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<0> Is it any different for R7 than previous releases?
<1> any liveusb image for downloading?
<2> hi! is there any app in portage that allow me to see all connections for all processes and limit thier speed?
<3> I'm using almost the same xorg.conf for R7 than I did for R6.
<0> weird
<4> dragonheart: no it's not gentoo specific. The php ebuild is clear on that. I can choose only 1 option among cgi and cli :(
<5> FaerN: iftop will show you throughput per connection, can't control it though
<0> I also have GDM launching Xorg -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf, just to make sure
<4> other tiny httpd that supports php?
<3> may I take a look at your xorg.conf?
<0> sure
<6> atmat: or get a chroot for it?
<2> iamben, ok
<4> chroot?
<4> hmmmm
<5> FaerN: afaik, thats as close as you're gonna get to what you want
<4> this sounds like a cool hack.
<6> atmat: bit more secure too. bit more work too but thats the nature of it
<6> atmat: ROOT=/var/chroot../ emerge xyz
<0> Luthien, can you accept files via DCC?
<0> If not I'll just nopaste
<3> Emon, yes, I should be able to get via DCC
<2> iamben, so no network limitation software exists? :S
<0> Well, I'm trying to send it. Let me try again.
<0> I know I can send them.
<7> hey whats up
<3> Then, I must have something wrong on my side.
<5> FaerN: not that you can configure on the fly w/ point & click or anything, its done at the kernel level and its somewhat complicated
<7> is this the right channel for gentoo related questions?
<4> dragonheart: I was thinkin that lighttpd may complain but it may not. Chroot could be a good idea. I'll run another session of lighttpd in a higher port like 8080..
<8> guys, i am currently running a mandriave system. is it possilble to build gentoo binaries on this system which i can then install on my laptop?
<3> Emon, just nopaste then.
<9> if I have an Athlon XP should I download the i586, the i686 , or the x86 stage 4 tarball?
<9> stage 3 i mean
<0> Luthien: http://rafb.net/paste/results/0O9vNG24.html
<8> my desktop is P4 whereas laptop is P4 M
<10> allenfroman, I'd pick the i686 one.
<5> qwqwek: you can set up a gentoo chroot on the mandriva box
<6> atmat: have fun
<4> heh thnx
<3> Emon, taking a look...
<4> gnite alla
<4> :-)
<4> c/lose
<11> when I do "p***wd username" I get this p***wd: Critical error - immediate abort
<7> i have like 6 sata modules being loaded on boot but i cant seem to find them anywhere in the module scripts
<11> ?!
<12> aww
<13> i can empty /var/tmp right?
<12> i readyour name at atom ant atmat
<12> dunno why.
<12> but i got excited :)
<8> iamben:if i pick up sane useflags. then it should e allright? does P4 and P4M make a difference in compilations
<7> i dont want them to load since i dont have a sata motherboard
<8> iamben:and how do i make binaries?
<12> andrew21: use rmmmod and modules-update
<7> thanks
<12> andrew21: even better, stop using genkernel.
<7> yea i was gonna build one today
<5> qwqwek: the cflags on p4 & p4m are the same iirc, and use emerge -B to build packages
<12> and rmmod, not rmmmmod. i dunno what the heck i was typing there :)
<0> Is genkernel that bad?
<7> should i use gentoo source or the source straight from kernel.org
<8> iamben:thanks
<0> I used it for the first time the other day
<5> andrew21: if you want straight from kernel.org, use vanilla-sources in portage.. but i still recommend gentoo-sources
<0> This isn't a very "serious" system, just a little desktop for fun, so I didn't really care.
<7> ok
<8> iamben:i dont have any installation media. how should i proceed? i have done install using CD's before, but i dont have them now. just an internet connection
<14> where is the paste bin
<5> Emon: the main problem i have w/ it is that you have no knowledge of your kernel configuration when it is done
<7> and genkernel saves the .config right? so i wont have to go though every single thing
<0> iamben: ah
<11> what's the default p***word when I add a user ? because I can't change his p***word cause p***wd gives error ?!!
<5> qwqwek: on the mandriva box you mean?
<3> Emon, your xorg.conf seems fine. Have you tried with DefaultDepth 16?
<8> iamben:yes
<0> Luthien, no, but I will
<15> hawking: what error does it give?
<0> be back in a few
<8> iamben:i guess i have to download some stage?
<5> qwqwek: just mkdir gentoo and extract a stage3 there
<13> i can empty /var/tmp right?
<5> then chroot into that dir and continue the install
<11> Liquid_Fire: p***wd: Critical error - immediate abort
<8> iamben:ok, thanks
<5> qwqwek: you can leave out several of the steps in this case, like building a kernel & installing a bootloader
<16> YOu guys bashing genkernel again? YOu can always know the kernel config be reading /usr/src/linux/.config, or zcat /proc/config.gz. If you tell genkernel what config to use with --oldconfig, it is as tame as a lamb.
