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<0> Kovecses, me eother thats why im tryin out new stuff like ratpioson
<1> gl***-eye - the idea would be to get any KDE stuff out of the way.
<2> mciann: yeah, thats a good idea, i'll do that as soon as i'm done with this emerge
<3> Of cource I got POrtage cache stuck at 52% in another window competing for attention....
<4> [arcane], oh thats what ratpoison is
<0> yeah i wanted to try ion but couldnt get it
<0> i wanted kahaki but its unmaintained now
<4> try windowmaker
<4> thats pretty cool
<2> [arcane]: i was on the development team for kahakai
<0> gl***-eye really i liked the way it looked
<2> i liked the scripting quite a bit
<2> but the codebase was bloated
<2> really bloated
<0> Kovecses, but WM is so ugly
<3> I wonder what software has not a bloated source?



<2> ok, off to try non-kde
<5> yea Windowmaker is nice
<4> [arcane], really i didnt think so
<0> like the retarted child of kde and gnome
<0> Kovecses, ill try it
<0> Kovecses, but is it easy to use ?
<5> no matter what i try i always end up back with fluxbox
<6> is light-httpd (or whaterever its called) easy to install - to replace apache...and will it support the gallery application...my box is a bit underpowered so thinking of dropping apache if poss?
<4> [arcane], its not worth is developement is dead
<5> [arcane]: yea fairly easy, menus for most settings built in
<7> hi
<0> DIA i wish i could get flux to loook like the sceen shots i see
<3> KDE is really slow nowadays, I wonder what its doing.... I'm in hardware upgrade cycle hell to keep it going fast enough... In fact that's why I switched to gentoo from SuSE, so I can optimize to starup kde faster.
<7> is it ok to mix ~arch and arch??
<0> man all the stuff i wanna try is dead
<5> [arcane]: you can just takes a lotta time :)
<1> harlequin516 - running 18,000 daemons.
<7> harlequin516: the "how to fly with gentoo" howto is great, isnt'it :)
<4> [arcane], its really not too hard
<0> Kovecses, WM not too hard
<4> well im emerging xfce4 now... icewm just isnt doing it for me
<4> [arcane], no making flux ***y
<3> 18,000 daemons?? What's that mean, I'm unaware of this reference?
<0> ooo
<0> xfce4 just doesnt do it for me
<2> mciann: ok, it works outside of kde
<1> harlequin516 - my sarcastic response to your KDE question. :)
<2> dang
<4> i love xfce4 themes
<8> [arcane]: fluxbox!
<1> ding
<8> yeah, xfce-dusk is nice.
<1> harlequin516 - see what I mean
<4> yes fluxbox is always a good choice..... like sam adams
<8> I use it on my gtk apps in fluxbox.
<0> everyone says flux maybe i should acctually give it a chance
<8> makes for a nice combo.
<4> [arcane], yes you should
<1> gl***-eye - well, now you know where to look
<1> gl***-eye - this is where my knowledge ends. Look for a runaway process trying to manage the CD burner.
<4> fluxbox is still my fav.... but i like to play around
<5> flux with idesk if you want icons, and the icons from gentoo are really nice
<0> i thought openbox would be nice but boy what a nightmare
<7> I want to emerge world, but it wants to emerge kde-3.4.3. Now I have kde-3.5.1. It wants to install 3.4.3 in a different slot :( what should I do? Here is the log of "emerge -uDNp world": http://pastebin.com/595898
<9> uh-oh
<7> so is it good to mix ~arch and arch?
<10> what do I have to emerge to get ifconfig installed?
<0> DIA when im done emerging flux you gotta tell me how to use idesk properly
<11> if i want to use the dev version of gentoo all i have to do is changing the profile or are there other stuff i should do?
<8> [arcane]: read the gentoo fluxbox guide.
<0> the wiki
<7> and it wants to downgrade many apps :((
<5> [arcane]: ok i aint no expert but i got icons :)
<4> idesk is easy
<4> and is ***y
<1> stjepan - how did you get kde-3.5.1 - did you unmask it in /etc/portage/package.keywords?
<8> [arcane]: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/fluxbox-config.xml && fluxbox-wiki.com
<5> Flux ***umes nothing and leaves all choices up to the user
<1> Is there still a monolithic 3.5.1 build, or is it all metas now?
<4> mciann, i think there is still monolithic



<4> mciann, but im not sure
<0> ok will do emerging flux now
<0> i like flux cause its fast
<12> when i hit install on the 2006.0 livecd, does it usually take a couple of minutes before anything happens?
<13> what group does a user need to be in to run 'ifconfig'?
<14> [arcane], you will never guess who i partied with tonight...
<12> so far it just said "Livecd root p***word set." and its just sitting
<4> Greves, the gui installer is buggy
<0> End3r, whoo
<1> w00tnation - I think you have to be root
<5> hmm my other box is getting lazy, it sends all code to my wks to be compiled and does none itself.
<12> Kovecses... so what should i do?
<14> [arcane], Dr. Dre, Jerry Rice, and LL Cool J
<1> w00tnation - yeah, wheel can't do it.
<4> Greves, there is another tab.... of details
<11> is there a difference between using the dev profile and using the ~x86 as an accepted keyword?
<12> output... doesn't show anything
<0> End3r lol playing Madden 06
<0> jk
<14> no
<14> here
<14> on my beach
<14> IRL
<4> aFlag, well i know the dev profile will emerge newer kernels
<15> w00tnation, anyone can run it
<14> i was like OMFG
<0> End3r ooo kool i no a celeb now lol
<0> *no = know
<13> so I should just change the permissions?
<16> Hey, all.
<1> applejack's right - it's a path issue.
<0> Excelsior what jk
<15> w00tnation, it's in /sbin/
<14> i just left jerry rice, we all ate dinner at the waffle house
<16> I am having a bit of a problem, I took my Gentoo computer to a LAN and lilo kind of "loads"
<13> ahh
<13> thx applejack
<14> drunk as **** too =]
<16> but I hit enter to load gentoo, and it makes weird *** screens
<0> mmm waffles
<14> we had burgers :P
<4> Dre!
<7> mcian, yes, I unmasked it in /etc/portage/package.keywords
<14> goddamn i love my town
<4> did you get shot?
<16> I have no idea why, but I'd like to debug... and I don't have the cd with me
<0> Excelsior, uhh what you gotta be more precise
<4> lol /jk
<14> i have met so many stars it isnt funny LoL
<17> hey
<7> mciann: so what to do? Is it a good idea to use everything ~arch?
<16> [arcane] it says Something about the kernel being too big
<16> or it did before
<17> if i upgrade gcc do i have to recompile my whole system?
<16> Now it just gives the lilo screen again
<16> At 10 swecond countdown and freezes
<14> anywho
<16> Sometimes gives weird artifacts
<14> i gotta work in the morning
<4> Excelsior, lilo .... use grub
<14> so i am going to go p*** out
<1> stjepan - I stay away from allowing ~arch for everything.
<16> Kovecses, thanks, that doesn't help at all.
<0> Excelsior, hmm did you upgrade recently
<14> btw, his superbowl ring was ****ing huge
<16> [arcane]: no, I didn't make an changes to anything
<16> Which is weird.
<1> I'll unmask specific packages if I want them - but only if I have a VERY good reason.
<0> End3r, kool have a great mornig/night lol
<4> End3r, should have stole it
<14> LoL
<17> if i upgrade gcc do i have to recompile my whole system? :P
<0> yeah pull a jack move


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