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<0> guys, i have my gentoo installed in different partition, for example /opt /root are in different partition, now i got a new HardDisk (80GB), i want my whole linux to be installed in that , in one partition, will a simple "rsync" on "/" will do the trick ?
<1> where are emerged packages stored after they're downloaded?
<2> Radtoo_ / TheSimkin: xine. I also have the choice of gstreamer, but I have found that far less stable
<3> why wont mplayer -fs scale the vid to fullscreen?
<4> im gonna take nap lol
<5> srm: try mplayer -vo file.avi
<2> srm: which video output are you using? (-vo ) , the default x11 can't scale
<4> thanks 8-)
<6> FieldySnuts: I have gstreamer alsasink and it IS stable
<7> FieldySnuts: xine is what i use too
<6> FieldySnuts: (~x86 though)
<8> hmm, could anybode help me? im trying to install gentoo from the live cd, without network, but after i have sellected my options, the "installation started" message come, but it never moves frem 0%
<2> i'm ~x86 on it as well
<9> Phired, do you know how to compile your kernel?
<3> VO [x11]
<2> ah well. peice of crap, tired of fighting it.
<10> KOC: no :s
<11> people here who have nforce4, what T is your chipset running at ?
<6> FieldySnuts: Maybe you're just unlucky :)
<3> using mplayer -vo gives error opening/initialising outputdriver
<12> sque, for a_file in $(find "/whatever/dir/you/want/to/fix/"); do touch -c "$a_file"; done
<13> hey i was wondering if there is a script that does like a cron thingymabob for daily update checking and installing?
<12> sque, It will be slow but it will work
<9> Phired: did you use genkernel to install your kernel
<12> sque, Don't run on /
<0> guys, i have my gentoo installed in different partition, for example /opt /root are in different partition, now i got a new HardDisk (80GB), i want my whole linux to be installed in that , in one partition, will a simple "rsync" on "/" will do the trick ?
<12> sque, But on /usr/
<14> Death_Wish, u can make a cron script
<6> p4r0l3: Well. if touch remains broken and you need to create empty files, you can just use cat echo "" > file
<10> KOC: I'm not sure, I think so, I used the LiveCD and just followed the wizard.
<13> how do i do that i never used it
<12> sque, Will fix _all_ files and dirs in /usr and subfolders
<13> nevermind ill google
<14> Death_Wish, u surew
<15> Radtoo_: Well, it happens when I'm emerging packages. I'm not trying to just create empty files
<6> p4r0l3: oh. you did set a "date" already and symlinked /etc/localtime to /usr/share/zoneinfo/your_location already, tho?
<14> Death_Wish, i just made /etc/cron.daily/portage.cron
<8> nobody able to help? i dont even get an error message :S the gtk installer fails to
<12> sque, Are you still there?
<9> Phired: sorry I'm kinda new too so I don't know how the LiveCD wizard works. But you can try following these instructions
<9> Phired, http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kernel-upgrade.xml
<14> Death_Wish, and put exec /usr/bin/emerge --sync in it and made it executable with chmod a+x
<10> KOC: ok, thanks will check that out.
<9> Phired, do the "manual" configuration
<9> Phired, and when you do "make menuconfig" there will be a place to add ACPI support
<16> For some reason my samba is not working and it wants to hang at samba->start smbd... I have no clue why it would be do that... The only thing I can think of is because I installed SWAT on box too... Any ideas?
<10> KOC: I'll let you know how it goes...
<17> is this common....i left last night...and i had like a little bit over 3gig of space on hd so i did emerge -uD world and well now it's still goin on 47 of 47 openoffice.....well anyhow hd space is now 226 meg.....is that normal for Gentoo for 47 emerges it'll take up 3gig?
<6> Rat: maybe if swat ruined your config...
<6> Rat: did you try to start smbd directly?
<16> Do you mean /etc/init.d/samba start?
<18> HIGH-FREQ, ooo is huge: having two versions at once can take quite a bit of space
<6> Rat: no. Plain "smbd", possibly with a -d setting
<17> but 3 gigs....come on now ;(
<0> is it a good idea to installed linux in a 80GB hardisk as one partition ?
<19> What option do I put in my xorg.conf under the mouse for my scroll wheel, its like "ZAxis Mapping" or something
<6> Zeon: not especially
<20> Hostile: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml has a section about it
<6> Zeon: usually, you'd want to have a swap partition, too
<14> HIGH-FREQ, what did u emerge?
<21> any1 can help me with fbsplash config?
<6> Zeon: Maybe also boot and/or home.
<0> Radtoo_: why do u think itz not a good idea ?
<19> SwifT: thanks man
<16> hmmmm
<6> Zeon: Because you need hard disk swap space.
<6> Zeon: Unless you have that much physical ram it never gets full.
<0> Radtoo_: O well , haha that was implicit, obvioiulsy i will have 256MB of swap :P
<6> Zeon: And the normal filesystems are just not really good with swap files
<22> can anybody explain to me the difference between a x86 and a i686 2006.0 stage3 ?
<6> Zeon: make that 1GB or so
<23> HIGH-FREQ, compiling OOo needs 3.5GB of temp space
<24> msid: one is compiled with optimizations for newer computers I think
<24> msid: the differen't is probably not noticable
<6> Zeon: and then you also should have a /boot for simplicity's sake. :)
<20> msid: the x86 works on all x86 systems; i686 is optimized for i686 (or higher) CPUs
<22> so, is a p4 celeron considered to be a i686 ?
