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<0> _AxS_: no :|
<1> gentoo_helper, Its not possible to build them in the kernel - they *must* be modules
<2> rsk: any suggestion how to find out what's going wrong there? it's been compiling for days now, and it's at least the 3rd time gcc is being recompiled...
<3> lnxdumi: ...one sec not sure
<4> i need to save some diskspace. how can i control which kernel sources are installed? i like to download and compile it myself, but portage keeps downloading a heap. also, is there a way to keep portage from caching all the sources? i'd rather redownload than have a 2.7G cache
<3> lnxdumi: if you [ctrl][c] it, 'alias cp=cp' then it shouldn't prompt anymore
<1> icks, Look at your /var/log/emerge.log to see whats been happening
<3> lnxdumi: or cp -a --force ....
<3> Fossi: well if you don't use ccache it won't cache the sources. then all you have to do is clean up your /usr/portage/distfiles/ dir.
<0> _AxS_: my issue is not related to keyboard drivers (I checked the config for AT Keyboard), so I m digging
<5> _AxS_: k... did the alias, and i guess it all copied?
<3> lnxdumi: did you run the cp again?
<5> yes
<4> _AxS_: ok, no setting to do that automagically i guess?
<5> came back to prompt mighty quick
<3> lnxdumi: yep ok. so that should have effectively reinstalled the kernel.



<6> NeddySeagoon, Is it not allowed by the creators of the modules? Or is the kernel mostly "GNU GPL pure" and adding third party code would taint it?
<1> Fossi, empty /usr/src/distfiles from time to time. You can tell portage not to bother you with kernels by adding your kernel to /etc/profile/package.provided (I think) read man portage
<3> lnxdumi: ls /mnt/gentoo/lib/modules/, you still just have one dir?
<5> _AxS_: remove cd and try boot?
<5> oh
<3> lnxdumi: just to comfirm the copy succeeded
<5> _AxS_: one dir, yes
<3> cool. umount /mnt/gentoo/boot, umount /mnt/gentoo, reboot.
<5> wait
<7> hi im trying to follow the qmail walkthrough for gentoo provided on the gentoo page, but when i try to setup vpopmail up in mysql, it gives an error saying: ERROR 1146 (42S02): Table 'vpopmail.vlog' doesn't exist anyone know how to get past this?
<4> NeddySeagoon: thanks, will take a look again
<8> morning
<1> gentoo_helper, Some modules are not ready for inclusion in the kernel because they are not well tested. They must be GPL too, as you say
<5> _AxS_: 2.6.15-gentoo-r4 and 2.6.15-gentoo-r5
<3> lnxdumi: that's no biggie..
<2> ok, portage is restarting itself again and again from scratch after updating itself... then it compiles all the packages from start, thinks to have updated itself (because i ran emerge -e system as suggested in the quick installation guide) and the whole thing starts again....
<3> lnxdumi: ok before you reboot, could you check something?
<1> Fossi,
<6> NeddySeagoon, I thought ndiswrapper was GPL. But I can definitely attest to its not being entirely stable. :(
<5> _AxS_: absolutely... you are the commander of this ship
<8> is there plan to 'encourage' package maintainers to start using 8-character usernames (if the package requires one) now that procps is sticking to the open standard? (it now displays usernames > 8 characters as integers instead)
<3> lnxdumi: just want to make sure that your /mnt/gentoo/boot/grub/grub.conf's root is "root (hd0,0)"
<2> so i guess the quick-installation-guide is wrong.
<1> Fossi, then you can clean oout kernels with emerge -Cp gentoo-sources
<6> NeddySeagoon, Oh well. Now that I know what I'm doing (or at least I think I do) I'm going to go build ndiswrapper again. Thanks for the help. :-D
<4> yeah. sure :)
<1> gentoo_helper, good luck
<5> root (hd0,0)
<5> yes
<2> what would be the correct way to run emerge, if -e gives this behaviour?
<8> for instance, we now have 'messagebus' (10 characters), 'haldaemon' (9) and 'postmaster' (ok, this one is used a lot :-)
<3> good. ok all the configs are good then, reboot. if it still doesn't work, i'm gonna step you through a kernel compile
<1> icks, there is a problem with portage - its not supposed to do that
<5> _AxS_:yes.... "root (hd0,0)" confirmed
<3> lnxdumi: good. ok all the configs are good then, reboot. if it still doesn't work, i'm gonna step you through a kernel compile
<9> why do su and sudo tell me I have the wrong pw when I try to use them w/ the root pw?
<5> _AxS_ Kewl
<7> does anyone know a guide for the easiest way to setup a full mail server, to send and recieve mail?
<2> NeddySeagoon: well maybe -e should keep the portage-package in the tree, even if called with -e?
<9> why do su and sudo tell me I have the wrong pw when I try to use them w/ the root pw?
<2> err i mean emerge should do that... ;)
<1> icks, I'm not sure how it knows when to terminate - I'm not a /dev
<3> daddysmurf: are you in the 'wheel' group?
<9> _AxS_: not yet... I know how to fix it tho, ty
<2> ok i'll try and ask there, thanks
<1> daddysmurf, sudo expects your user p***wd. Su needs you to be in wheel
<7> anyone know of one?
<5> _AxS_:can i curse on here... prolly not.... D-A-R-N
<3> lnxdumi: still nothing huh...
<10> archvile, "full mailserver" makes no sense
<3> lnxdumi: ok time to compile a real kernel.
<0> I lose control of my keyboard after booting a freshly compiled kernel, what could be the cause ? I already checked if the module was compiled and yes it is...so what can I do ?
<5> _AxS_: fun! let's do it
<7> UQlev: one that sends and receives.
<7> thats all i want
<3> lnxdumi: boot the livecd, mount /mnt/gentoo and /mnt/gentoo/boot, 'chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash', 'emerge gentoo-sources'
<11> Ghotcom: load it
<12> Ghotcom, are you *absolutely* certain that keyboard support is enabled in the 'Input Devices' section during kernel configuration?
<11> modprobe module
<11> or just put it in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.*
<0> aardvaark: yes the option was marked enabled



