> watchcat: #xgl #gentoo-xgl
<18> 52 of 269... Hm.
<15> Thanks a lot RSK
<19> hello channel
<18> I have a small problem. I've worked around it so far, but it's annoying. In Thunderbird when I click on a link it does nothing. Opening in any of the web browsers would be fine. Ideally it would open the link in Firefox. I'm running in KDE, I'm not sure if that makes a difference.
<8> blackace, I'm not really bothered about that warning. It's just that I was trying to get my iPod working properly with udev. When things don't work, I always look closely at warnings and such
<1> Munger: understable :)
<19> i'm setting uo gentoo on my computer and before i install X i wana install some packages (vi links....
<20> ok
<20> save yourself some trouble and don't install x
<19> i used -x, but can i get anything compiled like that to recompile after i install X
<16> Jessica1: http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/15898.html
<21> brb
<16> Jessica1: first result for 'kde thunderbird open link in firefox'
<19> in one command without recomipleing the whole system
<1> anchorman: yes, change your USE and take advantage of the --newuse option to emerge
<1> anchorman: man emerge for more info
<22> blackace: Do you use modular xorg?
<1> segin: no
<8> blackace, Can you look at this page for me? http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Using_an_iPod_With_Gentoo_Linux... I have a question
<16> Jessica1: some others look like they might be better, hard to say
<16> Jessica1: http://tinyurl.com/kau2u
<22> blackace: do you have any obsolete video cards?
<1> Munger: gentoo-wiki.com is not gentoo's wiki and as such does not comprise supported documentation
<19> thanks
<1> segin: yes, but I don't use them anymore...as they are obsolete... ;)
<8> blackace, I know, but it's more a question about udev config. Look at the bit where it shows you how to set up 10-ipod.rules
<22> blackace: well, that ****s. I was hoping someone was using the xorg-provided drivers.
<1> Munger: what about it?
<1> segin: someone somewhere probably is, just not me :)
<23> Hi all .. "little" issue .. I updated a few things and have been running that xgl desktop (with compiz) for a few weeks .. after this latest update, I've got to manually startx .. all works grand, but .. how come I gotta keep starting x by hand? rc.conf is still good, kdm is still good .. what else?
<8> blackace, I was wondering what the KERNEL="sd?2 means. I have this in /dev ... /dev/ipod -> sda2
<1> JustinS: rc-update add xdm default?
<23> blackace: Yeah .. that's all good too ..
<8> blackace, I actually need /dev/sda3, not /dev/sda3. Is that what I should change?
<1> Munger: ? means one of any character
<22> blackace: It is 100% impossible to get full functionality out of any semi-modern video card without using proprietary drivers.
<1> Munger: the 2 to a 3 I guess
<8> blackace, Ahhh. Thought so. Looks that is a typo then. Thanks
<23> Okay .. who broke shoutcast.com ..
<1> segin: this isn't the forum for a debate like that, but that isn't strictly true...anything is possible :)
<3> Munger: does your ipod find it's way into /dev/disk ?
<16> juckes: its
<1> Munger: no, someone else probably had a different setup
<3> reisio: true
<8> blackace, You are right. /dev/sda2 is for a Windows iPod. Mine is mac-fomatted, so I need /dev/hda3
<8> blackace, I mean sda3
<1> :)
<22> blackace: no, i'm pretty sure of it. Since ATi and nVidia are the only video card manufacturers left, and it's impossible to get 100% full functionality using F/OSS drivers ith their latest (no moe than 2 years old) cards, my statement is true.
<24> !seen sorcerer11
<25> sorcerer11 (n=magusirc@72.240.60.254) was last seen quitting from #gentoo 3 hours, 31 minutes ago stating (Connection timed out).
<22> blackace: Intel stopped making video cards in june 05, IIRC
<1> segin: no it really isn't...it is possible to fully reverse engineer hardware.
<22> blackace: no, i am referring to the here and now.
<26> any file browser?
<1> segin: no, you are stating an absolute...which is false...if you weren't being absolute, you should have specified.
<22> LinuxMafia: any proper english use?
<26> i need a file browser
<1> LinuxMafia: ls
<16> LinuxMafia: what DE are you using?
<6> LinuxMafia: mc
<1> LinuxMafia: and I need a million dollars btw
<22> LinuxMafia: Do you know how to use command line? use ls, cp, rm, and mv :)
<26> lloll Black-Star
<8> juckes, Yes, and it now appears correctly as /dev/ipod. Thanks again blackace ;)
<26> reisio, gnome
<26> segin, no gui
<22> blackace: at any rate, do you have any idea why all the xorg-provided drivers would fail due to missing syms?
<1> LinuxMafia: Places->Home Folder
<16> LinuxMafia: GNOME comes with a file browser called "Nautilus"
<26> segin, front end that i can run from command line
<22> LinuxMafia: Try "Microsoft Windows"
<26> reisio, thanks alot
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