<20> msid: yes it is afaik
<25> yes
<6> Zeon: Whether you also create a /home is up to your backupping and multi-boot plan.
<0> Radtoo_: 1GB , i dont think i will ever need that much, cuz right now i have only 128MB of swap, and guess wot itz been never used... cuz i have 512MB of RAM, and i dont use MatLab :P
<23> msid, a p4 even
<22> in fact, which are the CPU archs considered to be i686?
<26> msid anything above the pentium 2 is i686
<26> and including
<6> Zeon: eeehm... you know, with gentoo you'll compile quite a lot
<22> i see... thanx very much guys ;)
<6> Zeon: Some of these compiles will surely go past your physical ram, and then either you swap it out or you create even more hard disk access'
<24> I don't think I will use swap much in the future
<7> i enable swap even if i don't really need it
<24> TheSimkin: why?
<7> so that if there is something loaded that i'm not really using it can free memory so you can have more cache
<27> a system without swap and without free memory is dead
<7> that too
<27> i believe a system with swap, and without free memory can still be restored
<26> geckosenator swap is still useful, some parts of the kernel get swapped there which would otherwise unnecessarily use RAM
<6> stefaan: dead? 0_o
<17> hell i think most swap usage i've seen is 100meg on my puter....right now its at 69meg
<24> elfredo: I have 768 megs of ram, I really don't need tha tmuch
<6> stefaan: eeeh? I dont understand what you mean.
<7> i have 2gb of memory at work
<7> with 1gb of swap
<6> HIGH-FREQ: You surely compile sometimes, no?
<24> elfredo: I could get by with 128 megs of ram, so why do I need swap?
<7> sometimes things get swapped even though the memory isn't all used up
<17> doin it now ;)
<2> it's always good to have SOME swap. just in case something goes crazy and runs away with a ton of ram. the alternative is that the kernel will start killing things off.
<27> Radtoo: I mean, when the system runs out of memory, it'll constantly be rearranging things, you don't get a chance to do anything
<26> geckosenator i was just referring to the general principle of why swap is still useful
<7> remember that your memory is also your cache, and your cache really improves the speed!
<0> Radtoo_: arright i will have a BIG enuff swap, dont worry, but right now my system is laid over two different hardisk, like /opt /root are in two different partitions... but as i said before, iam planning to stuff everything into one BIG HDD... ONE PARTITION, just wondering whether a simple "rsync -avr /" will do the trick or not :P
<2> 1.5GB ram / 2.0GB swap here
<27> Radtoo: when you have swap, it will use the disk and wait for that
<6> stefaan: Most likely it will come to kill the process.
<27> so you do get a chance to do at least something
<24> elfredo: oh of course, I don't think they should remove support for it or anything
<27> Radtoo: in most situations it will come to kill processes very late, or the processes keep on spawning
<24> I just see swap as a waste of disk space
<6> stefaan: Hm... well not on my machine :)
<27> Radtoo: depends on what you use your system for
<24> I am always running out of disk space, and I have plenty of ram...
<6> stefaan: I dont have many problems with interactivity when swap usage is low.
<27> if you are just a single person using a desktop, go ahead and do anything you please
<0> Radtoo_: arright i will have a BIG enuff swap, dont worry, but right now my system is laid over two different hardisk, like /opt /root are in two different partitions... but as i said before, iam planning to stuff everything into one BIG HDD... ONE PARTITION, just wondering whether a simple "rsync -avr /" will do the trick or not :P
<6> stefaan: uhm.. i mean high of course
<6> geckosenator: you know, if you dont create a real /swap filesystem I think it does it on the normal /swap
<6> geckosenator: Unless you explicitly prevent it from doing so... but I'm not entirely sure :)
<24> what is the normal /swap?
<6> geckosenator: just in the filesystem...
<6> geckosenator: hmm... wait maybe I'm wrong.
<24> Radtoo_: I think you can set it up to do that, but it shouldn't do that by default
<24> like a swap file?
<28> someone here who is running an dual boot system ??
<6> geckosenator: Hm... ye, I think I confused something there, sorry!
<6> geckosenator: either way, that means even more hdd access', just for the physical files that actually can be dropped out of ram
<0> ^Willie^: i do
<24> Radtoo_: well depends on the filesystem, if /tmp is raid 0, and you have a swap file there..
<28> zeon if you reinstall linux or windows is the other side still working ??
<6> geckosenator: ye well sure, the swap file makes the difference. Cant see what raid has got to do with it, though :)
<6> geckosenator: But swap is better than normal filesystem accesses for that purpose :)
<3> ^Willie^: if you want to reinstall windows, you should be sure to install it into a another partition than the one your linux mbr is located, else it is gone
<0> ^Willie^: installing linux is not a problem, but if u install windows. then it overwrites the MBR and only loads windows..... the solution is that u boot using the LiveCD, chroot into the gentoo and just run "lilo'
<29> hi how can i format an ipod on gentoo the wiki`s dont tell me that
<24> Radtoo_: well if you have a hardware raid that is faster than the regular filesystem..
<28> srm windows always overwrite the mbr of the first disk :(
<30> Zeon: windows always replace bootloader
<6> geckosenator: then swap would be even faster, correct ;)
<28> even if you install windows on an other disk then the first one
<0> jacekowski: yep
<24> Radtoo_: I suppose
<3> ^Willie^: thats new to me
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