<5> _AxS_: mount with the same sda1/3 commands as before?
<3> yep
<4> bye and thanks for all the fish :)
<1> _AxS_ , you will need /proc and /dev too
<3> NeddySeagoon: good point -- tho /dev will be handled by udev won't it? (usually is for me)
<1> _AxS_, not in the chroot
<0> aardvaark: what could be a hint is that i got errors related to udev when booting
<3> lnxdumi: before you run that chroot, 'mount --bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev' and 'mount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc'
<13> hmm, getting this error when I modprobe nvidia:
<14> use a pastebin if it's more than 3 lines
<13> nvidia: Unknown symbol remap_page_range
<13> nvidia: Unknown symbol pci_find_cl***
<15> ee
<16> hi folks ... trying to get gnome-volume-manager to automount my thumbdrive
<16> i have udev creating the symlink in /dev/ when the device is plugged in
<5> _AxS_: is there a space between 'gentoo' and '/bin' in the chroot command?
<16> i also have an entry to this symlink in /etc/fstab
<3> lnxdumi: yep.
<14> try asking #gnome too
<16> with an auto option
<17> yuriks I get that same error
<5> _AxS_: k... all that done
<3> tlhivyou have hal and dbus?
<16> but gnome-volume-manager is not automounting
<16> _AxS_ yes
<3> lnxdumi: emerge gentoo-sources?
<16> and both are running
<13> Juggernaut: I had it and fixed it some way
<13> but I just updated the kernel
<5> _AxS_: yeah, it is running and is at 10%
<16> i've even got hal-device-manager and it shows up as soon as it's plugged in
<16> but it's not automounting
<18> hello
<5> _AxS_: 50%
<3> lnxdumi: cool. ok so once that's done you'll have your kernel source. then its time to configure it. might be good to write down all the stuff from 'lspci' so you know what all the hardware is you'll want to set up.
<18> I have an AMD64 CPU. I also have an 32-bit chroot-jail. In that chroot-jail I have compiled Firefox. How can I use it in my 64 bit enviroment?
<5> _AxS_: any way to connect to a networked windows printer?
<3> Cybertinus: well if you're using int within a chroot jail, you gotta linux32 chroot jail/path firefox.. but you can run 32bit stuff natively, you don't need to have a jail, if you're multilib
<16> _AxS_: any ideas?
<19> Hi. Question about power management: before I used to only 'modprobe apm' for my PC to automatically powerdown when I ran shutdown... Now, it seems that the apm module doesn't exists anymore? I can't even see the option for APM in the kernel config.. and yes I do have the prompt for devel. stuff turned on. I never turned on the ACPI stuff before either... acn anyone explain? Thanks.
<3> lnxdumi: sure. ..but right now? prolly not... its ok, you can have multiple terminals open to check lspci output.
<20> Does anyone have here some 3d problems with et-2.60b ? i have opengl acceleration enabled for ati but et says mesa and it doesnt run.
<3> tlhiv_work: no sorry.. i just know you need hal and dbus... i thought it was pretty much automatic after that...
<16> me too
<18> _AxS_: I have a /lib32 and a /lib64, so I think I'm multilib
<5> _AxS_: k, but i am in ctrl-alt-f1 right now
<3> raven: apm and acpi are both still in kernel config, under power management...
<3> lnxdumi: ok thats fine.. [ctrl][alt][f2] does that put you into X or another terminal?
<3> raven: but you may have both disabled..
<21> hello
<21> what should i delete in order to make some space on my hard drive ?
<5> _AxS_: ummm another terminal i guess... how to switch back to the one running the compile?
<21> i am trying to emerge world
<3> glontu: /usr/portage/distfiles/*, /var/tmp/portage/*
<21> and i got an error saying that there is not enough space
<3> lnxdumi: [ctrl][alt][f1]
<18> _AxS_: how do I run it natively then? add the line www-client/mozilla-firefox ~x86 in /usr/portage/package.keywords?
<21> _AxS_ can i make it use another drive ?
<21> i have another partition
<21> o the same drive
<21> witch has plenty of space
<3> glontu: you can format it and mount it in /var/tmp/portage...
<22> hmm... i'm getting lots of 404s when emerging genkernel
<22> it got there eventually, but went through a few mirrors...
<23> Cillian you ran mirror-select?
<3> Cillian: mirrors might be updating themselves..
<22> thehailo: urm.... no...
<22> so it's not my fault then?
<0> How do I know which gcc and glibc i am using ?
<21> _AxS_ can i mount it even if i don't format ? jut ... a temorary thing
<21> ?
<23> Cillian if you don't have custom mirrors in your make.conf, then it's not a local issue
<22> ok
<22> thanks


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