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<0> w00tnation: it is popular for boards to have a pseudo-hardware raid. the actual cacluations for the RAID are done by the CPU, but the device appears as a single peice of harware
<1> however
<1> emerge -pv =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r2
<1> says: [ebuild U ] dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r2 [2.3.5] -X +berkdb -bootstrap -build -doc +gdbm -ipv6 +ncurses -nocxx +readline +ssl -tcltk -ucs2 7,068 kB
<2> How do I change the timezone displayed by the date command
<3> w00tnation: unless that pci card cost $150 or more, its probably not
<1> why would this be?
<4> its like a 500$ card
<5> wide-eye, thehailo: sorry, didnt understand... should i open these ports or not?
<3> ok then its probably natively supported by kernel
<3> compile in and go
<4> maybe you're right about the motherboard one though
<6> roico I'd suggest not opening any ports at all until you have a better understanding of exactly what you're doing
<0> w00tnation: well, high end cards will usually have hardware RAID and slots for extra cache
<7> roico: that script lets anything from the fw to the net out already. you dont have to open em as they are open to begin with
<1> w00tnation, what card is that ? $500 seems like an awful lot of dough!
<3> applejack: some of the 3wares and other higher end models can get super spendy
<4> the section in the kernel for Multi-device suport (RAID and LVM) is that just for straight software raid (linux doing all the work)?
<3> applejack: especially as raid levels and memory and cpu speed and such go up
<4> I don't have it here yet, but its an 8port sata card I'm bringing home from work
<0> w00tnation: you can still use LVM with either md or hardware raid (or just normal disks)
<3> wootnation: mostly, yes. you will probably actually want LVM to manage your volumes (but not for raid purposes)
<7> w00tnation: there is prob a driver for your card in there someplace
<1> llucas, yea,... 3ware is expensive,
<3> thechris: it doesnt work with dmraid.
<3> thechris: sorry, you never said it did :)
<1> w00tnation, post your lspci -v output somewhere (rafb.net/paste)
<4> okay, so I should compile it in anyway, just for the hell of it
<0> llucas: hmm, thats odd. i would think that LVM would be abstracted from that
<0> also, what is dmraid
<3> thechris: userspace layer for software sata raid
<0> oh, ok. i guess that wouldn't fall to LVM
<0> at least until microkernels become popular
<4> http://pastebin.com/596015
<3> thechris: I boot on an nvidia nf4 board/sata controller and raid-0 on two sata-I disks. it bonnie++'s slower than md but allows me to dual boot with win on raid as well
<8> couldnt you break up compiling into larger packages and distribute it over the net?
<7> smarco: that's distcc
<8> wide-eye, yeah i mean over the internet which doesnt work afaik
<9> Ugh
<3> thechris: its also bootable by grub so you dont need a boot partition like with software raid and lvm
<9> I tried emerging dhcp but it found no servers to download it from or something, and exited after 10 minutes >_>
<7> smarco: i would expect it to be very slow, but should work, might need a vpn/ssh tunnel i guess
<4> for now I'm just gonna raid my data drives I've got 2 250GB sata and 2 160GB pata .. so I figured I'd run 2 raid 0 arrays, one off the controller card and one off the promise onboard
<0> llucas: oh, i've always used a boot partition. my servers uses it for EVMS, my desktop just has one
<7> w00tnation: i would suggest googling your card model number see what kernel module works with it...
<8> w00tnation, i just bought myself 20 new floppy disks
<4> smarco, you lost me :(
<7> mzbot: tldp promise raid
<3> thechris: yeah, but i mean that with my raid-0, when i used md raid and lvm, i needed an additional disk to physically boot from with a boot partition
<7> mzbot: google tldp promise raid
<10> wide-eye: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/ATA-RAID-HOWTO/index.html
<11> how to use 2 hostnames with postfix?
<3> thechris: whereas i only need the raid array with dmraid to hold all partitions necessary
<1> w00tnation, yea,. it's a software raid controller, the PDC20276
<4> thanks wide-eye that link will help me out quite a bit I think
<3> thechris: the data on this machine is expendable...hence my casual attitude towards raid-0 and such
<7> w00tnation: heh it's rh 7.2 based :)
<4> yeah, but still
<4> general info stuff
<3> w00tnation: its easy
<7> w00tnation: i'm sure there is a newer guide someplace
<7> mzbot: wiki promise raid
<3> emerge dmraid, dmraid -s, dmraid -ay
<10> wide-eye: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Gentoo_Install_on_Software_RAID_mirror_and_LVM2_on_top_of_RAID
<12> :(
<12> doper: i emerged ipw2200-1.0.10, added to my modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6
<1> w00tnation, the good news is that it's a 66mhz board
<12> still the same :(
<3> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_Gentoo_with_NVRAID_using_dmraid
<3> if it will work it all, you need dmraid. otherwise, you'll have to use md raid
<4> well, I guess I'll give it a shot then... I'll get the sata card working first so I can 'move over all the stuff on my current drives' and then I'll screw with the software promise card
<13> hi, is anybody here using an ati radeon 9200 card? if yes, what fps do you get with glxgears? thx!