<8> iamben:allright
<5> DrChandra: you can FIND the kernel config that way, doesnt mean you know it
<0> Luthien, no luck.
<5> DrChandra: when something needs to be changed in the kernel, it takes 3x as long to explain to a genkernel user compared to a user who manually configured... THATS why i dont like it
<11> LiquidF?re: any ideas?!
<0> I ***ume you were thinking that X was reverting to 640x480 because the default driver wasn't working with those high resolutions at 24?
<14> why do i get this error http://rafb.net/paste/results/NvPIXt56.html
<0> Or something like that.
<3> Emon, what about /var/log/Xorg.0.log? what does it say under validated modules?
<16> iamben: If you write it, you know it. `make menuconfig ; genkernel --oldconfig kernel`
<17> tommyangelo, /var/tmp/portage
<3> Emon, yes something like that.
<18> someone pls remind me to bless kojiro when I'll be in heaven
<15> hawking: don't know.. have you updated some system package before this started happening?
<11> Liquie_Fire: yeah
<5> DrChandra: no one actually does that
<16> iamben: YOu're talking to one.
<8> iamben:stage3-x86 or stage3-i686?
<5> well VERY few
<15> hawking: if you've updated system packages, which ones, and did you run etc-update?
<13> NeddySeagoon: thx
<5> qwqwek: i686 is slightly more optimized, either one works
<0> Luthien, I think I found something: (WW) (640x350,1280x1024@60) mode clock 31.5MHz exceeds DDC maximum 0MHz
<16> iamben: I've run into a few genkernel users in here.
<5> DrChandra: if you dont mind me asking, why do you use genkernel instead of make && make modules_install?
<0> Maximum 0 Hz? wtf :/
<3> Emon, ideed.
<5> normal people either manually config/install or let genkernel handle it all
<13> so how can I tell portage to use somewhere els as it's unpacking space, temporarily. Is that possible?
<8> iamben:cheers
<19> whats the offtopic gentoo channel?
<0> Luthien, I have two monitors connected, it's babbling something about not being able to retrieve DCC on the second (probably because it's ancient)
<5> tommyangelo: PORTAGE_TMPDIR in make.conf
<7> gentoo-ot
<5> sonyman: #gentoo-pub
<19> thanks
<13> iamben: tar mate
<3> Emon, using them at the same time?
<20> Does anyone know how to launch a gnome-panel applet from e.g. gnome-terminal?
<21> iamben, I must not be normal then - I use genkernel --menuconfig all, mainly because I can never get a completely manually configured kernel to work
<16> iamben: genkernel mounts /boot, does all the build steps, renames and installs all the files and modules, edits grub to add the new kernel, and backs up my kernel config to /etc/kernels. One step, no forgetting to mount /boot and junk like that. I made 100s of kernels the manual way, this way is just more convenient.
<17> tommyangelo, set your portage_tmp in make.conf see make.conf.example
<0> Luthien, well the second is just mirrored right now
<5> DrChandra: i consider that a manual config still, when people say they dont like genkernel they are talking about a fully automated config
<19> how do I set the clock to localtime? I've done it before but I can't remember the one file that needs editiing
<5> ABCD: if that is the case, then you are in the group i was talking about that doesnt know how their kernel is configured
<16> iamben: The only trick is: Don't let it choose its own config to use, or when the resulting kernel boots, it will start flying around the room with rabid monkeys flying out its ears.
<0> The video card is just cloning the output by default (just like when I boot up and see my BIOS config on two screens)
<5> DrChandra: i see. i admit, i dont know all the ins & outs of genkernel
<15> sonyman: /etc/conf.d/clock ?
<22> hey all
<3> Emon, I have no experience with using two monitors. But when solving problems it's better to always keep things simple. Try to make just one monitor work without the other one connected.
<19> Liquid_Fire: that'll do. Thanks :)
<16> iamben: Well, yes, I do the config manually. No reason to even try to automate that, because no ocde that read my mind (yet).
<5> DrChandra: the problem i have w/ genkernel is when something comes up like "did you enable the correct nic driver in your kernel" and they say "uhhh i have no idea"
<16> code
<3> Emon, If you manage to get it working then try to make the other one and finally both at the same time.
<5> anyway ill stop talking about it now, its a little OT
<23> how do i setuid an executable?
<16> iamben: Right. I won't ever advise anyone to build a kernel without make xconfig or menuconfig first.
<16> iamben: k
<5> DrChandra: we're on the same page then =)
<0> Luthien, all right. Also, here's all the warnings from the X log: http://rafb.net/paste/results/te46OU34.html
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