<1> w00tnation, I didn't see the sata card in that output
<3> sorry for the confusing terms. md raid is the software raid capabilities built into the kernel (completely independent of hardware)
<14> what does a make Error: 2 mean?
<4> applejack, yeah.. its not in my machine yet.. in fact I don't even know what model it is
<8> steffenstrobel, 700 iirc
<13> smarco: what driver are you using?
<14> ??????
<7> Death_Wish: that's not the error, check further up
<8> steffenstrobel, radeon.. but .. its a 9250 not9200
<14> also error 1 thats all i seen
<14> iono shrugs
<13> smarco: i also get around 700 with 24bit depth, but i wonder isn't this too slow? shouldn't a 9200 get more fps?
<4> applejack, so then in order to get the promise software raid working I'm going to need the Multi-device support (RAID and LVM) stuff compiled in? or will the promise controller do it (just use cpu power)
<7> Death_Wish: should be a "gcc -o blah blah blah.... error: no space left on drive" something like that
<8> steffenstrobel, cant answer that
<14> oh i didn't see it thats why hmm
<3> w00t: to make the promise controller work as advertised, you need to use dmraid. honestly im not making it up
<1> w00tnation, no,. you need the MD and LVM (optional) support... the linux promise drivers do not support raid alone
<4> okay
<4> cool.. thanks for the help everyone
<15> w00tnation, dmraid - yuck
<16> hello everyone. I would appreciate some advice on gentoo installation
<17> Any hot guys in here?
<18> Hello??
<16> any gurus available ?
<15> muxx - I get by
<19> guru is vague
<7> Ma[N]da: try #gay-chat not here...
<19> :p
<3> heh the mozilla version that wasnt
<18> i want to learn how to use Linux...
<3> oh snap this isn't #gay-chat?? whoops
<7> muxx: just ask, if someone knows they will answer...
<20> Ma[N]da: then install some distro
<16> I have a laptop with a gentoo installation I made three years ago. I wiped it off and installing 2006.0 now
<19> ok muxx
<19> thats still not a question :P
<1> ohh, and w00tnation,... lemme know if you get bonnie++ results exceeding 120M/s :)
<16> the problem is that I have only a 2G partition for everything
<4> hehe, I don't find that likely.. maybe in a few months if I can leech a few more then 2 250GB drives :)
<15> muxx ... and what is everything ?
<1> that reminds me,. it took me 10 days to install gentoo on my old laptop
<21> quick poll: what's your favorite GRAPHICAL IRc client?
<16> what are the optimum installation options for such a small drive
<7> kvirc...
<22> when i switing nptl, do i need recompilin kernel-sources ???
<23> gerol: no
<19> what size is the drive muxx?
<1> 133mhz p1, 32m ram,. installed from stage1
<1> hehe
<15> muxx, do you want a GUI ?
<21> kvirc.. Hmm.. nice.
<19> haha
<19> gui is space :(
<19> frame buffer ftw
<3> muxx: could you cable up a usb drive or something similar to mount for distfiles and tmp and such during install?
<23> gerol: glibc support in userspace is all about rebuilding glibc. in kernel-space it's about using a 2.6 kernel. it's as simple as that.
<16> I need firefox, thunderbird, probably openoffice. I can possibly install large stuff on an NFS share, but later
<24> hi everyone
<23> gerol: nptl support, I mean
<16> the laptop has a CD drive, I have booted from it
<19> muxx you can do it with a 2g drive
<22> kerframil, ok thanks
<1> ion, do you really expect 893 responses ?
<19> with gui
<19> just a small swap
<19> or no swap
<19> :|
<16> thanks. which install options do I choose ?
<15> muxx, put your /usr/portage on nfs you will need the -bin of openoffice, since it needs 3.5Gb to build
<23> gerol: I simplified slightly - just a few packages in portage recognise the nptl flag (aside from glibc). so basically, once you've enabled the nptl/nptlonly flag(s) then it's a good idea to run emerge -auDNv world
<25> in a stage-1 image, can i make gentoo use gcc 3.3.x instead of 3.4.x ?
<16> at the moment it looks a bit bloated. I unchecked almost everything in the console installer and it already ate a gig
<19> yeah thats the only problem is compiling
<19> doesnt ooffice come in a bin form?
<24> applejack: well it's up to them.....anyway I got one already so I'm happy with...:)
<7> nvrpunk: yes, most of what muxx wants does
<23> mtu: echo ">=sys-devel/gcc-3.4" >> /etc/portage/package.mask
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